On Fri, 23 May 2003 11:58:45 -0300
Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website
> and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good
> initiative, but there are many others that are being
> excluded from the website.I've some ideas:
On Fri, 23 May 2003 17:33:58 -0700
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Debconf" is about Debian developers trying to meet other devels and users.
> Its about trying to make us a stronger organization. Its about hacking and
> all of the other reasons we love Debian.
>
> Treating i
On 24 May 2003 15:40:08 +0900
Masato Taruishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah, the main point of this package is to create a local ad-hoc package
> which can coexist with its official package. Escpecially, I can manage
> my temporary on-going improvement to some debian package as a debian
> package
On Sat, 24 May 2003 10:19:38 +0200
Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.debian.org/devel/, "Projects" section:
> >
> > * Debian Web Pages
> [...]
> > * Alioth: Debian GForge
> > Certainly seems that they're listed.
>
> The Debian Usability Research seems to be missing:
>
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 15:33:29 +0100
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Since we're using bug tags for such specific things now wouldn't it make
> >> sense to add per architecture tags so one can search via
> >> http://bugs.debian.org/tag:hppa
> >> for hppa related issues (not that there ar
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:02:39 +0200
Vincent Zweije <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dodging with symlinks is not really a solution, as all the files will
> actually still be in the wrong places.
I believe he meant installing them to the proper locations, and then
making symlinks from there to the "big
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:46:48 +1000 (EST)
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Now I'm wondering about it even more. IMHO `maildirmake' is _very_
> > necessary for any mail and as it seems to be only a 2-line-shell-script
> > why it isn't i
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:27:48 -0300
Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As for my own suggestion, I would say - fix the package. The diff.gz
> > exists for a reason. If you're incapable of fixing it, find somebody who
> > can (and hopefully get them to show you how they did it).
>
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:12:04 +1000 (EST)
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Capable of handling, yes, but then, so is cat.Once delivered, though,
> there's no way of getting it back out again unless you're running something
> like courier or similar.
Or Mutt, or a halfdozen other MUAs
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:04:54 -0500
Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And not only 80386 needs this - There is the Sparc64 port which would
> also benefit from this (http://www.debian.org/ports/sparc/#64bit). If we
> had support for subarchtectures, not only would the ix86 mess be able to
> b
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:53:56 -0600
Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No it doesn't. I've yet to even hear of an architecture that NetBSD runs
> > on but which Linux doesn't. They just have a different definition of
> > "architecture" than us. (ie: our "hppa" may be three or four arches to
>
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 07:57:55 +0800
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gentlemen, after I installed "Debian GNU/Linux", I found I had to take
> extra steps to get the GNU version of a program installed, as some
> other leading brand alternative was in its stead.
>
> So what is the single com
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:17:57 +0200
Karsten Merker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think ports to other kernels are generally worthwhile in and of
> > themselves, simply for cleaning up the codebase and getting rid of
> > unportable stuff.
> >
> > It's just plain old healthy is all. The previous c
On 03 Jul 2003 13:00:47 +0200
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña]
> > (For those who are not aware of this issue, please read #92810)
>
> There seem to be someone believing that standard documents should be
> treated as software. Standards are not
On 03 Jul 2003 23:45:56 -0500
Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 15:19, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
> > Cameron Patrick wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 02:36:48PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > | Well, once you folks have come up with a definition of "software",
On Sun Jul 06, 04:58pm -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 04:31:22PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:13:23PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> > > Would this work just as well?
> > > [example without distribution and urgency]
> >
> > It would wo
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:11:13 +0200
Sebastian Rittau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:36:22PM +1000, Anand Kumria wrote:
>
> > General
> > Debian
> > 1 project
> >10 architectures
> > 100 countries
> > 1000 maintainers
> > 1 packages
> >
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:48:48 +1200
Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:46:47AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le mar 08/07/2003 ? 01:15, Matt Zimmerman a ?crit :
> > > > All that's missing is an automatic debconf notice entry for each NEWS
> > > > item.
