A localisation success: French po-debconf translations briefly reached a full "virtual" 100%

2004-10-27 Thread Christian Perrier
During a whole day, between dinstall runs of Sunday Oct. 24th and Monday Oct. 25th, all Debian packages which use debconf with gettext support (often referred as "po-debconf") for their configuration step had either a complete French translation or a complete translation waiting in the Bug Trackin

Re: A localisation success: French po-debconf translations briefly reached a full "virtual" 100%

2004-10-27 Thread Christian Perrier
> > Again, please make your best for requesting translation updates on > > debian-i18n@lists.debian.org when introducing new templates to your > > packages or when you change some other internationalised material. > > Yo! > > Jujst wondering: hor much of this is automated, and how much do I need

mozilla-*-locale-* packages?

2004-11-05 Thread Christian Perrier
>From a thread in -devel, dated September, after an ITP for Swedish locale files for Mozilla stuff... Quoting Alexander Sack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > >I agree too. Actually, it makes more sense if we do a single package and > >integrate there mechanisms to

Debconf Templates Style Guide now part 6.5.2 of Developers Reference

2004-11-09 Thread Christian Perrier
The document formerly known as the "Debconf Templates Style Guide", or DTSG, which I already publicised from time to time, is now part of the Developer's Reference in the Best Packaging Practice section. This document I wrote several months ago, has been rewiewed by Joey Hess and Denis Barbier and

Re: mozilla-firefox-locale package with all language translations

2004-11-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Cesar Martinez Izquierdo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I've just uploaded a new version (1.0-3) that generates separate binary > packages for each language. This is great news. Thus you mean that in the future, as soon as a language is added upstream, we will get a new Debian binary package for

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Fernanda Giroleti Weiden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi all, > I read all the thread and I noted you are forgeting a main problem about > this package. In my point of view: > > First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian > in which you have pictures of nude women is V

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Packages can hurt feelings, yes. vi hurts mine. The bible > hurts other peoples. purity-off also hurt a lot of peoples > feelings. Can't please everyone. There are over 15k packages in > debian. Some of them surely hurt the sensibilities of

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joerg Wendland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Go, install bible-kjv. Read it until you find the first offensive > passage that hurts the feelings of several women. Won't take you long... If this is meant at proving me that the bible is sexist, you do not need to convince anyone...at least not my

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Allan Sandfeld Jensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > LOL, the package is no more sexist than it is racist for only showing a > person Well, I gave you my opinion. You're free of not agreeing with it. Playing the Monty Python argument course won't help us, though. ITP's are, in my interpretati

Re: debconf temlate encoding

2004-12-04 Thread Christian Perrier
(CC'ing -i18n) > > Are we moving to UTF-8 for sarge? > > > AFAIK most parts (especially deconf) are UTF-8 ready, so lets do this > also for debconf templates. Yes. > > > Is there any guideline for which encoding to use for po files for > > debconf. > > > I have read on a Debian web-site (

Re: Is Debian a common carrier? Was: package rejection

2004-12-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > very strict regarding anything regarding Nazism. s/Nazism/Crimes against Mankind (or whatever it should be properly called in English...original version is "apologie de crimes contre l'humanité")

A few Debian packages use "cz" for lang code name for Czech

2004-12-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Hello, I just discovered that 4 Debian packages incorrectly use "cz" for the language code for Czech: http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/po-debconf/cz (of course, the correct code is "cs") I reported a bug against each of those, but wanted to let you be aware of that. I think you need to check what

Some advices about debconf i18n (was: Re: Help needed with debconf)

2004-12-16 Thread Christian Perrier
A bit out of topic and not helpful for your main problem, but please find a little advice about the templates themselves... First of all, please make them translatable. man po-debconf will give you the needed information, but it's basically a matter of prepending Choices and Description with "_"

Re: Problems to upload

2004-12-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > But what me *really* concerns is why dput and dupload failed in the > first place. Especially the hint to "PASSIV MODE" smells like something > has changed to the situation before. I do not know something about > passive mode but I'm afraid somebody

Re: Happy new year 2003

2005-01-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jean-Luc Picard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > yes, debian is still 2 years late to any other distro. Flame answer sent in private mail, in French, which makes me easier to share my feelings about the consideration the above mail shows towards a volunteer work.

Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-08 Thread Christian Perrier
> A 6-month period honestly doesn't allow us much time for new development > anyway. If all we wanted was a point release of sarge, that'd be fine; but > I think most people would like to see etch be an improvement over sarge in > more respects than just hardware driver count, and we have to be re

Bug#289416: general: Typo's in dutch messages for dpkg and cat(libc?)

2005-01-09 Thread Christian Perrier
reassign 289416 coreutils tags 289416 l10n thanks Quoting Rene van Valkenburg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: general > Severity: minor > > > Running: su -c "apt-get --purge remove hello" > Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar > Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd... Klaar > De volgende pakket

Re: non-ftp way to upload packages

2005-02-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Yes, scp to gluck (or other debian machine) and use dupload/dput from > > there. > > Or just upload into glucks delayed queue into day 0. Which is the method I personnaly use since the Nov. 2003 compromise... IMHO, by far the easiest and simplest

Who could be able to help SW vendors to support Debian?

2005-02-01 Thread Christian Perrier
During the Solutions Linux expo in Paris, the DD's present at the Debian booth have been approached by a representative from Trend Micro Corp. who develops and sells security software (the most well known being probably a virus scanning software and such similar software suites). We ended with a v

Re: Who could be able to help SW vendors to support Debian?

2005-02-01 Thread Christian Perrier
> > Would any people around have pointers which could be given to such > > people ? Do we already have an entry point for such technical issues > > as proprietary SW vendors needing technical information about the way > > to support Debian ? > > It isn't clear to me what sort of compatibility iss

Re: Who could be able to help SW vendors to support Debian?

2005-02-01 Thread Christian Perrier
> I don't like to pass the buck, yet I can't see a way that Debian, as > it is can support them directly. Perhaps they ought to look to the I think they don't need support from Debian. They just need to know where to discuss the issues they are concerned with. In understand this is not really a

Babelbox documentation is available

2005-02-13 Thread Christian Perrier
(reply to -devel unless answering on a topic more appropriate to one of the other lists) Several people have heard of my "Babelbox" demo machine which was featured for the first time at Solutions Linux expo in Paris. This demo machine is a Debian Installer demo which runs over and over, changing

Re: Verify debianhttp://www.perrier.eu.org/debian/voices/-devel@lists.debian.org for Francois.Mescam@onera.fr

2005-02-13 Thread Christian Perrier
> Why do people think it's acceptable for their stupid anti-spam measures > to inconvenience others? I am indirectly responsible for M. Mescam message. He was BCC'ed to my original mail annoucing Babelbox documentation (I had my own reasons for the BCC). However, as I did setup the Reply-To fiel

Re: Verify debianhttp://www.perrier.eu.org/debian/voices/-devel@lists.debian.org for Francois.Mescam@onera.fr

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > This isn't greylisting -- greylisting doesn't ask for verification, it > just temporarily refuses to accept the mail. Oversimplification on my side. The point was not nitpicking the system but give a general explanation... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: Verify debianhttp://www.perrier.eu.org/debian/voices/-devel@lists.debian.org for Francois.Mescam@onera.fr

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> Then it is broken. Automatic mails should be sent to the envelope > sender, unless explicitly asked otherwise. Yes, it was (broken)...:-) And, now it is not broken anymore. People learn by mistakes..:) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

(forw) Packages not using po-debconf - more active actions to come

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Perrier
This was intended for being crossposted to -devel and -i18n but I finally forgot to add -devel. Please followup to -i18n if you don't mind. - Forwarded message from Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:54:42 +0100 From: Christian Perrier <[E

Re: Request for Help: apt 0.6

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Moin, > > We need help by competent developers who work on apt 0.6 with the goal > to get it supported properly and eventually enter sid and sarge. > > There is a good chance the release will happen before the issues with > apt 0.6 are resolved, so th

Re: (forw) Packages not using po-debconf - more active actions to come

2005-02-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > * Christian Perrier > > | Please find below the alphabetical list of the relevant packages > | (main, then contrib, then non-free). > > .. as usual, please include maintainer names with package lists like > this. (And than

