Re: Bug#638322: nfs-common: rpc.statd binds to udp port 631 preventing cups startup

2011-08-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 16:17 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh (h...@debian.org) [110820 14:39]: > > Yes. And we can easily maintain a current one for Debian-packaged software, > > although the initial build of such a blacklist will take some work. > > Actually, the exist

Re: Maintainers, porters, and burden of porting

2011-08-31 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 11:57 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: [...] > But a different thread library that has clear POSIX compliance bugs[*] > is the kind of things that make me fear that many more packages than we > see currently are broken on kfreebsd. And I'm not sure that it's where > we want to spe

Re: kernel.org compromised

2011-09-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
kept on the signers' own systems, not on kernel.org. So I am confident that our upstream sources were not modified by the intruder. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings We get into the habit of living before acquiring the habit of thinking.

Re: Bug#640672: moving files to arch specific include breaks compilations with -m32

2011-09-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 14:44 +0200, Daniel Bayer wrote: > Package: linux-libc-dev > Version: 3.0.0-3 > Severity: normal > File: /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/asm/errno.h > > Hi, > > since asm/errno.h was moved to the arch specific sub directory it is > no longer possible to create 32 Bit Binaries

Bug#641221: Debian Squeeze problem with firewire_core (DV camera over FireWire)

2011-09-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
> > Is this the right address? > Any ideas concerning this problem? This may be a bug in the firewire_ohci driver. Please send the output of 'lspci -vnn', the output of 'cat /proc/version', and a summary of the information you sent to the debian-user list. Ben

Re: How to coordinate a DVD burn program with udev ?

2011-09-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
0:0/block/sr0' > Sep 9 22:00:48 debian2 udevd-work[21697]: no reference left, remove > '/dev/dvdrw' > [... no attempt to create a new /dev/dvdrw ...] > Sep 9 22:00:48 debian2 udevd[435]: seq 1275 done with 0 > > -- > > It looks as if xorriso's activi

Re: How to coordinate a DVD burn program with udev ?

2011-09-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
to improve the relationship of my burn software with udev. > > But i need instructions. Where to ask for them ? Have you asked the udev developers *why* it is doing this problematic and apparently redundant work in case of a 'change' event on a CD drive? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings If m

Re: Bug#642198: ITP: r8168 -- dkms source for the r8168 network driver

2011-09-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
olve, due to the PCI ID overlap with r8169.ko > shipped by the kernel packages themselves. This driver claims > 10ec:8168, which is also taken by the in-kernel r8169.ko module. [...] Agree, this should not be added to the archive. If people are in a hurry to get new support for new dev

Re: Architectures where unaligned access is (not) OK?

2014-11-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
roper alignment for struct foo and to optimise the memcpy() accordingly. And yes, this is something that gcc really does. Pointers to an unaligned instance of a structure generally need to be declared as void *, char * or unsigned char * (or const-qualified versions). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Never put off till tomorrow what you can avoid all together. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: upgrading to jessie broke usb_storage on a mode switched device

2014-11-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
r it's attached. This might need a workaround in the driver. > All of this is of course speculation without any knowledge of how stuff > works in reality, so could be pure imagination. > > My working hypothesis is that once I know the answer to the Q: above, > I'll know t

Re: Embedded systems and systemd

2014-11-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
o keep up to date. It is up to the customers to demand this. (And if end users find they are exposed to known security issues because product and SoC manufacturers don't feel any moral obligation to update them, a few lawsuits might get their attention.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings

Re: Embedded systems and systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 21:48 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > working upstream > > Are there any vendors of ARM-based devices who are doing that? Most of the SoC vendors seem to be doing *some* work to get their chips support

Re: Linux Kernel 3.17 Features

2014-12-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
ernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=da3b0ab75aadab63d1ffd5563100c9386e444dad Maybe. > Broadwell > commit: > http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=afdb74fd708fb4330485212f76a70b91967b1f70 Maybe. (But that's just audio.) Please open bugs against src:linux fo

Re: dpkg packaging problems

2015-01-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
-gnu/libc.so.6 GNU C Library (Debian GLIBC 2.19-13) stable release version 2.19, by Roland McGrath et al. Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULA

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
t serves as a reminder of the old Unix workstations of the 90s and the infatuation of the some of the workstation vendors with Windows NT. (Now we know that making Windows portable doesn't mean applications get ported, and the workstations largely got replaced by PCs rather than just changing OS. But then some of those PCs ended up running Linux...) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Lowery's Law: If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Who gets an email when with bugreports [was: Re: Unauthorised activity surrounding tbb package]

2015-01-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
But the acknowledgement mail should tell you how to subscribe, if you aren't already subscribed. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Larkinson's Law: All laws are basically false. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Who gets an email when with bugreports [was: Re: Unauthorised activity surrounding tbb package]

2015-01-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 17:07 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 01:03:52AM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-01-19 at 08:37 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > > > > > I

Re: Jessie will need Linux 3.18!

