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>
> The 3th of April?
Precisely. Three/four days from now.
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> > > > attend DebConf before the 3th April 2006, 23:59:59 UTC
e packages in
which most other packages depend, and it's one of the least trivial
ones to get right. You can be almost sure that many things will break
if you prefer to use an X server not provided by Debian - So the
answer is right, why would you want to use XFree now?
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There is no xorg 7.0 backport yet, and I fear it will not be easy to
add one (as the Debian xorg 7.0 introduced _major_ packaging changes,
if somebody puts up a backport it will probably be completely made
from scratch to behave as
wo weeks after Sarge had frozen.
I also suggest you to use experimental for this. If you want a wider
test base, maybe set up an unofficial repository and publicize it.
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As for Madduck: I hold as a proof of his identity his book, which has
a photo of him, and I have since Debconf6. It's possible, but still
very hard, to go through all the work to write a book and put your
photo in it just to impersonate somebody :)
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that your passport does not show the fact
you were to that country. I have seen this both in Cuba and in
Israel.
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ten places at the same time for the whole time over two weeks :) It
might be enough proof for some people that I am Gunnar Wolf - With or
without an ID.
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who you _know_personally_ and less
about who has shown a real-or-fake-ID to you.
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some questions asked, some delays involved, but no
detailed background checks. I'm sure neither the FBI or the CIA (or,
as for Mexican authorities, CISEN or PGR) were involved.
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KSPs, if we continue to hold them: Many of us have our photo as
part of our key. Maybe if the printed sheet was not plain-text but
included those photos that are available, it would be at least a
slight improvement?
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x27;t have any document
which many of the KSP attendees would recognize as an official ID, and
there was quite a bitter argument regarding their bank cards with
pictures - And there were not just one or two, there were _many_
locals showing their IDs.
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Mexico, and once my passport expired, I had to go through the military
service to get a new one.
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skip the KSP
if it happens as it happened this time (and as in the other proposals
I've seen).
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ultiuser (i.e. LTSP). Its users will
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, I consider them as programs.
Some people have pointed out that other PHP programs go to /usr/share
as well. Just to complement: Perl modules also get installed to
/usr/share if they are not architecture-specific. Python seems not to
be that way, as its standard sys.path does not include /usr/shar
2004-12-15/2004-12-21/0
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OpenBSD's aggressiveness. [EMAIL PROTECTED] can be a huge flamefest,
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dules will be group-maintained - I will upload them,
but they will be part of the pkg-perl group's repository.
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't point me to it ;-) ) who
advocated a person with such a delicate skin to enter NM. I mean, NM
is for people who are _already_ somewhat involved in Debian... And if
a little aggressivity puts you off that badly, then...
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a clear line, but I
expect NM to filter people cleanly. I mean, I would not expect
everybody to be a heavy d-d poster, but yes to at least be moderately
interested in it, to follow d-d, to understand how we DDs are, and not
to be pissed off just because one of us decided to call you a moron.
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ome time :)
- It is the Christmas Island, I understand that an Australian
protectorate, between Australia and Indonesia.
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he needs to
rebuild the kernel using a debconf dialog or by mailing him...
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icy for HIS work.
Menu systems, IMHO, are the task of a distribution - a way to organize a
collection of software. They should not be the task of individual
developers.
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be split in many flavors (i.e. strict 386, 486 and up, 686, or whatever
you fancy). And I am sure this can somehow help maintain the non-Linux
ports - NetBSD gives us the potential to bring Debian to _many_ new
platforms.
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description of stunnel3 explaining the situation and urging
users to upgrade if possible.
Even more, stunnel3 and stunnel4 can coexist - and some users will find
it very valuable to have both the newest stunnel features and the ease
of keeping their old configurations, or not having to be ro
-)
Next Debconf is scheduled to be held in Vancouver, Canada. Some people
were talking me into proposing Mexico for a future Debconf, but I don't
think it would be that good an idea until we had some more developers in
the country, but... Maybe for 2006? :-)
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Joshua Kwan dijo [Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 05:35:51PM -0700]:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:22:00PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > Next Debconf is scheduled to be held in Vancouver, Canada. Some people
> > were talking me into proposing Mexico for a future Debconf, but I don't
> &
n to Nuevo Laredo once, and it scared me - And a
friend from that area told me it is among the best :-/
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Jonathan Walther dijo [Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 07:51:12PM -0700]:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 08:36:15PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> >Tijuana?!