Re: MTA in base system installation

2005-02-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Don Armstrong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Philipp Hug wrote: > > Is it really necessary to have a full blown MTA in the base installation? > > What the hell is a "base installation"? ...what you get when installing from scratch and choose no task in tasksel. You then end

Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-19 Thread Christian Perrier
> And yes, it does belong there. It could easily add the something like: Sure. Changing an important screen with 36 complete translations just now is an easy thing to do. People who argue for this "easy change" are just volunteering to handle translation updates and bring them back to the state

Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-20 Thread Christian Perrier
> I don't know how these translation things are handled technically. But > since the intended meaning didn't change at all, I don't see why it is > better to have a "bad" english version and 40 equally "bad" translated > versions, over having a better english version, 10 better translated > version

Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

2005-02-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > No, it's not a good idea. Let's keep the change in mind for etch. That, I fully agree with...:) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The installer is not a release blocker...but interest in the installer is decreasing

2005-02-20 Thread Christian Perrier
(from a thread in -devel) Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Brian Nelson wrote: > > > There isn't any evidence I've seen that these arch's actually slow > > > down the release. > > > > Getting debian-installer working across all architectures was cert

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-07 Thread Christian Perrier
> anyway, i've uploaded my first "public" release of dbconfig-common > to experimental. minus a couple bells and whistles (and probably > plus a bunch of undiscovered bugs), it's pretty much feature complete for > what's mentioned on my webpage[3], so at this point i'd like to call for > some brav

Re: Key management using a USB key

2005-03-07 Thread Christian Perrier
> Any reason not to post it on-list? I was hoping to improve the > security/usability of my own setup based on the best practices offered up in > reply to this thread. Yep. Seconded. This is exactly what I was thinking while seeing this thread : let's watch it and learn how my fellow DD and Deb

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting sean finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > okay, i'll do that some time in the near future. i'd like to give a > final look over my templates to make sure that i like my own english > before i ask anyone to translate it though :) Well, be sure that we will be critic towards your English too...ev

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting sean finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > to reply to my own post... > > i was under the impression that because dbconfig-common was previously > in experimental that i wouldn't have problems related to the stalled > NEW queue, but i was wrong. > > so you can get them here: > > deb http://p

The Right Way to turn a native package in a non native package with a NMU

2005-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
s like it still have tons of things to learn..:-) - Forwarded message from Debian Installer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Debian Installer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yooseong Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: gnome-find_1.

Re: The Right Way to turn a native package in a non native package with a NMU

2005-03-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> So use -sa. I forgot to ACK this : the suggestion was of course correct. Thanks for the "tip" (which indeed could have been a RTFM.:-)) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#299023: ITP: zope-common -- common settings and scripts for zope installations

2005-03-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Fabio Tranchitella ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Fabio Tranchitella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: zope-common > Version : 0.5 > Upstream Author : Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://people.ubuntu.com

Offer to take over the shadow package (passwd and login binary packages)

2005-03-13 Thread Christian Perrier
Hello folks, The shadow package is officially maintained by Karl Ramm, with assistance by Sam Hartman. It is the source package for "login" and "passwd", two important pieces of Debian base system. I have helped Karl in collecting the package translations (both debconf and programs translations)

Re: Offer to take over the shadow package (passwd and login binary packages)

2005-03-13 Thread Christian Perrier
> > I have announced in many places my intent to take over the package > > development, which I'm in fact doing since mid 2004 (with NMUs). > > Would you also take over xscreensaver and maybe let me co-maintain it? I'm afraid I have to decline. More packages would be, for me, a bit too much and

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> Based on the last few hours only, I think you'll have lots of comments > to meditate on :-) Only if considering that a few dozen of people making a lot of noise and thus making the thread absolutely impossible to read for people with a normal life and health, represents the feeling of near 100

Sarge release (Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

2005-03-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hello all, > > As promised earlier on -project[0], after the release team/ftpmaster > team meeting-of-minds last weekend, we have some news to share with the > rest of the project. > > First, the news for sarge. As mentioned in the last release team

Re: Release sarge now, or discuss etch issues? (was: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

2005-03-15 Thread Christian Perrier
> I do not understand why the Nybbles team mixed their good news about > sarge with their foreseeably controversial plans or proposal for etch. This may have been a strategical error, yes. For me, the Vancouver meeting goal was obviously the sarge release and IMHO, they achieved their goal very