2015-02-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
ssie can not be used in a production environment on a > Corporate Network, for example... [...] Please, don't exaggerate. Debian is already widely used with the Linux 3.16. Apparently certain configurations don't work properly, but we can probably fix that. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings H

Re: RT kernel for jessie?

2015-02-12 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 21:13 +0100, Jaromír Mikeš wrote: > > > 2014-10-06 23:21 GMT+02:00 Jaromír Mikeš : > 2014-10-06 18:28 GMT+02:00 Ben Hutchings > : > On Mon, 2014-10-06 at 09:04 +0200, Jaromír Mikeš >

Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system

2015-02-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
] Yes, exactly. Laying any blame on systemd for this is completely unreasonable. (It might be more reasonable to blame initramfs-tools if it didn't give you any warnings.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Never attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by stupidity. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: http.debian.net redirection setting for cdn.debian.net DNS changes

2015-02-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
asn't perfect but it was useful to laptop users for a long time. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Absolutum obsoletum. (If it works, it's out of date.) - Stafford Beer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Delete

2015-03-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
system will be run. If Windows is not listed in the menu, it has probably been erased and you will need to use Windows installation media (such as a DVD) to reinstall it. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Editing code like this is akin to sticking plasters on the bleeding stump of a severed limb. - me, 29 Jun

Re: squeeze-lts signature

2015-04-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
t; Squeeze-lts version of debian-archive-keyring doesn't contain the > jessie's key, so verifying the second signature will fail. > > I think this is a bug, but i was not sure about which package should i > fill against. I think that would be ftp.debian.org. Ben. -- Ben Hutchi

Re: Bug#783833: ITP: python-obitools -- set of programs specifically designed for analyzing NGS data in a DNA metabarcoding contex

2015-04-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
ing and base maintenance. > > > I understand the need to plan python3 switch, however we cannot block > tools used by the community. [...] Yes we can. There are many popular programs not packaged in Debian because they do not meet our standards. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings A free so

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
y on installation, thus > keeping the system bootable, with the documentation that the > configuration change should be (a) manually and (b) atomically? [...] We don't currently have a way for packages to install kernel parameters that boot loaders should append to the command line. I think we s

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
nce systemd 215-14. Previously there was another race condition in updating that file (#765577). > If the answer of the last question is "no", whatever the default > that will be chosen, I will configure my systems to use MAC-based > names but with a different template (enX

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
hardware that gets a different locally- assigned address at each boot or hotplug? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. - Harrison signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
r architecture using Device Tree) the on-board indices should be specified as aliases 'ethernet0', 'ethernet1', etc. The aliases will be listed in the uevent as OF_ALIAS_0 (or OF_ALIAS_1, etc., as a device can have multiple aliases). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings For every action, there

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 12:16 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > The NM configuration is based on MAC addresses and doesn’t care > about > > the interface name at all. This is the exact opposite of “handling > > dy

Re: Bug#786902: O: ifupdown -- high level tools to configure network interfaces

2015-05-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
sed program as the default network configuration system. > For a start it would make python transitively important. I do, it's about time we had a decent scripting language in the base system. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Unix is many things to many people, but it's never been everything to anybody. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Proposal v2: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-06-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
to do the > conversion? It gave the option to retry conversion (assuming you manually fix something before answering) or to continue without automatic conversion. In that case the old kernel version would generally still be available as a fallback, whereas this is of course not true with udev. Ben. --

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
] Installation of a package from the 'metapackages' section does *not* mark its dependencies as automatically installed. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Hoare's Law of Large Problems: Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
table (hyperv-daemons built from linux -tools source), and could possible be backported to jessie if they are that important. However, I think some more work is needed to integrate them properly. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings [W]e found...that it wasn't as easy to get programs right as we had tho

