Re: master's mail backlog and upgrade time

2005-11-21 Thread James Troup
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Six days ago I discovered that one of the Debian system > administrators had made a deliberate and highly unusual > configuration change which predictably broke mail from or via master > to: Err, no. Mail was _already_ bouncing, but after reaching the re

Re: When will bash 2.01 be packaged?

1997-06-17 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) writes: > > Guy Maor is the current maintainer of the "bash" package. However, > > he told us that he is offline for about 4 weeks. So I think > > someone else should grab it and upload a non-maintainer (interim) > > release. > > Is that necessary just to work round

Re: Problem: bash 2.01 dumps core!

1997-06-21 Thread James Troup
"Christian Hudon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I hit a small problem while installing packages from > Incoming... Bash now dumps core on startup. And one of the > interesting side effects of this is that I can't install/remove > packages anymore: I suspect the problem was when you installed the

Re: [klee@mit.edu: Bug#10795: makefiles for nethack are i386-specific]

1997-06-23 Thread James Troup
Paul Haggart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Okay, what's the recommended solution for this .. other than porting > nethack over to use libc6 (which can't be done at the moment because > of the lack of a libc6 xpm library). How does one detect the > architecture of the machine being used? Cut and

Re: libreadlineg2 missing

1997-06-23 Thread James Troup
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How on earth is it possible to get packages depending on > libreadlineg2 into hamm when there is no package libreadlineg2 in > the archive or in Incoming? I removed libreadlineg2 and all other bash_2.01-0 related files from Incoming/ after they appeare

Re: dc and bc in Important?

1997-06-24 Thread James Troup
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It seems to me that dc and bc aren't vital to the workings of a > system (when I deselect them, dselect doesn't warn about any > dependencies), yet they are in Important. Why? Because they match the first definition of Important in Policy (see below).

Re: Policy wrt Important (was Re: dc and bc in Important?)

1997-06-25 Thread James Troup
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > By the current definition of Important: > * Sendmail should be there instead of smail since people expect >sendmail People expect a mailer. Debian's default mailer is exim^H^H^H^Hsmail; that's a deliberate decision to override the commonly expected

Re: be careful with Replaces, please

1997-12-02 Thread James Troup
Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > BTW, is there a particular reason that e2fsprogs got renamed to > > e2fsprogsg? This seems to be the biggest chance to completely > > screw over someone's system in all of Debian now. > > Yes: e2fsprogs used to contain shared libs, on which dump and qu

Re: master's Incoming and 2.0 release date

1997-12-04 Thread James Troup
"Eloy A. Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I know Guy is having problems with his Internet connection but > wouldn't it be nice if we had more people taking care of Incoming? Guy is back in some form, at least he just dealt with a whole host of bugs filed against ftp.debian.org. Martin and I

Re: predepends on libc6?

1997-12-06 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Braakman) writes: > However, chapter 12 of the packaging manual says: > > Secondly, your package should include the symlink that ldconfig > would create for the shared libraries. > > and: > > If you do the above your package does not need to call ldconfig in > its

Re: predepends on libc6?

1997-12-06 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Braakman) writes: > > The packaging manual is wrong; this is a long standing bug. > > Can you explain, or refer to a bug number that explains it? No. I have neither the time nor the inclination to trawl through the hundreds of bugs filed against dpkg. > It's not very

Re: predepends on libc6?

1997-12-07 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Braakman) writes: > > Take a look at the postinsts for every package with a shared > > library. > > I did. But why assume they are correct? Someone reports a bug and > says "package should run ldconfig", maintainer says "okey I'll do > that". I maintain and have done

Re: predepends on libc6?

1997-12-07 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Braakman) writes: > So why did you add the call to ldconfig? Because it's necessary. Duh. As I say, try removing it from libreadline2's postinst. Why do you think the upgrade of bo -> hamm is still so problematic? It's because we don't have a method for selective im

Re: Midnight Commander orphaned?

1997-12-07 Thread James Troup
Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If nobody objects (i've cc'ed this message to the original > maintainer "Fernando Alegre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>") i'd happily like > to take over maintenance of this package. Do you have a libc6 setup? A package with a maintainer who can't do uploads for un

Re: predepends on libc6?