Re: Debian makes titles

2005-03-15 Thread Christian Perrier
> Are you happy with that? People talking about Debian ? Sure. "Press" misunderstanding issues, no, but this is not the first time. Sure, we will have (we already have) a nice Internet rumour saying "Debian drops most architectures". But, well, we have rumours about nearly anything alors une de

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Florian Zumbiehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi, > > now that the problems with my last bunch of bug reports on mostly "its" > vs. "it's" mistakes some months ago seem to be solved, I've found another > load of typos of the "a" vs. "an" flavor, about 110 in total. please please please...for an

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-15 Thread Christian Perrier
(what to do when correcting typos in debconf templatesand want to avoid extra work to translators) Quoting Adeodato Simó ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > * Christian Perrier [Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:24:57 +0100]: > > > Indeed, typo and spell corrections should not need translation updates >

Re: post-sarge transitions: slang

2005-03-16 Thread Christian Perrier
> slang should, I hope, be a fairly small change; OTOH, we seem to still have > conflicting slang1 and slang1a-utf8 packages in the archive (conflicting > -dev packages at least), so it would certainly be nice to wrap this up and > only have to carry one version of this core library for etch. >

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-16 Thread Christian Perrier
> Is this already in the Developer's Reference? If not, I think it should be > added there. Thanks for the info! Sigh, I *knew* someone would say this..:-) Well, I may be unlucky enough for the tutorial about "i18n/l10n handling for maintainers and translators" I proposed at debconf to be accep

Re: Another load of typos

2005-03-17 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Torsten Landschoff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > May I suggest reporting your HOWTO mail as a bug in the developers > reference? That way it is at least recorded somewhere. I'd do it but I > don't want without permission. Feel free to do so...this will probably be a good motivation for me to wr

Re: Bangladesh Key-Signing completed - Debian Maintiner base can now be extended there.

2005-11-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting salahuddin pasha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > hello all > > i am > salahuddin pasha (also known as salahuddin66) > 19 male > from Bangladesh, Dhaka > > interested both in > --- > 1. Bengali localisation > 2. maintain apps (deb) for Debian. > -

My IP address seems listed as a spammer address by bugs.debian.org

2005-11-19 Thread Christian Perrier
(this mail was CC'ed to debian-admin but I messed up in the To field) Since yesterday, I'm afraid that my IP address 81.56.227.253 is listed on bugs.debian.org among addresses which get a "Go away" answer when requesting a specific bug report (http://bugs.debian.org/xx) >From discussions I ha

Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20051119 meeting)

2005-11-20 Thread Christian Perrier
(reply-to: debian-boot) The minutes of the November D-I (Debian Installer) team IRC meeting are now available from the Debian Installer Meetings wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerMeetings Minutes: http://people.debian.org/~bubulle/d-i/irc-meeting-20051119/minutes Log: http://peop

Re: GPG keysigning in Bangalore, India, next month

2005-11-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting John Walther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > If any Debian developers or prospective developers would like to have > their GPG keys signed, I will probably be in Bangalore next month. > > The keysigning will probably be at the Bangalore LUG meeting, but other > arrangements can be made. Email me.

Re: Intel notebooks for needy developers in developing countries

2005-12-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> Yeah that would be a real pain to exlude countries because of stupid > political 'correctness'. All in all in Free Software movement we don't know > what the borders are, do we? We (Debian developers and contributors) certainly all agree on this (or, at least, the vast majority of us). However

Re: Debian and the desktop

2005-12-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Linas Zvirblis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >Yeah, and let's draw from the work by the Ubuntu guys, rather than > >doing it a different way! > > But doesn't Ubuntu use Debian installer? Yes, but they don't use tasksel...which is the one installing a "desktop" task. >From the D-I team point of

[D-I] [MEETINGS] Next Debian Installer meeting TOMORROW: Wednesday Dec. 14th 21:00 UTC

2005-12-12 Thread Christian Perrier
(crossposted to -devel and -i18n to trigger attention by people who maybe loosely follow debian-boot) This mail is a reminder for the next D-I team monthly meeting which is scheduled for tomorrow Wednesday Dec. 14th 21:00UTC. This IRC meeting will be held on the #debian-boot channel on freenode (