Re: Debian is not welcome on Microsoft Azure

2015-08-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 21:49 +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote: > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:43:17 +0200 > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > They are now packaged in unstable (hyperv-daemons built from linux > > -tools source), and could possible be backported to jessie if they are > > tha

Re: Minutes from the "32bit architectures in Debian"-bof

2015-08-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
d append by default? There are plenty of packages that this would be useful for. For x32 the installer (or maybe a package such as base-files) could add the 'syscall.x32=y'. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Always try to do things in chronological order; it's less confusing that way. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Minutes from the "32bit architectures in Debian"-bof

2015-08-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
binaries > > could only be used with an appropriate boot option? This however isn't > > any issue with the i386-architecture, but only on using this arch in > > an chroot in an amd64-installation. > x32 is not just i386 binaries (though I'm curious why this should be &

Re: Minutes from the "32bit architectures in Debian"-bof

2015-08-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
though it has a few modern instruction set extensions > (notably for security). So, i386 needs to stick around for the > foreseeable future. [...] The last I heard, all Quark chips have serious bugs that prevent Debian i386 from running on them. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Always try to do things in c

Re: Minutes from the "32bit architectures in Debian"-bof

2015-08-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2015-08-27 at 10:45 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Wed, 2015-08-26 at 12:08 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > > Andreas Barth wrote: > > > > Specific issues: > > > > - for i386, there is still sold new hardware with 32bit

Re: system upgrade by systemd

2015-08-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
tion as "modem". The download behaviour should not be dependent on 'is the default route going through a cellular modem', but 'is the default route [relatively] expensive'. Plenty of people use cellular data as their primary Internet connection and would therefore

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
eived patches for these headers (usually spelling fixes) I would make the corresponding change to the unpublished file as well. I think that, given the choice, outside developers would still have preferred editing the C header files, so I was fairly comfortable with this. Ben. > [1] https:

Re: Installer: 32 vs. 64 bit

2018-10-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
age in both of the > cases outlined above? We should not do in this in the second case, since it is supposed to work. (But a warning might be reasonable.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The obvious mathematical breakthrough [to break modern encryption] would be

Re: Confusing our users - who is supporting LTS?

2018-10-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
we refer to jessie's status (and future releases when regular security support for them ends). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The obvious mathematical breakthrough [to break modern encryption] would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers.

Re: Confusing our users - who is supporting LTS?

2018-10-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
but "supported by LTS", which might be confusing to these users. So, > maybe just fix this nitpick? [...] Although Freexian organises funding for LTS work, there are other LTS contributors paid directly by other organisations or working on their own time. So the best name we have for those

Re: Confusing our users - who is supporting LTS?

2018-10-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
nizations, complete with the restrictions that might come > with that. Debian can't afford to pay developers in general, and previous proposals to pay specific developers were not well received. So, I don't this happening. Ben. > Another way is for Debian websites to not solic

Re: Uncoordinated upload of the rustified librsvg

2018-11-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
lightly. So what about > reverting it now so things don't degrade, then having a flamewar what to do? We already know what to do, which is to prioritise our upcoming release and the architectures that will be included in it. We do not allow Debian ports to hold back changes

Re: Uncoordinated upload of the rustified librsvg

2018-11-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 13:15 +0100, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo wrote: > Hi, > > 2018-11-04 01:13 Ben Hutchings: > > On Sat, 2018-11-03 at 23:46 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: [...] > > > A regression of this scale shouldn't be done lightly. So what about > >

Re: Uncoordinated upload of the rustified librsvg

2018-11-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 22:05 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 04.11.18 um 20:30 schrieb Jeremy Bicha: > > On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 11:33 AM Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > I do like the proposal of adding a librsvg-c for just the architectures > > > that don't have

Re: I resigned in 2004

2018-11-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
other hand, most of my reply to willy's mail was not addressed to > him, but to debian-devel@ at large, to have everybody else understand > how silly what he did was. [...] This is the problem. Whether or not it's "silly", that doesn't justify making a public examp

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
is no longer supported by > Debian contrib/non-free. I'm not aware of any gap. In fact, at the kernel level, there is some overlap where the newest models supported by radeon are also supported (on an opt-in basis) by amdgpu. The proprietary AMD graphics stack now depends on the amdgpu ker

Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
o support a minority of users, but we try to follow them anyway. Yesterday's special case (SMP, hotplug, mobile, 64-bit, ...) often becomes tomorrow's common case. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Lowery's Law: If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. signa

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2018-11-24 at 21:51 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 06:06:16PM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-11-24 at 15:21 +, Simon McVittie wrote: > > [...] > > > Recent AMD GPUs use the "amdgpu" kernel driver and its accompa

Re: Proposal: Repository for fast-paced package backports

2018-12-31 Thread Ben Hutchings
icularly good term to describe the unique feature of the new > repo either. In my eyes, 'fastpaced' makes the point far better. > > But as said, the main argument against calling it 'rolling' is that it > would create confusion due to the name already being used in other > (Debian-related) contexts. At the risk of bikeshedding, some alternate names that might be less confusing: - fresh-apps - evergreen - rolling-apps Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat. - John Lehman signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Handling of entropy during boot

2019-01-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
nvestigate the bugs. You said > you provided links, but I couldn't find any in your e-mail messages or > earlier ones on this thread. Perhaps I missed them; in which case, my > apologies. Can you please send/resend those links? [...] I sent you a bunch of bug links in mes

Re: Handling of entropy during boot

2019-01-21 Thread Ben Hutchings
ous software entropy gathering daemons. We should also document this so that users that distrust certain entropy sources will know how to disable them. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Klipstein's 4th Law of Prototyping and Production: A fail-safe circuit will destro

Re: Potentially insecure Perl scripts

2019-01-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
inks, and many other kinds of security hardening changes. We made them anyway and took the temporary pain for a long-term security gain. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere. - Anne Morrow Lindberg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Handling of entropy during boot

2019-02-12 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2019-01-21 at 21:46 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, 2019-01-21 at 20:49 +, Andy Simpkins wrote: > [...] > > Should we add to or change the possible entropy sources? > [...] > > Yes, we should (by default) enable use of available hardware RNGs to > produc

Re: Recreating history of a package

2019-02-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
And it has HSTS, which is nice, but it is missing the redirection that's needed to make that work completely. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings When in doubt, use brute force. - Ken Thompson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-02-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
n 2011 (Ivy Bridge core) and AMD only implemented in 2015 (Excavator core). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The obvious mathematical breakthrough [to break modern encryption] would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers. - Bil

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-02-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
file contents is the old seed file contents. You are adding very little entropy on x86, and possibly almost none on other architectures. Please reconsider this, as this description sounds dangerously insecure. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The obvious mathema

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-02-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2019-02-25 at 18:27 +0200, Uoti Urpala wrote: > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > The major input into the new seed file contents is the old seed file > > contents. You are adding very little entropy on x86, and possibly > > almost none on other architectures. > > >

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-02-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2019-02-25 at 16:48 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Ben Hutchings dixit: > > >> ‣ writes between 32 and 256 bytes to /dev/urandom (but does not > >> accredit them yet, just remembers the amount written) > > > >How do you determi

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-02-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
ndom() without also unblocking /dev/random. If the seed files used in two different boots are somewhat correlated, and the entropy estimation doesn't account for that, the output of /dev/random may also be somewhat correlated between the boots, which is not supposed to happen. Ben. -- Ben Hu

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-02-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2019-02-25 at 14:36 -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > > > "Ben" == Ben Hutchings writes: > > Ben> The output of the RNG may well become public, for example in > Ben> document UUIDs. So when estimating the entropy that the new >

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-02-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2019-02-26 at 22:29 +0200, Uoti Urpala wrote: > On Tue, 2019-02-26 at 19:10 +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > But if the input to the seed doesn't provide enough entropy, the seed > > is not completely secret (that is, you can recover it with less work > > than a

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-02-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 11:56 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Ben Hutchings writes ("Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools"): > > On Mon, 2019-02-25 at 19:37 +0200, Uoti Urpala wrote: > > > Generally you don't ever > > > need to use /dev/random instead of /dev/urand

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-02-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
"arc4random" functions really use ChaCha20 today, anyway. Ben. > I hope you have found this review helpful. -- Ben Hutchings This sentence contradicts itself - no actually it doesn't. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-03-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
l problems with doing this: some of these hardware RNGs are probably quite weak, so we have to be very conservative, but then the less entropy we credit the more CPU time will be spent in the hardware RNG reader thread. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings No political challenge can be met by shopping. - George Mo