> > > >
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 10:31:51 +0200
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For sarge we have two options for the default MTA in base:
>
> a. replace exim with exim4
> b. no MTA installed by default, add a MTA task
>
> So do we want there to be a MTA by default?
I would opt for a) personally. Exim
(That's a really long recipient list - does this need only go to
reiserfs-list@namesys.com and [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:45:09 +0400
Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it now prints two random credits rather than all of them, and credits
> for the developers are in place. s
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:47:06 +0100
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Harris has expressed an interest in this job, and I've talked to
> him about it on IRC, so if he still wants it he's welcome. If anyone
> else is interested, then contact me: a small team would be a good idea
> anywa
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 05:42:06 +0800
Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bdale> ... I announced a group subscription to lwn.net for Debian
> Bdale> developers, sponsored by HP...
>
> Debian may be seen as supporting non-disclosure conditions /
> protected proprietary information / trade secret
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:55:07 -0400
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This clause has a direct effect on all users,
> restricting the use of e.g. encrypted filesystems.
>
> That's a new one on me. I don't think the GFDL restricts
> the use of encrypted filesystems.
I have ment
Sorry folks, I CC'd: -devel instead of -legal. God I hate Reply-To:s :)
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:03:59 -0400
David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:55:07 -0400
> Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This clause has
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:11:37 +1000
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, this is driving me bananas. I go to download the latest
> unstable packages, only to find that apt-get update
> has just retrieved a cached copy of the Packages file that
> (in some cases) can be a month old.
I've seen s
On 05 Oct 2003 13:13:55 +0200
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is no point for me working on those bugs if the patches will
> just rod in the bts or be thrown out so as not to differ from
> upstream. As I said before I won't work on the debian package again
> without an assur
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:04:23 -0400
Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Description : gtk/gnome client for masqdialer server
>
> How about "client for masqdialer"?
>
> >
> > From the freshmeat description:
> > GMasqdialer provides a GNOME/GTK client for the Masqdialer system. The
>
>
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 00:02:47 -0400
Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David B Harris wrote:
>
> > As much as you may dislike it, people care about toolkit. I don't
> > understand the witch-hunt to remove references to such things.
>
> Short description is a
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:44:57 -0400
David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Obviously if the short description is too long, something needs to go -
> and in that case, certainly not mentioning the toolkit is reasonable.
> However, in this particular case ("gtk/gnome c
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 02:18:00 +0100
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Uid 31 is reserved forever (speaking as the base-passwd maintainer), but
> new installations of postgresql should have a uid in the system range,
> namely 100-999, as created by 'adduser --system'. See the changelog for
>
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:12:52 -0500
Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have discussed this sub-project extensively at Voxel, and we are
> willing to commit to seeing this idea through - in a manner that allows
> the Debian community to benefit from resources that we put into it. We
> are
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:45:35 -0800
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am still negotiating with the large industry group that approached me
> about this project. When the price tag is north of $1M, it takes time.
> If that works out, they would fund 3-5 engineers full-time, plus myself
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 06:27:12 +1100
Zenaan Harkness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Any thoughts on that? Anybody from HP or IBM here want to weigh in?
>
> My primary thought wrt making money from Free Software - make as much as
> we possibly can - at least that's my goal, so that I can provide for
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:53:02 -0800
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Are you still on good terms with some people at HP?
> >
> Yes. Has anyone discussed this with Bdale?
He hasn't participated in the thread yet.
> >I wouldn't mind getting paid well for the work
> >I do, but that's a rari
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:49:20 -0600
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First of all. This is obviously not a Debian project (since it is not
> operating within the Debian framework.) I don't see why this then
> necessitates over a dozen threads on debian-devel -- AND why it gets to
> call it
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 03:18:53 +
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> >But an ssh key on removable media is not vulnerable to keysniffing
> >alone, where a password is.
>
> If such behaviour becomes common, the keysniffers will simply copy
> anything that looks li
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:38:25 -0500
Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:37, David B Harris wrote:
> > I've also yet to see anybody post their IP address, userid, and
> > password for their publicly-accessible servers to a public mailing list
>
k (have more than one keyword), it meets the original poster's
request.
