programs
and I will stop following this Policy directive. In my opinion, the choice is
to be left to the maintainer, and this is not well reflected by using a
’should’ directive in the Policy. I would like to see it rephrased as a best
practice or removed.
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o lines what copyleft means, and is not an additional restriction to the
GPL.
debian-de...@l.d.o is a good place to hear some advices, but the only persons
who veto packages in Debian are our archive administrators, an none of them has
objected against libjs-extjs. In my opinion, just go ahead
of a program I
package to remove a similar clause, by referring to the following essay on the
FSF website: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/bsd.html. Maybe you can give
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be found vulnerable, the severity will be
> raised of course).
Dear Steffen,
shouldn’t the upstream maintainer(s) be warned before the security issue is
advertised in public?
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llPermissive
http://blitiri.com.ar/p/bola/
http://genaud.net/2005/10/poetic-license/
There is also the CC0, which is supposed to mean something similar to the
above:
http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode
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big monolithic file, and give commit access to all DDs for instance. That would
also completely untie the update of upstream metadata from package upload, and
if the file is managed in a VCS, it would be easy to revert mistakes and find
misusers, if somebody ever dares.
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as it
enters into technical details about packaging issues.
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obviously careless, would be far more efficient than our current procedure.
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acy. It also creates a more complex mechanism at
our archive level, which raises the bar for new contributors.
I really feel sorry for the Lintian maintianers who will get most of the flames
in the future.
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> Le Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:07:19PM +, Roger Leigh a écrit :
> >
> > While most developers are conscientious enough to make sure their
> > packages build, one does see enough crap packages that IMO t
by a too long recruitment process.
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just another example of how the Policy is sometimes going too
far in
chosing how developers should implement interfaces, instead of simply
specifying the interface.
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> The interface definition behind this is:
That ‘make -f debian/rules’ is not present anywhere in the Policy demonstrates
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> getting around to filing bugs on policy MUST violations and others that
> make the package too buggy to be in Debian
Wow, time goes so fast, it is already the season for attempting to delay the
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is no incentive for them to be fixed.
With this in mind, I think that Stefano's proposition to implicate the QA team
in the management of which tag gets in the blacklist makes a lot of sense, as
it will help the people who will do the hard work of orphaning, MIA checking,
and bug fixing to prior
Le Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 08:49:40AM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit :
>
> I'm not seeing where he's doing any significant harm
By killing the discusssion with a flood of emails. Here are the top posters for
this month in this thread:
3 Charles Plessy (+1 with this one)
ugh the long
process that may allow to] remove them from the archive.
Do you understand why people are getting annoyed ?
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me. Otherwise,
since shipping configuration files in /etc/webserver/conf.d will still be
necessary for these packages to work, there will little benefit in moving files
to /usr/share/www.
Anyway, thank you very much for your initiative. Exploring new directions is
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would
have nothing against a ‘Future directions’ addendum to DEP-5 that would contain
such a field after it has been more throroughly thought.
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I like a lot doc-central, because on computers with a short name,
only a few keystrokes in the browser bar can call it. Switching from “foo/dc”
to “foo/vendors-apps/dc” is unfun, expecially since the ‘-’ sign is a moving
target on heterogeneous keyboard environments.
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>
> > Still, having /usr/share/www as a document root does not prevent complex
> > packages to be fragmented between /usr/share, /usr/lib/
built will not be the same in the buildds when they process the packages a few
days later (even on amd64 this month, see
https://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=r-cran-spatial).
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Oh no, please, Please, PLEASE, *PLEASE* do not cross-post the discussions
between debian-vote and debian-devel. There is no point having separated lists
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akes slopiness a problem in
general.
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ebuild of the architecture-independant packages
happens. Could we have a bit more details on the buildd(s) and arch(es)
involved, the contact points in case of breakage, etc…
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no user will complain. So why not ?
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ioinformatics packages would help the two sides of the coin.
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the gain for everybody.
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both groups, Debian Med and the hppa porters, which like every
other group in Debian severely lack manpower.