1997-12-09 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: [ Deleted the part where the doubters once again fail to bother to yprove that ldconfig isn't necessary (Hint: the onus isn't on me; I don't care anymore, I *know* the policy manual is wrong, if you think otherwise, do something about it, either way I'm n

Re: Amiga port of Debian

1997-12-11 Thread James Troup
Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I (and a couple of friends) are using Debian on a A1200 without > prob, so I guess that it's 'finnished'... :) It most certainly is not. -- James -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Tro

Re: Amiga port of Debian

1997-12-12 Thread James Troup
Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It most certainly is not. > > Hmmm? What's missing then, since we are running a perfectly working > 1.2.17 system... Any sane Amiga installation disks; a non-buggy-pseudo-1.3 base set. And as of 12/12/1997, 246 packages have yet to be compiled an

Re: Is "cp -a" allowed in debian/rules?

1997-12-12 Thread James Troup
Douglas Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But consider the recent discussion of porting dpkg to other systems. > If you were using dpkg on Solaris or HP-UX or ... you may not be > able to count on cp understanding the -a flag. Fooblah. Debian is about systems integration; GNU fileutils is an E

Re: unstripped stuff in /usr/lib

1997-12-13 Thread James Troup
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not sure if we should treat static libraries the same way, since > some people might need the symbols for debugging. Could someone > comment on that? Static libraries should be stripped with --strip-debug. If you want stuff with debug symbols p

Re: ppp & pam (was: Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts')

1997-12-16 Thread James Troup
[ Brokenly-long lines wrapped ] Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ppp is needed for doing an install from the internet via a dialup > link. PAM is not needed until you want people to log into the > system, so libpam is a waste of space on the install disks. > > I'm not certain it's wort

Re: Questions about emacs20 file system layout.

1997-12-16 Thread James Troup
"Adam P. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > BTW, are .elc files arch-dependant or arch-indep? I've always > wondered about this. They're architecture independent. -- James -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [

["Gonzalo A. Diethelm" ] Re: Moving topics from debian-private (was Re: SPI money out)

1997-12-16 Thread James Troup
--- Start of forwarded message --- Resent-Date: 16 Dec 1997 22:24:45 - Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:38:16 -0300 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Gonzalo A. Diethelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Debian developers l

Re: ["Gonzalo A. Diethelm" ] Re: Moving topics from debian-private (was Re: SPI money out)

1997-12-17 Thread James Troup
Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When doing 'g'roup reply in elm, the e-mail of the person goes into > the "To:" header and list address (along with all other thread > participant's adresses) to "Cc:" header. So, umm, fix elm? -- James -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-m

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1997-12-17 Thread James Troup
Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is part of an email exchange Sven and I had. Simply put, I put > in a new alpha binary of dpkg-1.4.0.19 that represented nothing but > a recompile to pick up new libg++, ncurses, etc. Sven suggested > that this warranted a non-maintainer-rel

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1997-12-17 Thread James Troup
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is that way because our package system does not allow several > binary packages for the same source package. But it should. [...] > Again this is a limitation of our current source|binary packaging > scheme. Does not mean it has to be that way.

Re: ppp & pam (was: Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts')

1997-12-18 Thread James Troup
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I thought that, until I noticed that libpam depends upon > > libpam-util, which depends upon libpwdb0, which together come to > > about 180k compressed. > > I think you should file a bug report against libpam so it doesn't > depend on libpam-util. I don

gone for a week

1997-12-20 Thread James Troup
Hi, I'm going home for a week or more, if any serious[1] bugs in my packages come up, please feel free to do non-maintainer uploads of them. Happy Christmas and all that larky. [1] And, please, I do mean serious, i.e. not whether /x/y/z should or shouldn't be a conffile. -- James -- TO UNSUB

Re: debian 2.0 - any dates?

1997-12-31 Thread James Troup
"Boris D. Beletsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If not, shouldn't we schedule one already. What are we waiting for? Gee, I dunno, maybe it's, at least in part, for the developers who still haven't upgraded their packages to libc6, despite it being available since April. -- James - xinted anyo

Re: debian 2.0 - any dates?

