On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:12:32AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> There is a different between "I don't care about portability" and "I
> won't accept any patches that are only useful on non-Linux platforms".
> The former could be remedied by submitting documented and maintained
> patches, which saves
On Mon, March 5, 2012 08:40, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 10:59:39PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>> Looking at the front page of http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ today,
>> I don't see a clear statement that it is unofficial.
> I also find disturbing that the website seeks f
Hi Daniele and Norbert,
On 03/05/2012 06:02 AM, Daniele Tricoli wrote:
> Norbert Preining is working on TexLive 2012 for Debian. The following
> packages need an NMU (already prepared) to proceed:
> fonts-tlwg
> musixtex
>
> So I'm asking to you if Norbert can go along and NMU your packages.
Wo
2012/3/5 Stefano Zacchiroli :
> What we need, though, is probably to make it more clear to our users
> what is the difference among *.debian.net and *.debian.org services. It
> is something that developers know by folklore, but that I seriously
> doubt most of our users know. For me, the most appro
On 03/05/2012 06:27 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
> Perhaps a few strongers words were used than neccessary, but
> honestly "crap" is not a word one should be afraid to see.
>
And IMO, it's Fabian's right to say that VLC package from d-m.o
is "crappy", because introducing an epoc, which messes with
hi
On 03/05/2012 03:40 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> But before getting there, the question is whether the existence of the
> website (and its popularity) poses problem to Debian reputation and/or
> to the activity of official Debian multimedia packaging. I think this is
> a question for the Debian
Hi,
Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 03/05/2012 03:40 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
But before getting there, the question is whether the existence of the
website (and its popularity) poses problem to Debian reputation and/or
to the activity of official Debian multimedia packaging. I think this is
a qu
Florian Reitmeir writes:
> to expect that any third-party package archive is "stable" enough to
> survive an debian dist-upgrade is just brave.
It can be done, though, and it should be the norm. That it is not so,
that's unfortunate, and something we (both the Debian maintainers and
the third-pa
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:14:04 +0200, Riku Voipio
wrote:
>On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:12:32AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> There is a different between "I don't care about portability" and "I
>> won't accept any patches that are only useful on non-Linux platforms".
>
>> The former could be remedied by
On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 16:54:22 +0100, Matthias Klumpp
wrote:
>No, and that's why this is an issue very specific to Debian. But the
>above examples show, that systemd (or upstart) can bring many useful
>features and improvements to Linux platforms.
Should Debian restrict itself to being a Linux platf
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 17:56, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/05/2012 03:40 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > But before getting there, the question is whether the existence of the
> > website (and its popularity) poses problem to Debian reputation and/or
> > to the activity of official Debian multime
Le Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 11:51:35AM +, Tim Booth a écrit :
>
> I'll be up at the EBI in a couple of weeks. Is there anything I can do
> to try and persuade them to grant an acceptable license or has this
> already been tried? EMBOSS is a software package that I still consider
> to be very imp
Sorry for the noise, sometimes Mutt is really too powerful.
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> I do think this website hurts Debian, and its user community.
> Let me explain, it's based on my past *user* experience.
> But I've seen multiple instances of this issue over the years, on both
> desktop and server side.
You added debian-multimedia in a server system? If i were you i would sta
Le 3/5/12 1:25 PM, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> Le Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 11:51:35AM +, Tim Booth a écrit :
>> I'll be up at the EBI in a couple of weeks. Is there anything I can do
>> to try and persuade them to grant an acceptable license or has this
>> already been tried? EMBOSS is a softwar
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> What we need, though, is probably to make it more clear to our users
> what is the difference among *.debian.net and *.debian.org services. It
> is something that developers know by folklore, but that I seriously
> doubt most of our users
On 03/05/2012 06:26 PM, Florian Reitmeir wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 03/05/2012 03:40 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>>> But before getting there, the question is whether the existence of the
>>> website (and its popularity) poses problem to Debian reputation and/or
>>> to the activ
On Mar 05, Marc Haber wrote:
> Should Debian restrict itself to being a Linux platform just to have
> systemd?
If it is worth it, yes.
Should Debian reject using just to support toy ports which are used by a dozen of people?
> Debian being a platform which is frequently used for low-powered,
>
On 03/05/2012 06:52 PM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
> I don't agree with you here.
> For me d-m.o was (and still is) valuable resource.
> Some codecs missing in Debian packages because of the policy (I don't
> blame Debian for that) and in that case d-m.o is best option for me
> because I don't want/hav
On 03/05/2012 08:51 PM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
>> But I've seen multiple instances of this issue over the years, on both
>> desktop and server side.
>>
> You added debian-multimedia in a server system? If i were you i would start
> by
> blaming myself for the problems.
>
Not me, my custo
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On 05.03.2012 14:31, Fernando Lemos wrote:
> I believe people don't go to http://www.debian.net/ often, as it
> redirects to http://www.debian.org/. If we come up with a splash
> for debian.net, people that visit mentors.debian.net, for example,
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Arno Töll wrote:
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> On 05.03.2012 14:31, Fernando Lemos wrote:
>> I believe people don't go to http://www.debian.net/ often, as it
>> redirects to http://www.debian.org/. If we come up with a splash
>> for
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On 05.03.2012 15:17, Fernando Lemos wrote:
> Please note nobody is comparing m.d.n to d.m.o. There are two
> discussions going on in this thread.
I noted. That said, people still take debian.net domains in general
and mentors.d.n in particular a
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This means that you claim that the pr
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 03:32:23PM +0100, Arno Töll wrote:
> I noted. That said, people still take debian.net domains in general
> and mentors.d.n in particular as an example how people (ab-)use Debian
> trademarks among different non-affiliated projects despite of being
> entirely orthogonal targe
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On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 09:49:18PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/05/2012 08:51 PM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> >> But I've seen multiple instances of this issue over the years, on both
> >> desktop and server side.