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ations introduced by runing the autotools, which would
be simply ignored instead of being turned into an useless patch. And it would
also open a way to unify with the VCS-based formats.
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MIA. If nobody wants to maintain this package, it should better be
orphaned or removed than NMUed. If the maintainer is active, it is of course
with him and not this list that the contents of the NMU have to be discussed.
If he gives you green light, there is of course no problem fixing no-RC iss
t you were not going to change
your mind about format ‘3.0 (quilt)’, and then gave up. How many others?
I understand that you do not want to throw away your work on this patch
management system, but by making it optional, I think that you will actually
increase your chances of success…
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by forgetting to type some whitespace in the apparently
emptly line between the first line of the License field and the main part.
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It was download
aving this
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Le Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 09:09:45AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
>
> you can end up building a binary package that does not match the source
> package that you upload together with the binary packages.
“You”? Not me. What I upload comes from sbuild.
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> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > even simpler, an option or a format that would completely ignore what is
> > outside the debian directory:
>
> That's option "-i.*". As I sai
working with format 1.0 as
before.
Last question: is the use of the Format field in debian/control deprecated, or
can I use it for the packages that I would like to stay in the format 1.0?
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I maintain, to facilitate
uploads by people not familiar with the package if needed, as well as to inform
the users about what level of testing they should expect. I encourage other
maintainers—especially those concerned with helping “NMUers”—to do so.
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h benefit. I propose
to apply this to DEP-5:
### Extra fields.
Extra fields can be added to any section. It is not recommended to prefix
their
name by **`X-`**.
I hope it can contribute to ease experimentation.
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> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:56:05 +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> > I'm triing to package a little java library, which
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> Le Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 12:26:52AM -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> > On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 03:56:51PM +0100, Thibaut Paumard wrote:
> >
> > > I remember that debian/copyright should not only list wh
when adding by hand the
contents of the artistic v2.0 license to the debian/copyright file from one of
the packages I maintain, I concluded that it can significantly impair the
adoption of DEP-5. So on this list or elsewhere, I think that there is still
some experimentation and concertation to do.
Have
P team, and everybody.
The discussion was held for half a year now. Can we have an update on what is
happening on the lawyer side?
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documentation (that goes further than what is required by some licenses),
or double-check our packages.
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r open, but I think that using something as complex as RDF is prematurate.
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ght declarations could be made in DEP-5 format, to save time to
everybody. I will report if I make progress on this part.
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meta-packages instead. See for instance http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep6/ and
the recent disussion on this list.
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t the upstream directories).
Would such a format have a chance to be accepted some day in our archive?
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I do no know if that would justify
changing the package name to something longer...
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enu. Or even
better, a policy.
Not being a user of this menu, I have a hard time guessing what users
expect.
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ather advocate using the .desktop format as a native
configuration file. This way we could take advantage of existing
information, and also contribute back our work to the the upstream
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do not need to re-iterate the short
description. How about listing the most important main features instead?
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we saved time. If it fails only idleing is lost.
Or how about having the package rejected before being queued if it is
not buildable on a (p|cow)builder installed on a fast machine, for
instance?
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will work on EMBOSS with others soon.
http://wiki.debian.org/SequenceAlignment
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> > MAFFT is a multiple sequence alignment program for unix-like operating
> > systems. It offers a range of multiple alignment methods, L-INS-i
> > (acc
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://storage.sesse.net/pfs-sources.tar.gz
Hi all,
There are packages here as well:
http://itp.tugraz.at/Comp/debian/dists/sarge/main/source/
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sure that there will be localisation-friendly developpers who would help
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is another library which calls itself NEXUS (in fact, Nexus Class
Library).
http://hydrodictyon.eeb.uconn.edu/ncl/
Currently, it is not packaged but it is used by at least one package,
from the orig.tar.gz.
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sck run.
Hi all,
how about a "I'm in a hurry" boot option in GRUB, which would make the
e2fscks skipped ?
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t be that a bad idea ? There has been a lot of talk explaining
that there is no need to leave written justifications for binNMUs, but I
think that we are stil clueless about the problem it was supposed to
solve in the case of Bacula...