--
________
\ David B. Harris, Systems administrator | http://www.terrabox.c
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 12:42:20 -0400
Elie Rosenblum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I also don't see a bug submitted with this. If you're submitting
> NMU's, you sure as hell better be submitting bugs with patches (or
> the fact that no patch is required other than rebuilding with an
> updated system).
>
Hey there :)
I'm starting a new thread about people switching to other distributions.
Why? Because I'd rather we start first with an information-gathering
thread.
I'm shortly going to relate my first-hand knowledge of why people have
switched from Debian, to Gentoo. Everybody else who has any fir
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 15:58:51 -0500
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The comparison is only fair with organizations that *want* you do do
> so(so not redhat, probably not openbsd, or mandrake, or others whose
> principal developers try to sell cds).
Strictly speaking, given the ISO mirroring
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 23:27:33 +1300
Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Given the ISO mirroring situation"? Care to elucidate?
There being an order of magnitude more package mirrors than ISO mirrors.
Completely ignoring the web site organisation, mind you, it's been
common for a long time f
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 16:06:40 -0500
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem with the net installs isos is mainly that they are
> unofficial and there are several varying cd's produced by different
> folks, and of varying quality (though quality is overall good; I've
> used them happily in
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:55:35 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sami Haahtinen) wrote:
> In the past the only thing that stopped me from doing a build of my
> own from the sources was that debian missed libical.. and now that
> there appears to be libical-dev, i can't see any reason why not
> package it..
Ye
On 04 Dec 2002 12:55:50 -0500
Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://people.debian.org/~walters/descriptions.html
Thanks.
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On 04 Dec 2002 12:55:50 -0500
Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://people.debian.org/~walters/descriptions.html
I do have some differences of opinion, though. It's sad, but there are a
getting to be a fairly large number of DDs who are "attention grabbers".
Just a few days ago, I saw
On 04 Dec 2002 19:19:38 +
Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In correct English grammar and typography the space after a full stop
> ("period" in Merkin) is supposed to be a wider space then that between
> words and after commas and suchlike.
Ahh, allright, so there's still reaso
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:33:35 -0800
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't see any reason why package descriptions shouldn't be presented
> in variable-width fonts. The right margin might look a bit ragged
> (assuming the program preserves line breaks, which is probably a good
> idea to a
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:13:57 +0100
Michael Piefel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Line breaks already aren't preserved, and there already exist a very
> specific set of rules for that. Look into your documentation, and have
> a look at dselect.
I already have example applications which don't preserve
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:59:09 +0100
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a good search interface in our package interface UIs (good search !=
> search by words).
... as opposed to searching based on the contents of people's minds? :)
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:51:03 +0100
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is a bad practice to repeat the package name as the first word in
> the long description.
Why is that again?
> Also the URL does not belong into the description but should be
> placed in the debian/copyright file
On Fri Apr 11, 11:47am +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> * Package name: exim-mysql
> Version : 3.36
>
> I already packaged with one (exim compiled with mysql and tls support).
> I needed it personally, with the provided debian exim package a
> recompile is necessary to use a mysql backen
On Fri Apr 11, 02:25pm +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/
Ack, sorry, I didn't realise you guys were uploading to experimental now
:)
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On Fri Apr 18, 11:15am -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> Perhaps I've been overly strong with the rhetoric. Let me give two
> realistic scenarios where this "manage foo with debconf?" fails.
I like your two real-world examples, and I'd like to present a third.
3) Impatient but advanced user
Someb
Apologies for starting a new thread, I accidentally replied to Colin
privately, and instead of re-writing the email, I simply forwarded it.
Bad clal :)
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On Fri Apr 18, 12:54pm -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> On 18 Apr 2003 11:55:09 -0400,
> >> Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > So, opinions? Yeah, it's kind of gross. But the way things are
> > now is far worse.
>
> As long as /etc/conffiles/managed, /etc/conffiles/unmana
On Fri Apr 18, 05:28pm -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > 1) Package has a configuration file which can (optionally) be
> > managed
> >debconf/postinst
>
> This is already the way things are now; a package doesn't have to do
> anything special to create configuration files in its postinst.