1998-01-01 Thread James Troup
"Boris D. Beletsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Gee, I dunno, maybe it's, at least in part, for the developers who > > still haven't upgraded their packages to libc6, despite it being > > available since April. > > It will be available in the next few days, Like Jed was going to be done "thi

Re: debian 2.0 - any dates?

1998-01-01 Thread James Troup
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Oh really? What about such inessentials and trivialities such as > > our default MTA? > > Well... Please take a look at > ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/soenke/debian-beta/ and > test the smail inside. Wouldn't that be better tested if it w

Re: Intent to package mrtg & nntpcache...

1998-01-03 Thread James Troup
Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I've missed something, someone please let me know. from hamm/contrib/Packages: Package: mrtg Version: 2.5.1-1 Priority: extra Section: contrib/net Maintainer: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Depends: libc6, libgd1g, perl (>= 5.003) Recommends: h

Re: Question/request concerning master

1998-01-06 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Heiko, can dupload be changed to upload all files with one "scp" > when using SSH to upload? See #13383. -- James -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: What warrants a non-maintainer release number?

1998-01-06 Thread James Troup
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >``Whenever the source package is changed WRT to the last uploaded >version, its version number has to be incremented. In addition, >if the source package is not changed but the binary package >changed (because it has been recompiled in

Re: Re^2: uploaded dhelp (i386 source)

1998-01-06 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) writes: > Am 05.01.98 schrieb leutloff # sundancer.oche.de ... > > > Btw.: Shouldn't we switch the priority for bug to a higher one, > > i.e. standard or essential!? It's a small but very useful program > > that Definitely not essential. It by no means matches th

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-07 Thread James Troup
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > cd /debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386 Grr. cd /debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture) -- James - Hardcoded-i[345]86 detection alarm triggered -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsub

Re: dpkg's version comparison algorithm?

1998-01-09 Thread James Troup
David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why is 1.15 > 1.2 ? Because 1 = 1 and 15 is > 2; dpkg breaks the version number into chunks (in this case delimited by '.'). See verrevcmp() in lib/vercmp.c from the dpkg source for more details. > Is it necessary to fill in trailing zeroes? Yes. 20 >

Intent to package: Quinn Diff

1998-04-08 Thread James Troup
Hi, I plan on packaging up Quinn Diff despite reservations I have, because enough people have asked me to. Quinn Diff is a program for comparing the Packages files of two architectures to see what needs recompiled on the secondary architecture. See http://thor.lib.chalmers.se/~jamest/quinn-diff

Re: sleep contains crypto stuff?

1998-04-08 Thread James Troup
Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ sleep is linked with libcrypt ] > That's weird since it's in fact linked with libcrypt, but doesn't > seem to use _any_ function/symbols from this lib: Everything in shellutils is linked with libcrpyt, build it from source and see. -- James --

Re: Is the `scsh' licence DFSG compliant? Please advise.

1998-04-09 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes: > Attached is the COPYING file from `scsh-0.5.1'. May this program go > into "main"? As already stated by myself and others: no. > That would be wonderful. I would like to package `guile-scsh' as > well. It bears the similar licence. It bears the

Re: Bug#21009: rvplayer: Namespace conflict

1998-04-14 Thread James Troup
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ftp/debian/dists/frozen/contrib/binary-i386/web# dpkg -i > > netscape4_4.0-7.deb > > Selecting previously deselected package netscape4. > > (Reading database ... 61341 files and directories currently installed

Packages which are in frozen which are libc5 based (and shouldn't be)

1998-04-16 Thread James Troup
Hi, On i386, the following packages are still libc5-based or have dependencies on libc5 based packages: dotfile-1:2.2-1 Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- depends on libc5 versions of tcl/tk gnats-tk-3.104-4 Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- ditto ilu-base-2