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> If there are specific things about the BTS which you do not like, file
> wishlist bugs or clarify existing wishlist bugs for them.
Hi Don,
Where to send the bug: debbugs or bugs.debian.org ?
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e Debian should go if it
wants to increase its manpower ? I will continue to do opportunistic
fishing for a while...
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I think that a web
interface to the BTS could make the task easier for volunteers, since
exploring the bug space of a software (from the Debian package to the
Debian derivatives and the upstream sources) is done mostly through the
web.
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opinion crucial to the
survival of Debian. Packages which are not actively developoped and
whose maintainer is not currently active should be instantly
hijackable, preferably by teams. Would somebody take care of the
packages I created, I would not feel like being robbed. It would give
me extra time
-devel in the hope that the question is not too naive and
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I know I have many open ITPs, but this program already has a manpage,
so it will not take hours to package...
Package name: melting, melting-gui
Version : 4.2g
Upstream Author : Nicolas Le Novère &
ctly, Debconf does not allow two-layer
structures... This is the kind of situation where voting in the BTS
would be cool. It would give to the debconf maintainers an estimate of
how wanted the feature is. Shall we submit a wishlist bug on tasksel,
blocked by a withlist but on debconf?
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ung and Joey Hess. Although I suspected that Joey
Hess was "The" maintainer, your mail made me wonder if you were meaning
something elese as "its maintainer" does not fit a team or two
uploaders, until Joey answered...
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ter that the packages pulled by the CDD are
not present on the physical installaiton medium.
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Le Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 04:16:29PM +0200, Jérémy Bobbio a écrit :
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>
> Torbutton is a 1-click way for Iceweasel/Icedove users to enable or disable
> the
> browser's use of Tor.
Hi,
maybe you can remind what Tor is
, maybe something in the /var hierachy would be more
appropriate. But there is no /var/share... Also I am a bit unsure if the
local sysadmin would be allowed to write in...
Was there already a similar situation in Debian? What was the solution
chosen?
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Le Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:39:23AM +0200, Michael Hanke a écrit :
> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 09:08:36AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > In the Debian-Med project, we started to package a bioinformatic
> > analysis suite - EMBOSS - which exploits local or remote sequence
> >
5.5.1), if
the stable release team accepts the update, the package would be
available in stable-proposed-updates before inclusion in the next point
release.
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Le Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:50:50PM -0400, Greg Folkert a écrit :
> > f, Usability problems, wishes and bugs should get fixed too. I should
> > be able to report a problem, participate on it's solution and see
> > fruits of that.
>
> Have you even looked at Debian's BTS? Unless your patch or bug is
Le Wed, May 16, 2007 at 01:26:30AM +0200, Frans Pop a écrit :
> On Wednesday 16 May 2007 01:11, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > Maybe at each point release, the release notes could be
> > updated on the basis of these messages. Things like "emacs21 does not
> > have full un
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the format
of the control file
Justify-baz: You can use baz instead of bar.
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. Otherwise, instead of fragmenting on topics, we
fragment into communauties. (For instance, is there any reason why
debian-release became a discussion list without formal notification?)
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would you agree to publish 2.8 packages? Alternatively, would it be OK
if a DD would upload Ubuntu's packages to experimental?
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the pserver, or
informing that it is working again if it is the case (communication!!),
it would help to have a bit more up-to-date contents...
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names of
the binary programs.
However, if I do not get answers, I will suppose that nobody cares about
the packages cons, pscan and/or hsffig anymore, and will request their
removal rather than complicating the things for the users of EMBOSS.
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Le Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:36:05AM -0700, H. S. Teoh a écrit :
> On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:15:31PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > Dear Hwei, Uwe and John,
> >
> > I did not manage to contact you in private (see below), therefore by
> > policy 10.1 I have to move the
possibilities :
- An Etch-centric view of the BTS (user friendly),
- More updates to the release notes,
- Documentation updates (BUGS section in the manpages)
Other ideas ?
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