Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Christian Perrier wrote: > > (hey, this is why "desktop" installs the whole bloat of KDE *AND* Gnome ). > > It's possible that this statement is false, and that some change might > have been made in this area under less than clear circumstances as a > kind of experiment just to see how long it takes for someone to notice > and what traspires if they do. Or not.
I currently don't see what's exactly meant in you above statement, Joey. KDE and Gnome tasks have been created but they don't appear in tasksel and are more (as far as I've understoof) intended for making the life of derived distributions easier. And, anyway, the KDE/Gnome thing is only one of the points I meant about the "usability" of our default desktop system, when we target our dear Bob User. For sure, one of the problems we have is more or less mentioned in my initial mail: we (d-i team) maintain what currently installs the default Debian desktop...however we do not test it enough...because we focus on the many other issues we're all working on. And, indeed, when I say that "we" maintain tasksel, the reality is that *you*, Joey, maintain tasksel...:). And, except your testing lab and a few installation reports we get, we don't have that much feedback and testing made on stuff installed by default on a Debian desktop system. We usually know that it either "works" or "is broken"....but when it works (it usually does), we don't really know whether the result is something that can be used by Bob without reading the entire set of books about Debian. I hope that this discussion will trigger enough interest among fellow developers and lead much more testing and activity around this. (hoping it won't turn in a nice thread tree like the ones you described once in a famous post in your blog) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]