Re: Non-maintainer release of info-3.12

1998-04-17 Thread James Troup
Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just made a non-maintainer release of info_3.12-1 as Octave now > needs a version of info that is greater or equal to 3.11. [1] You called it 3.12-1.0 but it should be 3.12-0.1. Also you'll need to ensure (-sa to dpkg-buildpackage) that the .orig

Re: elvis package

1998-04-17 Thread James Troup
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's free as it seems from the first view. The second view tells > you it's non-free, unfortunately. > > Nevertheless I'm packaging it right now. You ask Martin not to work on elvis because it's non-free but then announce you're working on the non-fr

Re: deb + tar + bzip2 suggestion

1998-04-18 Thread James Troup
Stephan Kulow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think it would be a good idea to teach tar to unpack bzip2 files > > via the -z option, just as if it would be gzip. Alternativly one > > could teach gzip to use bzip2 for .bz2 archives or teach dpkg to > > distinguish between the two. > > > > The m

Re: bzip2 for source packages?

1998-04-18 Thread James Troup
Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Might I suggest that using it for source packaging would be > appropriate, though? By recompressing things in bzip2, you lose the ability to use pristine upstream source (since the vast majority of source stills comes in .tar.gz form). Having sa

Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-18 Thread James Troup
27;t anticipate that RSN). It'll be maintained by "Igor Grobman and James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>". I know this is controversial, but quite frankly, I don't care. The current ``policy'' was invented by Christian with zero consultation (he ``thought it was alread

Re: l3 - MPEG Layer 3 encoder

1998-04-22 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) writes: > Who maintains frozen? l3 (non-free) has expired. The author > (Fraunhofer Institut IIS) has released a new version called > mp3encdemo, but this version is limited to 30s of music (so it#s not > longer useful) :(((. > > So please remove my l3 package from

Re: Intent to package moxa radius

1998-04-22 Thread James Troup
Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyway, could you explain to me how this advertising clause is so > harmful? http://www.oryxsoft.com/rms/rms-bsd-license.html> -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Intent to package moxa radius

1998-04-22 Thread James Troup
Charles Briscoe-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Urk! It's the Obnoxious BSD Advertising Clause, back to haunt us. > > Including the OBSDAC would make Moxa non-free. Say _what_? I do *not* think so. (Hint: look at glibc's copyright file) -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: Intent to package moxa radius

1998-04-23 Thread James Troup
Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am I correct that this clause doesn't make software really non-free > (DFSG definition)? Yes. To quote from the DFSG itself: | 10. Example Licenses |The "GPL", "BSD", and "Artistic" licenses are examples of licenses |that we consider

Re: 21164 must be fixed before 2.0.34 comes out!

1998-04-25 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 08:25:06AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > FWIW, I just tried it on my Debian 2.0 2.0.32 machine: > > what means FWIW ? > > For what it's worth. > > Note: there are several useful acronym lists /

Intent to package: uedit

1998-04-29 Thread James Troup
Hi, I intend to package uedit. I've always bemoaned the lack of a decent editor on Linux, but I've finally found one. For all those of you who, like me, have long detested the bloated pig that is X11, you will rejoice to know that this editor is console based. This editor bypasses the bloated,

Re: intent to take mawk and gawk

1998-04-29 Thread James Troup
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If nobody objects, I intent to take mawk and gawk. I object. I've talked with Christopher and I'm taking the packages on a temporary basis (but as the real maintainer). Christopher still wants to maintain mawk & gawk and is still around, he anticipate

Re: intent to take mawk and gawk

1998-04-29 Thread James Troup
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If nobody objects, I intent to take mawk and gawk. > > > > I object. I've talked with Christopher and I'm taking the > > packages on a temporary basis (but as the real maintainer). > > I object to taking a package in secret without announcing it h

Re: Maybe alpha should be in hamm? (was: Re: Only m68k and i386 in hamm?)

1998-04-29 Thread James Troup
Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [ ... ] ld.so doesn't apply [ ... ] Upgrade your quinn-diff :-) From 0.31's ChangeLog.main :- | Sun Apr 12 21:33:14 1998 James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | * Packages-arch-specific (ldso): exclude alpha.