Re: Debian and the desktop

2005-12-12 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Christian Perrier wrote: > > (hey, this is why "desktop" installs the whole bloat of KDE *AND* Gnome ). > > It's possible that this statement is false, and that some change might > have been made in this area under l

Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20051214 meeting)

2005-12-16 Thread Christian Perrier
(reply-to: debian-boot) The eigth Debian Installer team meeting was held from 21:00UTC to 22:24UTC on Wednesday December 14th 2005. There were about 80 people connected to the channel during the meeting and 17 of them spoke during the meeting at least once. The full log of the meeting is availab

Re: New make is breaking several packages

2005-12-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Daniel Schepler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > It breaks a widely used feature. Why should this change not be > > considered a make bug? > > In make's NEWS.Debian.gz it says this change was for POSIX compliance. And > since there's the simple way to rewrite these things that I outlined, I thi

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-21 Thread Christian Perrier
> > Bureaucracy is often designed to do lots of things "better" and it often > > doesn't achieve them. It creates needless hassle, more 'paperwork', and > > has very few benefits besides making people feel like they've done > > something useful when they haven't. > > > You are saying that requi

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-22 Thread Christian Perrier
> The fact that a package is important (note: not referring to Priority > here) is not indicative of the amount of work necessary, nor is it > indicative of the amount of time and expertise a given maintainer has > for it. Sure. However, an "important" package will more badly suffer from lack o

D-I team meeting on Saturday January 21st 17:00UTC

2006-01-04 Thread Christian Perrier
The monthly Debian Installer team meeting which was initially scheduled for January 14th is reported to January 21st, as several D-I developers will attend the "Extremadura session" about the graphical installer development (http://wiki.debian.org/WorkSessionsExtremadura). Topics for the meeting a

Advices, comments? Bug#345651: passwd package should be essential?

2006-01-06 Thread Christian Perrier
I tend to agree with Kurt opinions below and thus, I'm tempted to make passwd "Essential: yes". The opinions in the shadow package maintenance team slightly vary. However, given that this is an important decision, I think it is a good idea to get the advice of fellow developers. So, please comment

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Loïc Minier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > (I don't think the "non-free" argument is here of importance > considering it's a web service, in the same way as Google or > buildd.net. I shall get flamed for these remarks.) As long as Debian doesn't want to build its own launchpad, sure. But th

First summary: passwd package should be essential? It probably shouldn't.

2006-01-08 Thread Christian Perrier
So far, we only got two advices but, imho, enough motivated to make me change my initial feeling. It seems that nothing has yet motivated that passwd should indeed be Essential: yes. Steve bringed the very interesting rationale: "I think we really should not be using it *except* for packages tha

Re: apt-torrent (WAS: Re: apt PARALLELISM)

2006-01-08 Thread Christian Perrier
> I've just noticed it, and the fun part of this discovery, is that I also > found why my ISP has closed sianka.free.fr: Too much hits since the > latest Debian Weekly News, and the new apt-torrent 0.3.1-1 package ! The solution is simple: get it in the Debian archive..:) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Christian Perrier
> Unless such a service is a Debian controlled resource, or is > fully GPL'd, and has open data, I do not think we should tocuh it ^^ I'm sure you mean DFSG-free here, right? :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: Dissection of an Ubuntu PR message

2006-01-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I don't intend to participate in this type of email argument with you; I've > yet to see it pay off for anyone involved. However, I will be in London > later this month and would be willing to use that opportunity to civilly > discuss your concerns fa

Re: French cheese

2006-01-13 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Unfortunately, this conflicts with a development sprint we're having in > London, so that won't be possible at that time. > > My heart breaks at the prospect of a missed opportunity to gorge myself on > cheese... Well, it's just a matter of jumping

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-13 Thread Christian Perrier
> While I'm sure there'll be some people who'll complain no matter what, > I don't see what the problem with mailing patches directly to the BTS > is. As far as tracking is concerned, making use of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > usertags or similar would seem sensible. Silly question, probably, but wouldn

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> But not *our* problem. *They* should do the work to get it better. If > they dont do it - then it is their problem, not ours. I imagine that Raphaël was thinking about debian-edu for instance. We recently tried to push some involvment among French DD's to get in closer touch with people packagi

