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As I'm running unstable I sometimes find bugs in applications. Now it would be
very nice if there was some way to get the matching debug in
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:27:40AM +0200, Philipp Marek wrote:
> How about compiling all programs with debugging information, and strip them
> into a "-dbginfo" package, or something likewise for "apt-get source"? Like
> the "-dev" packages only people who think they need them would install
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:07:47AM +0200, Sebastian Harl wrote:
> Hi,
Hi tokkee :)
> This is already done for a number of packages. The package names should have
> the prefix -dbg and install all debugging symbols to /usr/lib/debug/ so
> they are installable with apt-get / aptitude just like any
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:16:12AM +0200, Mario Iseli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mhh'k... Archivesize... How many percent of the whole mirrorsize belong to
> -dbg
> packages?
Well, if the whole archive was to have debug packages, they would take a
significant amount of space.
Mike
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Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a reason to not use stable/testing/unstable as the names in
> config/suites file ?
>
> Currently it only has code names like etch/lenny/sid.
>
> Ritesh
Does it matter anywhere? You can use testing as suite name on
invocation and it
Mario Iseli wrote:
> True, true, true... I guess it's a good solution as we have it now, if the
> maintainer thinks a -dbg package would be useful, he/she can create one and
> provide it to the users. I personally wouldn't do that for smaller packages
> which are compiled on "normal modern i386 stu
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:27:40AM +0200, Philipp Marek wrote:
>
> Currently I'd have to recompile the packages myself, and installing them over
> the debian files - which is, depending on the package and its prerequisites,
> a major hazzle.
>
The package maintainers provide the debugging infor
On 10/8/07, Philipp Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I'm running unstable I sometimes find bugs in applications.
> Now it would be very nice if there was some way to get the
> matching debug information for the packages, so gdb could print
> a better backtrace, or eg. show exactly which line
Inspired by today's new upload of dpkg, I'm going to try doing a rebuild of
the archive using "dpkg-buildpackage -j3" and submit bugs as I find them.
The bugs will be wishlist for now, and I'll assign usertag
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:ftbfs-parallel to those bug reports for those
interested in trackin
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:53:05AM +, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> Inspired by today's new upload of dpkg, I'm going to try doing a rebuild of
> the archive using "dpkg-buildpackage -j3" and submit bugs as I find them.
> The bugs will be wishlist for now, and I'll assign usertag
> [EMAIL PROTEC
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 06:53:05AM -0400, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> Inspired by today's new upload of dpkg, I'm going to try doing a rebuild of
> the archive using "dpkg-buildpackage -j3" and submit bugs as I find them.
> The bugs will be wishlist for now, and I'll assign usertag
> [EMAIL PROTEC
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there a reason to not use stable/testing/unstable as the names in
>> config/suites file ?
>>
>> Currently it only has code names like etch/lenny/sid.
>>
>> Ritesh
>
> Does it matter anywhere? You can us
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:27:40AM +0200, Philipp Marek wrote:
> How about compiling all programs with debugging information, and strip them
> into a "-dbginfo" package, or something likewise for "apt-get source"? Like
> the "-dev" packages only people who think they need them would install them
On Monday 08 October 2007 07:49:09 am Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:53:05AM +, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> > Inspired by today's new upload of dpkg, I'm going to try doing a rebuild
> > of the archive using "dpkg-buildpackage -j3" and submit bugs as I find
> > them. The bugs
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 12:07:12PM +, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> On Monday 08 October 2007 07:49:09 am Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:53:05AM +, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> > > Inspired by today's new upload of dpkg, I'm going to try doing a rebuild
> > > of the archive us
* Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071008 05:46]:
> Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a reason to not use stable/testing/unstable as the names in
> > config/suites file ?
> >
> > Currently it only has code names like etch/lenny/sid.
> >
> > Ritesh
>
On Mon, Oct 8, 2007 at 11:51:12 +0200, Philipp Marek wrote:
> I'd assume it's not so much the binary size of the packages, but the
> number of them ... that's why I asked whether a new branch might be
> better for them. Like "stable", "testing", "unstable", "experimental"
> ... "dbginfo". Then n
On Monday 08 October 2007 07:50:58 am Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 06:53:05AM -0400, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> > Inspired by today's new upload of dpkg, I'm going to try doing a rebuild
> > of the archive using "dpkg-buildpackage -j3" and submit bugs as I find
> > them. The bug
>> Anyway, I'm aware a lot of packages will probably break at the moment, which
>> is why I'm using wishlist.