Re: FYI/RFC: early-rng-init-tools

2019-03-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2019-03-03 at 22:55 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Mar 03, 2019 at 08:19:44PM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sun, 2019-03-03 at 18:59 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > [...] > > > Most people will actually have at least 2 hardware RNGs: One in > > > t

Bug#820036: Debian does not run on systems with Secure Boot enabled

2019-04-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
Control: summary -1 GRUB and Linux images are now signed by the production key trusted by shim-signed. Debian-installer apparently installs the signed packages, but other installation systems are not yet ready. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Quantity is no substitute for quality, but it's the onl

Re: Re: Removal of Wheezy and Jessie (except LTS) from mirrors

2019-04-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
-updates suite will not be removed until end of LTS. As for jessie-backports, the removal was announced in July 2018. Ben. > OK, I am a little late to pick up on this, but I'm sure there are > other people still running some Jessie systems who only run update > commands on them every mo

Re: Re: Removal of Wheezy and Jessie (except LTS) from mirrors

2019-04-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
the -updates suite will not be removed until end of LTS. As for jessie-backports, the removal was announced in July 2018. Ben. > OK, I am a little late to pick up on this, but I'm sure there are > other people still running some Jessie systems who only run update > commands on the

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
ging that I raised in October. (I say "we" because I realise you are likely to need me or someone else to spend time explaining and testing the specific scenarios that didn't work.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is easier to write an incorrect program than to understand a correct one.

Re: fixing debian-security-support upgrades from stretch (for good)

2019-05-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
r from *any* stretch pointrelease) by adding a "pre-depends: > debian-security-support (>= 2019.04.25)" to base-files in buster. [...] This makes debian-security-support transitively essential, whereas it used to be optional. Is "Conflicts" not strong enough? Ben. --

Re: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH

2019-05-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
random developers can do the NMU. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings For every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: fixing debian-security-support upgrades from stretch (for good)

2019-05-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2019-05-13 at 19:08 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > reassign -1 base-files > retitle -1 base-files: please add a break on d-s-s < 2019.04.25 > thanks > > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 01:00:14PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-05-13 at 11:52 +, Holger

Re: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH

2019-05-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
d/rules file? linux is one. I did a lot of work to address lintian warnings last year, and most of that did not involve debian/rules*. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH

2019-05-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2019-05-14 at 12:54 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:38:06AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-05-14 at 11:07 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > Can you give an example for a package that has a non-dh rules file > > > "wo

Re: Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-21 Thread Ben Hutchings
own or non-free dataset [...] > 3. A model is Non-free Model as long as any of the following > conditions is satisfied: (1) trained from unknown/non-free data [...] Is category 2 intended to be a subset of category 3, or am I missing some distinction? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Any sufficient

Re: Survey: git packaging practices / repository format

2019-05-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
beside debian/control. I have an unmerged branch that changes various things to be compatible with dgit. It adds debian/control and debian/tests/control to git and defers generation of other things to build time. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Horngren's Observation: Among economist

Re: Survey: git packaging practices / repository format

2019-05-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
tignore but > not usually Makefile.in). [...] Perhaps we should update policy to say that the .orig tarball may (or even "should") be generated from an upstream release tag where applicable. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Horngren's Observation: Among economists, the real

Re: ZFS in Buster

2019-05-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
19.37 > > https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.19.38 > > The commit also affects ZFS 0.7 because SIMD is used for checksum operations. > > There might be a performance penalty in ZFS only if Debian Buster > upgrades to 4.19.38. Which we will, some time soon.

Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money

2019-06-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
counts, regardless of whether the vendor is interested in being a sponsor. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Unix is many things to many people, but it's never been everything to anybody. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: OpenCL / handling of hardware-specific packages

2019-07-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
gt; Petter for further input. Linux doesn't distinguish between devices found in an initial enumeration or hot-plugged later, so I doubt that isenkram is limited in that way. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature. signature.asc Descr

Re: Dropping Release and Release.gpg support from APT

2019-07-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
that (might) need a security update. Obviously I build them in a jessie chroot, but it seems like overkill to do that for the initial source download too. And back when I was doing triage for Debian LTS I wouldn't build at all - I would only look at the source to see if a bug was present in the ol