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-30 Thread James Troup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK. I give. And, on the principle that if you can't beat 'em, join > 'em, I now agree with Jame Troup and Dale Scheetz and formally > declare that Policy does not govern may packages from this point on, > and shall close any policy related Bugs ASAP.

Re: debian 2.0

1998-04-30 Thread James Troup
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > - pam login doesn't use pam. passwd doesn't use pam. telnet doesn't use it. > > unless most programs are unseing pam, it's useless. Oh, foo. Integration of pam was dropped as a release goal of 2.0 because it is quite simply not tenable if you want

Re: Conflicts between developers and policy

1998-04-30 Thread James Troup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, it was gfetting frustating, what with being in the middle of > two conversations, one with Dale and James, who are of the opinion > that policy is a guideline, and not a set of rules adopted by the > project Again, please don't misrepresent my

Re: debian 2.0

1998-04-30 Thread James Troup
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Oh, foo. Integration of pam was dropped as a release goal of 2.0 > > because it is quite simply not tenable if you want to release hamm > > before 1999. You can not simply recompile core applications like > > shadow and net{base,std} with pam and "hope t

Re: Intent to package pine-src

1998-04-30 Thread James Troup
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Retrieval of source from archives is usually done "by hand" but any such > bulk retrieval should be easy to manage with a script. I take the lack of > a script to indicate the current relative lack of need. Anyone is welcome > to prove me wrong by writing

Re: Intent to package: debian-keyring

1998-04-20 Thread James Troup
[ Gratuitous Cc to maintainers who already read debian-devel removed; please respect the Reply-To ] Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It'll be maintained by "Igor Grobman and James Troup > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>". I know this

Re: Intent to package pine-src

1998-05-01 Thread James Troup
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Please think very hard about the benefits of our current system > > before advocating a replacement for it. > > The pine-src package will not replace the already existing pine > source in the "source" directory. I was not talking about pine-src, as I

Re: Intent to package pine-src

1998-05-01 Thread James Troup
[ Still not wanting to get into the discussion, honest, just making random points ] Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What is your point? The .deb packaging of source doesn't deal with > > source dependencies any better than the current source package. > > Sure it does. You put the

Re: Intent to package pine-src

1998-05-01 Thread James Troup
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > More specifically, I don't think that late in the frozen stage is > the right time to introduce a new package format requirement for > hamm. Nor do I, which is why I've been avoiding this discussion. -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Packages marked as Obsolete

1998-05-04 Thread James Troup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > *** interpre Opt blt2 2.1-6 > Superseded by blt4.2, presumably. > *** non-free Xtr ckermit 192-5 > In project/orphaned, don't know why. Seems to be missin

Re: Seeking other archs to build packages on

1998-05-07 Thread James Troup
Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Apart from that, you could also crosscompile. Uh, no. Please do not upload untested cross-compiled code. Untested stuff is the most likely to break and cross compilation is often dodgy. There are maintainers for the non-i386 architectures who will compil

Re: Seeking other archs to build packages on

1998-05-07 Thread James Troup
Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I do not believe that imlib/fnlib/E works on m68k -- correct me > anyone if I am wrong. Unless it broke recently, you are; certainly I've seen imlib based stuff work on m68k IIRC. m68k is usually the least problematic port (sparc & powerpc are using dodgy gli

Bug#22206: Some package uses psmisc without a dependency

1998-05-07 Thread James Troup
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyway, since psmisc is not essential (and this is what really > matters), it would be interesting to know which package uses killall > (if any) and where, to add the appropriate Dependency. Maintainer scripts (and most everything else) should not use k

Re: Hamm for other architectures

1998-06-02 Thread James Troup
Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now about that hard one, what are we releasing this time[?] m68k is certainly going to if I have anything to say about it. -- James ~Yawn And Walk North~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Cont

Re: Can w3-el be precompiled?

1998-06-02 Thread James Troup
[ QP brain-damage reversed ] "Rev. Joseph Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, May 28, 1998 at 01:12:25AM -0400, Gregory S. Stark wrote: > > Oh, one gotcha to watch for. If you package Custom you really > > ought to package Gnus as well and build it against the same > > version of Custo

Re: Can w3-el be precompiled?