> >Being curious... What would you expect to find in Tijuana?
>
> Cheap hotels, cheap booze, cheap food, and cheap whores. :-)
More or
t; the conference to be held somewhere that would accomodate an
> archaeological daytrip...
Well, we have everything in The City! ;-)
...But I'm shutting up for at least one more year. 2006 is still far off.
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rlines and so on.
>
> All that could be taken care of by arranging some common transportation.
Also, trains in Europe are quite nice, some of them are quite fast, not
as expensive as airlines... Plus, a nice and large Debian team could go
together from LinuxTag to Vienna... The train company
xecutable files under /etc, they belong to the
most varied programs... And they are (or at least, they seem to be)
perfectly valid configurable files. (most of them - see my next message)
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y a binary, it is clearly not user-modifiable. Should it
be in /etc? Should it just be a symlink to /usr/lib/xutils or something
like it?
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require a MTA to work. On
the other hand, mutt can work in a more mundane environment with a
remote IMAP server. Yes, a MTA is required to send mail, and is thus
strongly recommended - but not having one does not render the package
unusable, so it is not really depending on it.
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very important user base, we are obliged
not to give them such a headache.
Besides, I really doubt that even one tenth of the Debian developers
would be happy to switch ;-)
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GTK+, file selector boxes allow for tab completion.
... So vim is just vi becoming Emacs? I know the hard-core vi guys just
hated Ctrl-combinations.
Anyway, this thread is not about editor wars. The flames are set on user
friendliness. Back on topic... :)
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ompassing our 'control' and 'rules' files) and,
optionally, some patches.
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not
shipping with kernel 2.6 by default would seem odd. But by then, KDE 3.3
would be knocking the door...
Please, this is Debian. We do not need no shiny new versions of neither
${package} nor ${subsystem}.
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nterest) to debate their decision - and they are mostly people who
most of us hold in quite a nice position.
Now, why am I insisting in quoting the 'bigots'? Because they care.
Because being involved in all those convoluted discussions in our
behalf, in subjects we all care about
think it is right - The 'former Iron
Curtain' countries (if I understand correctly, meaning 'the countries
that were behind te Iron Curtain' include Germany(west), France, USA,
UK and the Netherlands :-)
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ot;Good job!" (okay, okay, I admit, this only about 0.0001% of all
>feedback)
Keep up with the good job, Branden! Go get'em all!
(is it at least 0.003% already? :) )
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n ignored bug
> reports and problems for the project?
Description, with the possible addition of a note in README.Debian would
be better - it is targetted at the user. Bugs are targetted to the
maintainer, and most users will not be aware of them.
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elease: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux jerx 2.4.21-gwolf #1 Fri Jun 27 13:04:09 CDT 2003 i686
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receiving this
extra information. Some users might find it even useful. Some fellow
developers might be interested in knowing how did you do it.
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ware, by not listing non-free in his sources.list (I know
that listing contrib but not non-free will lead to broken packages,
but... A user might do it). He might even be running vrms - and vrms
will not complain about the non-free software he has installed!
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tmp or /var/tmp (of course, excercising enough
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phaning this package? Is anyone
willing to adopt it? It is a base package, priority required for m68k,
and otherosfs priority: extra for all other architectures.
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been sent. If you suddenly send a 5xx error code,
the client might never receive it. You may close the connection, but th
client might then retry - and consume your bandwith over and over.
Greetings,
[1] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0821.txt
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Steve Lamb dijo [Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:21:05PM -0700]:
> Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [1] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0821.txt
>
> And what does RFC2821 have to say about it?
I would not trust every MTA to implement newer versions of the RFC -
Howeve
Steve Lamb dijo [Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:29:51AM -0700]:
> Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Steve Lamb dijo [Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:21:05PM -0700]:
> > > Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > [1] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0821.txt
>
to stop every mail which is (peeking at my
inbox) between 1887 and 2183 bytes long just because it might be a
virus?
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1889 lines is about 140k
> on the one I just received.
Are they? hmmm... Ok, that weakens my statement ;-) But anyway, there
are way too many 140K legitimate messages.