>
> I still believe that you should not file such bugs, I still fail to
> see how it improves debian, as if we really need to build more packages
> at the same time, we could run many
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 01:50:58PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> in the latter case, is there any conventional way to parse DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS?
> last time i read about it there were a couple of ways both having dark
> sides... ah.. BTW google is not able to provide me any documentation
> of DEB
> It's documented in Debian policy, but parallel hasn't been added there yet.
> I
> think the new dpkg-buildpackage -j passes
> DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=".
this sounds like it should not break things, as you have to evaluate
that manually. Or is there some magic which results into $(MAKE)
On Monday 08 October 2007 08:07:12 am Daniel Schepler wrote:
> Especially when the easy work-around, if you don't want to bother adding
> the proper dependencies to the make targets, is just to add ".NOPARALLEL:"
> somewhere in the Makefile.
Sorry, that should be ".NOTPARALLEL:".
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Hi
Dne Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:51:12 +0200
Philipp Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a):
> I'd assume it's not so much the binary size of the packages, but the number
> of
> them ... that's why I asked whether a new branch might be better for them.
> Like "stable", "testing", "unstable", "experimenta
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:21:22AM -0400, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> On Monday 08 October 2007 07:50:58 am Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> >
> > in the latter case, is there any conventional way to parse
> > DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS? last time i read about it there were a couple of ways
> > both having dark side
On Monday 08 October 2007 08:30:53 am Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 12:07:12PM +, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> > On Monday 08 October 2007 07:49:09 am Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:53:05AM +, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> > > > Inspired by today's new upl
On Monday 08 October 2007 08:39:21 am Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > It's documented in Debian policy, but parallel hasn't been added there
> > yet. I think the new dpkg-buildpackage -j passes
> > DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=".
>
> this sounds like it should not break things, as you have to evaluate
> t
On Monday 08 October 2007 08:30:53 am Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> I still believe that you should not file such bugs, I still fail to
> see how it improves debian, as if we really need to build more packages
> at the same time, we could run many sbuild instances on the same
> machine.
OK, how about
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:49:46PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:21:22AM -0400, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> > On Monday 08 October 2007 07:50:58 am Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> > >
> > > in the latter case, is there any conventional way to parse
> > > DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS? la
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:30:53PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> I still believe that you should not file such bugs, I still fail to
> see how it improves debian, as if we really need to build more packages
> at the same time, we could run many sbuild instances on the same
> machine.
It isn't
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 01:58:17PM +, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:30:53PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > I still believe that you should not file such bugs, I still fail to
> > see how it improves debian, as if we really need to build more packages
> > at the same
Hi
Dne Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:33:12 +0200
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a):
> That said, I believe most of the packages I package are autoconf/cmake
> based or are small enough so that a parallel build is useless, so I
> probably wont be annoyed here.
BTW: When mentioning CMake, are
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:39:59PM +, Michal Čihař wrote:
> Hi
>
> Dne Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:33:12 +0200
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a):
>
> > That said, I believe most of the packages I package are autoconf/cmake
> > based or are small enough so that a parallel build is usel
* Mike Hommey [Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:28:12 +0200]:
> Now, a bit OT, but i'd appreciate if dh_install would create hardlinks
> instead of copies.
I'd vote for that too, though if I'm not mistaken Joey refuses the idea.
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On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 04:50:09PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Mike Hommey [Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:28:12 +0200]:
>
> > Now, a bit OT, but i'd appreciate if dh_install would create hardlinks
> > instead of copies.
>
> I'd vote for that too, though if I'm not mistaken Joey refuses the idea.