1998-06-03 Thread James Troup
Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You can't. There is *no* way round this other than to upgrade > > gnus if you install custom. > > why not have custom conflict with older versions of gnus. Because gnus is embedded in emacs19, not a separate package; shurely you don't want custom to

Re: Intent to fix base-passwd

1998-06-03 Thread James Troup
Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > while testing the base packages I hit the critical bugs surrounding > the update-passwd binary contained in base-passwd. Uh, which critical bugs? --sanity-check now works as expected, is run by default and update-passwd is no longer run automatically

sphor (aka bugs.debian.org) going down twice due to power maintenance

2005-06-29 Thread James Troup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, A UPS upgrade is being performed this week in the machine room that houses sphor.debian.org (aka bugs.debian.org) hosted at the Oregon State University's Open Source Lab. Part of this upgrade will require 2 complete power outages for that room.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-25 Thread James Troup
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My memory is horrible, but IIRC James Troup (ie, our keymaster..) did > some similar study at the DebConf5 KSP and ended up with a list of > people whose GPG signtures he didn't trust anymore because of whatever > trick they fell fo

dak changes (names, version control, mail headers)

2006-06-11 Thread James Troup
Hi, I've just updated ftp-master.debian.org to use a new version of dak which no longer uses the silly names at all. This is something I've wanted to do for a long time now (I remember discussing it with people at least 2-3 years ago), but I never found a contiguous chunk of time to work on it

Re: Hosed potato/main/Packages...

1999-09-30 Thread James Troup
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 30 Sep 1999, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > > > Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Yeah, just uploaded some new packages which fix the typo. > > > > I just hand-edited my available file. :-) > > > > > Maybe it should be trapped by dinsta

{R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-09-30 Thread James Troup
Hi, OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (again AFAICT [I'm going by the CVS commits]), are ripping out the patented algrothims (IDEA, etc.). Unfortunately, I'm chronically busy with work and haven't had time to look into i

Re: bash package removing /bin/sh on upgrade

1999-10-01 Thread James Troup
Torsten Landschoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If somebody could come up with a better method of handling this it would be > most welcome. Don't do it (muck around with /bin/sh links). Guy made a comment in the bug report about this and AFAIK didn't do it yet in case of breakages like this. -

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread James Troup
Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 09:55 +0100 1999-10-01, Philip Hands wrote: > >James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a > >> DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread James Troup
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am pretty sure that SSH was never free software. Could you show > me the license on the version that they started with? -&<-&<-&<-&<-&< This file is part of the ssh software, Copyright (c

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-02 Thread James Troup
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > They use libssl, which begs the question why isn't libssl in non-US/non-free? Uh, because I keep forgetting. I've been meaning to do that since Guy split non-US up... I guess I'll go file a bug against ftp.debian.org. -- James

Re: whence netcomics?

2000-03-12 Thread James Troup
Roderick Schertler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anybody know what happened to netcomics? I'd been assuming it > was pulled from potato but left in woody, but I just looked and that > doesn't seem to be the case. The only normal or archived bug on it > doesn't say anything about pulling the

new-maintainer and delays (was Re: [some idiot troll who should have been ignored])

2000-09-13 Thread James Troup
"Christopher C. Chimelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Looks like quite a backlog has been created by NM being shut down > for so long. Actually, no, way less than half the current backlog are applicants from the shut down period. > But, after picking a few people to look at that are currently

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread James Troup
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 12:52:02AM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: >> On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:23:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: >> > The BTS now has "lfs" (large file support) and "ipv6" tags. >> > http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian

Re: new bug tags

2003-06-01 Thread James Troup
Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sure, but the architecture tags can be used n ot only for buildd > failures? No, that's my point, IMO they shouldn't be used _at all_ for FTBFS bugs, because they'd be useless and misleading - and if these tags are available people will try to use them

samosa (aka db.debian.org) problems

2003-07-01 Thread James Troup
Hi, As many of you will have already noticed samosa is down and has been for a while. Unfortunately the machine is in a bad way - the motherboard just beeps constantly when the machine's powered on. The local admin has taken it out of it's rack and home with him to try and fix it. However even