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* Package name: libhtml-template-associate-perl
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's position... I am very fond of
dselect's way of organizing its listings.
Maybe we should ask the user at first boot if he wishes to use tasksel,
dselect, aptitude or none-of-the-above, instead of going just tasksel
and dselect... But, yes, that would increase the footprint of our bas
the world and the
surrounding regions?)
Any new upstream verison needs to be compiled specifically for stable,
and pushed through proposed-updates or something similar.
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eudo-stable flavors (you can probably take the
'hundreds' quite literally at the end of a release cycle). We should
strive to have _one_ stable distribution - If for nothing else, for
the ability of reliably upgrading.
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> it?
The OBSD crowd have reimplemented many important subsystems because
they do not consider GPL-like licenses to be free enough. Yes, also
because of technical reasons, but in this case it seems to be about
(their version of) freedom.
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gt; buildds lagging or breaking and people bothering them about it.
Huh? Would an off-the-shelf old 1.5GHz P4 lag behind a top-of-the-line
m68k or ARM? Would it break more often than a MIPS?
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g - You cannot be sure, of course. This, also, cannot
become policy, as it cannot be checked... But I feel this is common
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ebian will probably need
> to include the package, but we will also have to make sure it doesn't
> get called "cvs" (since it is going to have a different interface),
> and we'll have to do extra integration work. Joy.
Completely AOL.
Greeetings,
[1] http://www.openb
urprisingly!) 132.248.181.148
(ftp.mx.debian.org - on a 100Mbps link from here ;-) )
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There is another mirror in unam.mx (132.248.182.159), but it's only
for certain architectures.
I truly don't understand how deb.cdn.araki.net is mapped to be close
to us :)
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s, you could hardly find animals living as far
apart as polar bears and penguins. A polar bear has to swim/walk close
to 15,000Km (as neither lives really on the poles, right?) to find a
decent penguin.
Bah, mascots.
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l and the CPAN rock my world, although my programming is
nowadays mostly Ruby-based. The Ruby general mindset is WAY inferior.
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y break most of our cultural myths/icons :)
> (Also, it's a bloody mascot, who cares if they don't /really/ live in
> the same locations. They live in the same /climate/ and that's good
> enough for most people.)
I do not care for a Debian mascot. The whole thread should bel
to keep track of over
670 packages without automated tools.
What really brings me down is that this is impossible in communities
such as the Ruby one, which uses a incoherent and brain-dead packaging
format, and insists on shoving it on distributions' throats. Bah.
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fnord, lighttpd, micro-httpd,
mini-httpd or thttpd. What does it do better than any of them? Or
worse? Or different?
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the goddamn difference. That's extremely unhelpful from
us. We should tell the prospective user at a first glance why he wants
one httpd over another.
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eceive proper security team and QA attention.
> (...)
Why not instead call it http://www.apt-get.org?
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on a much more serious tone: I do not trust anyone (hell, I
often don't even trust myself! My hat off to our always kind
ftp-masters) to check for proper licensing terms. And we cannot afford
to have non-distributable or otherwise illegal content distributed
from within Debian, however unofficial i
oked ISO files for download.
/me throws question at the void: Would it be feasible to get something
akin to an inverse-FUSE that presents ISO files in the presence of the
individual debs and Jigdo files? Yes, it would probably be much more
processor-intensive than just downloading a file, so I m
and establishing connections.
It does. I ran Jigdo for i386 DVD 1 some months ago for a person that
requested it from me. We have ftp.mx.debian.org in our university
network, and I have theoretically a 100Mbps link to it (really it's
about 8Mbps, but who am I to complain?). It was a bus
xample there's now a scandinavian telivision station that's starting
> to distribute shows through bittorrent, we also already have debtorrent)
I do know, and I do think the idea is a darn good one. Several ISPs,
however, only see you are sharing via P2P - and might charge you extra
o
cted, as it is a lower version.
I have not touched the package for three years at last. Tell me, don't
you think this should trigger some QA alarms? At very least, I'd agree
with you uploading 1.~1+etch1. That way, when I'm finally done with my
Precious 1.1 release, I can still pr
hat stopped status)
> :-)
Umh... Well, if the init script detects the service is still running
after it tried to stop it, _then_ it can return failure
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uration. Do you think cherokee-admin should be started at boot
time? (of course, this would be done using a separate initscript)
Thanks for your comments.