Yeah,
On Fri Apr 18, 07:06pm -0400, David B Harris wrote:
> I'm thinking in the "may I upgrade your configuration file?" question,
> have the options I mentioned before ("no", "yes", "always-no").
>
> How's that sound? It's unobtrusiv
On Fri Apr 18, 06:37pm -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> If you use ucf like mechanisms, and you acpet the first
> debconf generated file, then you will never be asked to over write
> your file -- since the md5sum of the installed file shall match the
> previous maintainer version. Bingo, w
On Sat Apr 19, 10:22am +1000, Brian May wrote:
> Any ideas?
Share an initscript between them, if that's possible?
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On Sat Apr 19, 11:18am -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 19-Apr-03, 06:47 (CDT), Steve Kowalik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 7:22 pm, Saturday, April 19 2003, Denis Barbier mumbled:
> > > I do not understand exactly what is good and bad use of debconf.
> > > For instance all questions asked
On Mon Apr 21, 10:05am -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 19-Apr-03, 11:44 (CDT), David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > From debconf-devel(8): "low: Very trivial items that have defaults that
> > will work in the vast majority of cases; oinly contro
On Wed Apr 23, 09:35pm +0200, Wilmer van der Gaast wrote:
> Bug 183186 seems to be stopping irss-text 0.8.6 from entering Sarge, but
> IMHO the bug is not quite release critical. Botti is just a small part
> of irssi, not used by 90% of the package users (at least, I think so).
> (Maybe it should b
On Sat Apr 26, 07:36pm +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> * The /etc/init.d/ scripts would need to add "need otherscript" (and
> sometimes "provide something"). As I think it is a very bad idea to edit
> these scripts in our post-install (and try to reedit them in
> pre-remove)) one would have to fi
To quote Aaron Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> I think in principle glib may be a good idea, but it is overdone.
I think I disagree. Look down the road five or ten years. Maybe at that
point, there will be a good reason for gint to be different from the
standard C int, but yet backwards-compatible
Hello there :) I'm looking to set up a local Debian mirror(for private
LAN only, until we get more bandwidth), but only of the Sid/i386
distribution. Now, anonftpsync seems pretty good, but I can't get it to
work properly. I've gotten it to --exclude the proper things, but,
unfortunatly, dists/sid/
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:40:32 -0500,?f(
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:)
q> On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 08:51:26PM +0200, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > Since your organization is the official authority for maitaining and
> > ISO country codes, I extensively used your page
> > http://www.din.d
On 21 Dec 2001 19:57:43 -0800,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) wrote:
> Does this include any game levels?
>
> If it doesn't include any levels that a person can play, then it only
> belongs in contrib.
Only the engine has been GPL'd; all the artwork is still copyright Id
Software. The
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 14:37:48 +0100,
Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There's no reason why the engine itself can't be included in Debian,
> > as far as I'm concerned. It doesn't absolutely *have* to have game
> > data, to
>
> But thats is an argument for putting all the stuff in cont
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 00:44:39 +1100,
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 08:35:34AM -0500, David B Harris wrote:
> > Come on ... this is a cool-factor thing, at least partially :)
> > Having Quake II source in Debian would be pretty spiffy, i
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 21:58:34 +0100
"Tom Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running debian potato right now. I want to upgrade it to Debian
> Woody, but I don't have a free internet connection. Can I update my
> potato by burning a cd on school. And Install it on my machine at
> home? I can't
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:56:58 +0100
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it would be possible, you know. an RPM that basically substitutes
> every installed RPM by the corresponding DEB. that would rock ;)
Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;)
But it would be feasible to pac
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:18:41 +0100
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ps: please don't cc me on list responses.
Yeah, my apologies. Hit the wrong keybinding :)
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 01:03:37 +0100
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, what you're suggesting isn't really feasible ;)
>
> Someone actually did this a couple of years ago so it is feasible.
Well, I'm kind of thinking he meant an automated procedure.
To do a "real" upgrade, lots
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