> >>
> > You added debian-multimedia in a server system? If i were you i would s
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
>> But before getting there, the question is whether the existence of the
>> website (and its popularity) poses problem to Debian reputation and/or
>> to the activity of official Debian multimedia packaging. I think this is
>> a question for
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
> For me d-m.o was (and still is) valuable resource.
> Some codecs missing in Debian packages because of the policy (I don't
> blame Debian for that) and in that case d-m.o is best option for me
> because I don't want/have time to package it
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On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> Out of curiousity, what codecs do you miss in the official debian packages?
The Voxware decoder is the one codec I've encountered that doesn't
work in Debian. AFAICT there is no free decoder for it and the Windows
DLL from w32-codecs is n
On 12-03-05 at 04:32pm, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 09:49:18PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > On 03/05/2012 08:51 PM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> > >> But I've seen multiple instances of this issue over the years, on
> > >> both desktop and server side.
> > >>
> > > You added deb
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 16:45, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
> > For me d-m.o was (and still is) valuable resource.
> > Some codecs missing in Debian packages because of the policy (I don't
> > blame Debian for that) and in that case d-m.o is best
On Mar 5, 2012 11:00 AM, "Paul Wise" wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
>
> > Out of curiousity, what codecs do you miss in the official debian
packages?
>
> The Voxware decoder is the one codec I've encountered that doesn't
> work in Debian. AFAICT there is no fre
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
>> For me d-m.o was (and still is) valuable resource.
>> Some codecs missing in Debian packages because of the policy (I don't
>> blame Debian for that) and in that case d-m.o is best
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
>>> For me d-m.o was (and still is) valuable resource.
>>> Some codecs missing in Debian packages because of the policy (I d
Reinhard Tartler writes:
> the libdvdread maintainer removed that really handy script.
Not really related but it did have a security issue:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554772
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On 2012-03-05, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> This is not a codec but a software package that cracks an encryption
> algorithm. It has been packaged for debian proper, uploaded and got
> rejected by ftp-master. BTW, the reason did not involve patents,
> AFAIUI.
The reason being what? We have ZIP pass
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
For me d-m.o was (and still is) valuable resource.
S
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 08:09:47PM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
> The reason being what? We have ZIP password crackers in the archive,
> too.
Cracking ZIP passwords doesn't fall under the auspices of DMCA or your
equivalent $county_specific_law (and there are quite a few around the
world, unfortuna
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:42:50PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> In summary, I can only advise everyone against enabling that
> repository on any machine.
If I would have time to become a pkg-multimedia member I would try to
establish installing multimedia applications via metapackages build be
* Stefano Zacchiroli [2012-03-05 08:40 +0100]:
> On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 10:59:39PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> While we are at it, I also think we should provide an index of
> *.debian.net entries on that splash page.
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNetDomains is just too prone to outdateness
> a
On 12-03-05 at 11:04pm, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:42:50PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> > In summary, I can only advise everyone against enabling that
> > repository on any machine.
>
> If I would have time to become a pkg-multimedia member I would try to
> establish i
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > In other words, if not for Christian Marillat's work, your customer
> > would either be unable to do this on Debian, or, assuming enough
> > technical knowledge, have to beat upstream packages into working.
>
> ...or use another source which plays
On 12-03-06 at 11:33am, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > In other words, if not for Christian Marillat's work, your
> > > customer would either be unable to do this on Debian, or, assuming
> > > enough technical knowledge, have to beat upstream packages in
On Di, 06 Mär 2012, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > the Blends framework. I would most probably drop some file
> >
> >/etc/apt/preferences.d/01-disable-dmo.pref
> >
> > in multimedia-config metapackage (where all other metapackages usually
And I would file a serious bug against that. There is
Reinhard Tartler writes:
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
>> For me d-m.o was (and still is) valuable resource.
>> Some codecs missing in Debian packages because of the policy (I don't
>> blame Debian for that) and in that case d-m.o is best option for me
>> because I don
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Andres Mejia wrote:
> MDL should be supported by libmodplug, which gstreamer uses.
The symptoms I am seeing are that Rhythmbox says "The MIME type of the
file could not be identified". I guess I need to file a bug against
file since file --mime-type returns applica
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Miles Bader wrote:
> Er ... MP3 encoding ?
>
> [Is that available in debian-official now?]
lame is in squeeze-backports and later:
http://packages.debian.org/lame
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On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 02:44:45PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Mar 05, Marc Haber wrote:
>
> > Should Debian restrict itself to being a Linux platform just to have
> > systemd?
> If it is worth it, yes.
>
> Should Debian reject using component> just to support toy ports which are used by a
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:07:37 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
...
> So far, I haven't seen any features in systemd that outweigh those. And
> the fact that upstream is lazy and doesn't want to do this portability
> thing shouldn't mean we should throw out our other ports.
I know it's already been men
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 12:30:02AM +0100, Carsten Hey wrote:
> In a non-public mail, Rhonda explained an argument against publishing
> such automatically generated lists. A short summary is:
> An other argument against publishing the list is that this information
> used to be non-public. Publish
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:07:37AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> So far, I haven't seen any features in systemd that outweigh those. And
> the fact that upstream is lazy and doesn't want to do this portability
> thing shouldn't mean we should throw out our other ports.
Er, let's not call upstrea
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Now, is anyone against publishing the list of debian.net entries and the
> entry <-> registrant association (provided the above conditions are
> met)?
That is already published in DNS:
pabs@chianamo ~ $ dig -t txt mentors.debian.net | g
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