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But do make sure the
upstream tarball does not include the RFCs themselves, as they are
non-free.
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n it do with the
> > packets.
>
> "With Net::DHCP you can create and analyze DHCP packets which are sent
> or received with the help of IO::Socket::INET."
>
> I'll update the package description in svn tomorrow. Do you think this
> sentence is descriptive enought?
Yo
, there is no way I can present a
side-by-side diff... Unless I continue shipping my 0.5.x config file,
just for comparison sake...
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didn't get along well, at least, in this scope)? Ok, so be it. But in
the end, I _know_ they both put all their effort into making Debian
evolve.
I am nobody to judge you, specially given my lower activity level of
the last months in the project.
o be downloaded... So,
even with pipelining and all, storing too many diffs becomes
irrelevant.
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ncluding a "the
maintainer shuold not modify files outside of the debian/ directory
without a strong rationale", and provide lintian checks for packages
still directly modifying upstream code...
It can become a long transition, but a good one in the end, /methinks.
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good maintainer would split and name that in
debian/patches/01_fixes_blah, debian/patches/02_foo and so on, and in
each of the files' headers would note what bug or issue is this patch
addressing. And we can make tools understand said headers - and
complain if an unexplained patch was found
ginate is aimed at being used from the Ruby on Rails framework.
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lem that
> was caused by an (IMHO unnecessary and boring) call because of
> the trigger feature.
This, however, is an interesting point to work on - Of course, it
should be fixed by making more robust the processes that are
triggered, not by removing a feature by labelling it as a bug!
ge? I think everybody will be
better off that way...
(of course, keeping Ed in the Cc: - Ed, are you still interested in
this package? Would you oppose Jordi taking over?)
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Andrea Bolognani dijo [Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 05:03:37PM +0200]:
> We haven't got multiarch yet, and you ask for multibanjos support already?
>
> That's pretty rude if you ask me.
But bibanjo can perfectly solve the needs at hand, with the hardware
at hand.
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tibility. We users of Latin-based alphabets migrate easily to
UTF8, with occassional problems where we use diacritics. Eastern Asian
encodings are _completely_ incompatible with UTF8, so it is just not
possible to tolerate broken text every now and then. Everything just
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g output into the terminal as input). Now... Well, printing
an unprintable string can cause segfaults in some cases.
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BTW, reiterating so much on when Ubuntu is, when DebConf is and all
that... Is just too reiterative, if you allow me to reiterate ;-)
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m not familiar with the procedure,
but I suppose a debian/control field would indicate whether this
package allows being built as a .ddeb (as there would be no way
i.e. to build a Perl module as a ddeb)
• Less namespace explosion. We would get rid of all the -debug
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ools must be aware of it. And apt should know
-before updating or whatnot- that a package was installed from a ddeb,
if they are to share the base name. But I feel ddebs will allow
debugging packages creation and installation to take place in a much
more transparent, automatic fashion. I think this w
in a public location?
> > What's wrong with /usr/lib/debug/build-id?
> >
> > I don't think the unnecessary obfuscation is warranted.
>
> Because that is where gdb looks for them.
Umh, and for human joy, adding a symlink at
/usr/lib/debug/lib_or_binary_with
as well: If a user has his apt{-get,itude}
configured to auto-install Suggests:, it should also auto-install
reverse-Enhances:, right?
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ove on. How should I proceed
with this?
Greetings,
¹
http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/cherokee.git;a=blob;f=debian/cherokee.preinst;h=0c39283a3d883ff68958410b8b41d0ca8b8f547c;hb=HEAD
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e to do
packaging-specific changes while keeping track of your upstream
releases?
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Wouter Verhelst dijo [Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:01:47AM +0200]:
> On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 06:29:31PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > Why should it be Debian-native?
>
> I never said it *should* be. I said it *could* be, and that whether or
> not it is should be the maintainer&#
are_ formally right, I would rather not
come down with a harsh message at someone who is not really hurting
any of us except for failing to provide a link back. Even the place's
name is clearly personal!
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hich adds
very, very little real value.
...Or possibly we could decide on renaming /bin/ls to /bin/ls.elf in
order to show what kind of file it is, and allowing for different
implementations to coexist?
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