>
I w
Hello
Dne Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:46:46 +0200
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a):
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:39:59PM +, Michal Čihař wrote:
> > BTW: When mentioning CMake, are there any known problems with parallel
> > build with it? I just randomly tried it last week and it seemed t
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:59:17AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 04:50:09PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > * Mike Hommey [Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:28:12 +0200]:
> >
> > > Now, a bit OT, but i'd appreciate if dh_install would create hardlinks
> > > inst
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 04:50:09PM +0200, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> * Mike Hommey [Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:28:12 +0200]:
>
> > Now, a bit OT, but i'd appreciate if dh_install would create hardlinks
> > instead of copies.
>
> I'd vote for that too, though if I'm not mistaken Joey ref
Am Dienstag, den 09.10.2007, 00:00 +0900 schrieb Michal Čihař:
> Hello
>
> Dne Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:46:46 +0200
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a):
>
> > On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:39:59PM +, Michal Čihař wrote:
> > > BTW: When mentioning CMake, are there any known problems with p
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On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 12:12:12AM +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> Is there a reason to not use stable/testing/unstable as the names in
> config/suites file ?
Yes. It needs to get the Release file before setting up the parts which
needs to know the codename. The code which did that was removed
On Monday 08 October 2007, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Does it matter anywhere? You can use testing as suite name on
> invocation and it will see that testing currently is lenny and use
> that.
I think it does.
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Severity: wishlist
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On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 07:30:09PM +0100, Sam Clegg wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Sam Clegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> * Package name: perforce
> Version : 2007.2-2
> Upstream Author : Perforce Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://www.perforc
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote:
> Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged
> for Debian, what is the point of adding another? Especially when it is
> non-free.
How about "people use it"? There's plenty of installations of
perforce
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 07:52:55PM +, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote:
> > Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged
> > for Debian, what is the point of adding another? Especially when it is
> > non-fre
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* Pierre Habouzit:
>> How about "people use it"? There's plenty of installations of
>> perforce;
>
> s/perforce/windows/ and the sentence is still true ;)
The Windows copyright is pretty restrictive AFAIK. If it weren't, I'm
certain we hould ship things like Virtualbox VMs in non-free because
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Seems to me that this depends on Perforce. D'oh.
>
> (I don't know anything about Perforce. Perhaps it's really dangerous
> software. But perhaps it's just non-free.)
Perforce is an absolutely *excellent* VCS with the unfortunate
distinction
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Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Mike Hommey [Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:28:12 +0200]:
>
>> Now, a bit OT, but i'd appreciate if dh_install would create hardlinks
>> instead of copies.
>
> I'd vote for that too, though if I'm not mistaken Joey refuses the idea.
M
OK, changes in dpkg-dev 1.14.7 have forced my hand a little and
dpkg-cross 2.0.0 has now been uploaded to Debian unstable (not
experimental) a little ahead of schedule.
apt-cross 0.2.9 has been uploaded to Emdebian unstable - dependent on
dpkg-cross >= 1.99 and is available to anyone using the emd
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:32:23PM +, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Pierre Habouzit:
> >> I think making it easier to use Debian with them is
> >> within the mandate for non-free.
> >
> > There is ways to interact with perforce in debian, in a free way:
> > git-p4 being one of them.
> | * The imp
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It looks like there are even more problems than I thought with the parallel
builds, so I won't be able to submit bugs on them all in a timely manner. So
for now, I've posted the build logs so far at
http://people.debian.org/~schepler/build-logs/ if you want to see the results
sooner. At this
Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 04:50:09PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
>> * Mike Hommey [Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:28:12 +0200]:
>>> Now, a bit OT, but i'd appreciate if dh_install would create hardlinks
>>> instead of copies.
>> I'd vote for that too, though if
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 04:50:09PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> >> * Mike Hommey [Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:28:12 +0200]:
>
> >>> Now, a bit OT, but i'd appreciate if dh_install would create hardlinks
> >>> i
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:30:37 +0200
Thomas Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Trivial example: a package that builds a binary which in turn is used to
> create some source files for later compile.
>
> If the source files don't have the binary as dependency, your build will
> break with parall
Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote:
>> Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged
>> for Debian, what is the point of adding another? Especially when it is
>> non-free.
>
> How about "people use it"? There's p
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 06:53:05 -0400, Daniel Schepler
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> Inspired by today's new upload of dpkg
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