Bug#348382: ITP: collatinus -- lemmatisation of latin text

2006-01-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: collatinus Version : 7.13 Upstream Author : Yves Ouvrard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.collatinus.org * License : GPL Description : lemm

D-I team January meeting MOVES AGAIN: Saturday January 28th 17:00UTC

2006-01-18 Thread Christian Perrier
> The monthly Debian Installer team meeting which was initially > scheduled for January 14th is reported to January 21st, as several D-I > developers will attend the "Extremadura session" about the graphical > installer development > (http://wiki.debian.org/WorkSessionsExtremadura). And, sorry, t

Re: Debian derivatives and the Maintainer: field (again)

2006-01-18 Thread Christian Perrier
> Is there anyone from Debian who thinks that changing the Maintainer > field is a bad idea in these cases (remember that this isn't about > credit, because we would certainly request that the Debian maintainer > still be mentioned as such in a suitable fashion)? So deep in a thread that certainl

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-19 Thread Christian Perrier
> It is the great danger of this thread that Matt et al. will feel > sufficiently put upon that they *don't* take to heart the legitimate > suggestions that could improve cooperation between Debian and Ubuntu (and > "distinguishing version numbers for binaries" being by far the least of > these).

Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20060128 meeting)

2006-02-02 Thread Christian Perrier
(reply-to: debian-boot) The ninth Debian Installer team meeting was held from 17:00UTC to 18:09UTC on Saturday January 28th 2006. There were about 73 people connected to the channel during the meeting and 13 of them spoke during the meeting at least once. The full log of the meeting is availabl

Re: Bug#352303: ITP: gsynaptics -- configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver of X

2006-02-11 Thread Christian Perrier
> Description: configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver of X server > GSynaptics is a configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver > of X server. This enables you to modify driver parameters on the fly > through GUI interface using "synclient" program as its backend. > . > SECURIT

Re: Bug#352303: ITP: gsynaptics -- configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver of X

2006-02-11 Thread Christian Perrier
> Now, my control contains following only: > - > GSynaptics is a configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver > of X server. This enables you to modify driver parameters on the fly > through GUI interface using "synclient" program as its backend. > -- Let's nitpick a little: 

TrueType fonts packages maintenance team proposal

2006-02-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Preamble The maintenance of fonts, at least TTF fonts, is currently splitted out among many maintainers in the project, while the problems faced by TTF font package maintainers are nearly always the same. From my own recent experience of helping/sponsoring/taking over a few font packages

Re: TrueType fonts packages maintenance team proposal

2006-02-20 Thread Christian Perrier
> I'd be glad if you'd keep the Debian TeX Task Force (currently at > [EMAIL PROTECTED], soon at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) informed about > drafts of this policy. Although we don't currently package any TTF Of courseActually, I see some difference between TTF fonts which most common use are desktop

Re: TrueType fonts packages maintenance team proposal

2006-02-20 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jaldhar H. Vyas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >Let's write a fontpackages sub-policy instead, and let it up to the > >people to decide how they want to maintain their packages. > > > > Christian, I have to agree with Daniel here. We don't really need joint > maintenance but coordination on fon

[MEETINGS] Next D-I team meeting on Saturday March 4th 17:00 UTC - Prepare next release

2006-02-25 Thread Christian Perrier
The next Debian Installer team opened meeting is scheduled for Saturday Mar 4th 17:00 UTC. This meeting will be focused on post-beta2 release goals. The D-I beta2 release is currently scheduled for the same day, so March 4th will be a pretty much important date for D-I. The Wiki page is opened fo

Re: Is there some guideline saying that native packages should be avoided?