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-01 Thread James Troup
Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Having bugs not fixed in 4 years (3 years even with a patch > provided) Don't be such a disingenuous troll. The patch for that _wishlist_ bug has been there since April. Not for 3 years. -- James

Re: but I want the GNU versions of packages

2003-07-03 Thread James Troup
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:36:10 +0200, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 07:57:55AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: >>> So what is the single command to apt-get install all the GNU versions >>> of everything? >> >>Just create and

Re: [cjwatson@debian.org: Re: Fwd: Processing of ferret_3.0-2_i386.changes]

2003-09-22 Thread James Troup
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What didn't work about anonymous FTP? The queue daemon can no longer handle PGP 2.x keys; I don't know why and since a) the number of developers still using these kind of keys for uploads can be counted on the fingers of a mutilated hand, b) there are

update on binary upload restrictions

2007-01-24 Thread James Troup
Hi, Summary === I've done some work in dak to improve the binary upload restrictions that are currently in place to hopefully reduce some of the collateral damage that resulted from the initial implementation. Binary upload restri

packages up for adoption

2008-08-26 Thread James Troup
Hi, The following packages are up for adoption: * gawk * gdbm * gimp-dimage-color * gnupg-doc * gnus * mawk * p0f * quinn-diff * xloadimage * gawk-doc (non-free) -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: packages up for adoption

2008-08-27 Thread James Troup
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The following packages are up for adoption: Please note I said adoption, not orphaned. > * gawk > * mawk > * gawk-doc (non-free) Steve Langasek is taking these 3. > * quinn-diff Luk Claes is taking this. (Roger, I&#x

Re: some packages from incoming are not going into sid

2003-11-07 Thread James Troup
Noèl Köthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > is there any reason why packages, which are already accepted and now are > in incoming.d.o are not moving to the archives? > > for example http://incoming.debian.org/wget_1.9-1_m68k.deb is there > since 2003-11-04. > Other packages like xmule or webmin are

Re: ftpmaster accepts packages that have been rejected a few days ago

2003-11-11 Thread James Troup
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I had to wait almost three weeks to have the package REJECTED by > ftpmaster 20031023144719~jennifer~Moving to new~linux-atm_2.4.1-10_i386.changes 20031103144602~lisa~rejected~linux-atm_2.4.1-10_i386.changes Hmm, that doesn't even look like 2 weeks to me.

Re: Suspicious reply from katie

2004-10-09 Thread James Troup
Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have just uploaded another version, which resulted in receiving > the attached message. Note the NEW status, and the warning. Is this > a katie bug? Or did I do something wrong? It's a James-is-a-moron problem. I broke (read: deleted) experimental's

Re: file format for debian/copyright

2002-12-07 Thread James Troup
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 01:04:40AM +0100, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis > wrote: > > copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl may fail to > > understand that GPL is only mentioned in the copyright notice, and is not > > the type of the licen

Re: private debian pools

2002-12-08 Thread James Troup
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I looked at katie; it seemed to be a complicated and undocumented > mess that was a total overkill for my purpose (eg. I don't need a > database). That "complicated and undocumented mess" has been running the Debian archives successfully and without major i

Re: DAK (2)

2002-12-10 Thread James Troup
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I were to clean things up and make DAK easier to use for private > archives (eg. by isolating all Debian specific stuff, ideally into > a limited number *.conf files), would somebody be willing > to commit the changes to CVS? No one sane agrees to pre-co

Re: dinstall/debian-installer

2002-12-10 Thread James Troup
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - Change paths to config files in utils.py. Sigh, you don't need to do that. See /etc/katie/katie.cnf on e.g. auric. > - rose creates initial directories (actually some where missing; I can't > remember which onces were missing and which ones were misco

Re: DAK (2)

2002-12-10 Thread James Troup
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 5. What is the dsync-flist used by mkchecksums, and where can I get it > from? Google search returns nothing. http://cvs.debian.org/?cvsroot=dsync -- James

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