Re: Packaging Games with In-App Purchases

2019-07-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
y and other programs/games with > IAPs? > > Cheers, Bagas > -- Ben Hutchings friends: People who know you well, but like you anyway. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: systemd services that are not equivalent to LSB init scripts

2019-07-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
> privileged. But I would not go that route as I see it as destructive > one. [...] We can't force individual developers to do anything, and yet we manage to release with a large number of packages that mostly follow policy. If it's our policy that packages must support cron (

Re: git & Debian packaging sprint report

2019-07-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
kages. See <https://manpages.debian.org/buster/cgit/cgitrc.5.en.html#SIGNATURES> and the "git-archive-signer" script in <https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mricon/korg-helpers.git/>. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings If God had intended Man to program, we'd have been born with serial I/O ports. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: default firewall utility changes for Debian 11 bullseye

2019-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
ssages aren't very helpful. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings If God had intended Man to program, we'd have been born with serial I/O ports. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Bug#932769: [moreinfo] DoS via DHCP request

2019-07-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
P if you net-boot without an initramfs. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings You can't have everything. Where would you put it? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bypassing the 2/3/4GB virtual memory space on 32-bit ports

2019-08-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
ny comments, ideas, or help here? [...] 1a. Require 32-bit build environments to be multiarch with the related 64-bit architecture also enabled. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Experience is directly proportional to the value of equipment destroyed - Carolyn Scheppner signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bypassing the 2/3/4GB virtual memory space on 32-bit ports

2019-08-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2019-08-09 at 00:28 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On 2019-08-08 22:23, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] > > 1a. Require 32-bit build environments to be multiarch with the > > related 64-bit architecture also enabled. > > Indeed, but that looks like the first step. Fr

Re: dput problem: Ancient sha256sum?

2019-08-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
_0.17.orig.tar.gz, but the file differs: > in dsc: 82c115920b5570e1e33c613b008736086db210bc8f9b2c2e75f970e9696d8ec5 > found: 64ca6eeb1d646e9992b134b4c89c7b0da5d2f9e141d03ffe29ff76729c4a4975 > > Please, rebuild your package against the correct file. > > Please try to fix it and re-upload. Thanks, > > -- mentors.debian.n

Re: Handling of entropy during boot

2019-09-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
nstall haveged, and > this helps for general cases. But then I have corner cases like when > the root filesystem is readonly then haveged doesn't work. > > I'm not using ancient hardware I'm on a modern arm64 processor, but it > is an embedded environment with no keyboard or

Bug#1041643: ITP: ktls-utils -- TLS handshake utilities for in-kernel TLS consumers

2023-07-21 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-ker...@lists.debian.org, Steve Dickson , Chuck Lever III * Package name: ktls-utils Version : 0.9 Upstream Contact: kernel-tls-handsh...@lists.linux.dev * URL

Re: HFS/HFS+ are insecure

2023-07-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
ee we should not have UDisks probing for any of the (many) kernel filesystems that aren't being actively maintained including responding to security issues. Beyond that, I would also like to see libmount limiting the filesystems that it will probe when the fstab type is "auto". But

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
-compatible). [...] ENDBR32 uses one of the previously reserved hint encodings that i686 processors are supposed to ignore if they don't specifically support them. The release notes for Debian 12 "bookworm" state that the i386 architecture now requires that: https://www.debian.org

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 20:03 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 10:57 -0500, Justin wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I have recently encountered a case where a VIA C3 Nehemaiah CPU returns > > "Illegal > > Instruction" when trying to

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2023-10-18 at 14:01 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 20:03 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 10:57 -0500, Justin wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I have recently encountered a case where a VIA C3 N

Re: About i386 support

2024-05-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
this point. > > The T60 will do amd64. [...] According to thinkwiki, the T60 had CPU options of Core Solo/Duo (32- bit) and Core 2 Duo (64-bit) CPUs, so this may or may not be correct. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Horngren's Observation: Among economists, the real world is often a special case. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Suggestions about i386 support

2024-05-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
erry Trail devices in Debian amd64. Bookworm has added it (moved it from > multi-arch iso to amd64 isos), but trixie seems to be dropping it. If Debian > thinks 2015 is ancient enough in 2025, this suggestions can be ommited. [...] You should ask about that on the debian-cd or debian-boot list.

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