2006-02-28 Thread Christian Perrier
> I would like to ask whether there really is such a guideline, and if so, > which are the technical / political reasons that lead to it. I have Wearing my i18n hat, I can add one reason, certainly not THE reason but yet another argument to avoid native packages except for Debian-specific stuff

Bug#355088: ITP: ttf-lao -- TrueType font for Lao language

2006-03-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ttf-lao Version : 0.0.20060226 Upstream Author : Anousak Souphavanh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/laofoss/ * License

REMINDER: Next D-I team meeting on Saturday March 4th 17:00 UTC - Prepare next release

2006-03-03 Thread Christian Perrier
This is a reminder: The next Debian Installer team opened meeting is scheduled for Saturday Mar 4th 17:00 UTC. That is TOMORROW. This meeting will be focused on post-beta2 release goals. The D-I beta2 release will probably be delayed a little bit but the meeting will more focus on post-beta2 anyw

D-I team meeting of 20060304: log available

2006-03-04 Thread Christian Perrier
The wiki page of D-I team meetings (http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Meetings) now links the full log of the March 2006 meeting that took place yesterday from 17:00UTC to 18:30 UTC. http://people.debian.org/~bubulle/d-i/irc-meeting-20060304/log The meeting minutes will be published as soon

Fonts packages maintenance team (second) proposal

2006-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
(this mail is BCC'ed to many font packages maintainers, please respect the Reply-To field) After the initial proposal which I submitted a few days ago (http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/02/msg00694.html), a small thread occurred on debian-devel which raised a few topics from my initial mai

Re: Fonts packages maintenance team (second) proposal

2006-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
> Also if such a team is created I don't have a lot of time to help a lot, > so I won't refuse to give some help, but I probably will not be the most > active person in the team! > > What I really like in the proposal is having a font policy, and maybe a > sort of package skeleton for new font

Re: Fonts packages maintenance team (second) proposal

2006-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
m can also act as a gateway between some upstream maintainers of "general" fonts which intend to cover as many parts of Unicode as possible (here, I think about ttf-dejavu and ttf-freefont mostly)so that they can *integrate* the work done on some more specialized fonts (for instance

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2006-03-08 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Bastian Blank ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi, > > Half-way between the sarge release and the etch freeze the Debian kernel Aren't we closer from etch freeze than sarge release? :-) This is at least my feeling when I consider the packages and the proejcts I'm part of: we, developers, should b

Re: Fonts packages maintenance team (second) proposal

2006-03-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> > - a mailing list hosted on lists.debian.org > > where? I didn't see any... or is it in alioth? I didn't begin setting stuff up, except an Alioth project. I prefer seeing what directions the discussion about the proposal goes to, before setting things that could be misnamed/useless/whatever...

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> If I were a crazier man I would say something like: > >"The end is neigh!" > > It is a dark, dark day for Debian, indeed. Death of Debian predicted. Film at 11. Believe it or not, but Joey's resign could actually be more a Good Thing than a bad thing. Seeing renewal and new blood come i

Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20060304 meeting)

2006-03-11 Thread Christian Perrier
ttf-freefont in case the line spacing issue is a blocker. Thus, Davide Viti will try to check whether these DejaVu fonts cover enough glyph ranges. About freefont, the deal is either have a less complete font without line spacing problem (20051102-2) or a more complete one with the problem (20060

Re: Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20060304 meeting)

2006-03-11 Thread Christian Perrier
> g-i integration > --- > > Since the last meeting, several blockers have been raised and, > actually, the integration of Graphical Installer builds in the main > build system is theoretically possible. It seems that at least one person (hello, Lars) survived down to this part...whi

Re: Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20060304 meeting)

2006-03-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Mar 11, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The idea of non-free installation images pops up but, later, there > > were comments that it would make the maintenance of D-I builds more > > compli

Fonts packages maintenance team begins work

2006-03-12 Thread Christian Perrier
On the basis of the last proposal I made, I hereby declare the font packaging team opened to all volunteers. Up to now, I have added to the project, the following people who explicitely requested to do so (and provided me with an Alioth login): Mohammed Adnène Trojette Paul Wise Arne Götje Norber

News from the pkg-fonts project

2006-03-14 Thread Christian Perrier
The Font packaging project is slowly progressing. After setting up an Alioth project and a SVN repository, we now have a mailing list on Alioth: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-fonts-devel The point is now gathering the interested people in this mailing list and make the projec

Looking for a Korean native speaker for a few translation updates

2005-01-27 Thread Christian Perrier
Hello, fellow Debian developers and users, The Korean translation of Debian in general, and especially the Debian Installer, has been made up to now mostly by Changwoo Ryu, one of the few DD's in Korea. I'm however without news from him for several weeks now and we have, for D-I and "related" pac

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