[Jérôme Warnier]
> But why would you want to become a DD if you are not willing to
> maintain a package. Debian is just about maintaining packages.
Debian needs more than just people maintaining packages. We need
people working on translations, documentation, testing, web pages,
system administr
We (the Debian Octave Group, pkg-octave.alioth.d.o) are running into a
nasty problem regarding the Debian autobuilders. For some reason, one of
the previous uploads of the octave2.9 package has wrongly manipulated the
octave-config alternative and have let it in the manual status pointing
to an no
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> One example is .config maintainer scripts, some of which are quite complex
> and worth writing in a higher-level language than shell.
This is surely true; Steve Langasek asked if this was a real issue in
Ubuntu or merely a potential issue.
Granted if
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:40:55AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> I asked this question earlier, and no one answered. Are there .config
>> scripts being written in python today in Ubuntu? (Hmm, where are the python
>> bindings for debconf, and what e
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hey, "without any warranty" is at least a step up from "ABSOLUTELY NO
> WARRANTY", and the latter is even yelling at you.
Unfortunately, there are apparently genuine legal reasons for the all
caps. :(
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Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Scripsit Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> If they are also compiled with a toolchain unchanged from Debian,
>> the binaries can legitimately have the same Maintainer: field as in
>> Debian, because they are essentially the same package.
>
>> I
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In practice, it doesn't work out to mean the same thing, however. Most of
> the packages in universe are maintained only by the Debian maintainer, and
> propagated unmodified into Ubuntu. It is only when there is a specific
> motive to change the pack
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And unsurprisingly, it, too, doesn't have a straightforward answer. If a
> user reports such a bug to Ubuntu, it is approximately the domain of the
> MOTU team, in that they triage those bugs (on a time-available prioritized
> basis, across the entire
[Junichi Uekawa]
> 3. support for X. Some of my packages are command-line console tools,
>but many are actually graphical apps. It would be a plus to have
>some kind of interactive/noninteractive X-based testing.
Would xnee do the trick?
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 04:07:51PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 06:06:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:08:39PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> > > aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
> > > >mplayer has had an explicit warning from upstream that it
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:45:40PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:45:26 -0500, Christopher Martin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > So let's start again. Let's say that someone tried put forward a new
> > amendment in place of the old. This amendment makes clear its
> >
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:53:26AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > In practice, it doesn't work out to mean the same thing, however. Most of
> > the packages in universe are maintained only by the Debian maintainer, and
> > propagated unmodifie
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:53:26AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > In practice, it doesn't work out to mean the same thing, however. Most of
>> > the packages in universe are maintained only by the
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 03:44:12AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:53:26AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> >> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > In practice, it doesn't work out to mean the same t
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:00:52PM +0100, Bart Martens wrote:
> The Debian package flash-plugin is meant as an alternative or as a
> replacement for flashplugin-nonfree.
>
> Similarities: Both Debian packages are GPL, and download the .tar.gz
> from the Macromedia website to comply to the Macromed
Andrew writes:
> Aren't we in a similar situation with other stuff that is in main
> already? rsync springs to mind.
Don't forget the Linux kernel.
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Hi Debian developers,
Does any of you know about the status of Apache2?
I've send the message below to listed email address and I've asked at
IRC but I haven't received any response.
Hi Apache2 maintainers,
I've noticed there are a lot of bugs, see
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?
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Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> Hi Debian developers,
>
> Does any of you know about the status of Apache2?
It works flawlessly on several places where I have deployed it.
> I've send the message below to listed email address and I've asked at
> IRC but I haven't received any response.
[..]
> A lot o
On 1/21/06, Jeroen Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> > Hi Debian developers,
> >
> > Does any of you know about the status of Apache2?
>
> It works flawlessly on several places where I have deployed it.
>
> > I've send the message below to listed email address and I've
Hi,
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Maybe the debian policy should require
> -Werror-implicit-function-declaration in CFLAGS so as to avoid such
> issue?
Following that path would lead to -Wall -Werror :-P
I personally received some bug reports by Dann Frazier (dannf) f
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060120 13:31]:
> > user implies noexec, nosuid, and nodev unless overridden by subsequent
> > options according to the mount(8) manpage.
>
> Please always keep in mind that this only reduces the chance, but still
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:14:19AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> If you won't acknowledge that, then know that upstream also object to the
> name "python-base" for something which has a stripped-down standard library.
Both pythol-minimal and python-base sound to something an end user would
expect
#include
* Thomas Hood [Fri, Jan 20 2006, 10:32:06AM]:
> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > The compromise we struck with upstream was that we would not give
> > the user a system with a "broken" Python.
>
>
> So upstream objects to the separate packaging of python-minimal unless
> all of python is insta
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 10:25:41AM +0100, Rafael Laboissiere wrote:
> We (the Debian Octave Group, pkg-octave.alioth.d.o) are running into a
> nasty problem regarding the Debian autobuilders. For some reason, one of
> the previous uploads of the octave2.9 package has wrongly manipulated the
> octa
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> No, not yet. The promotion to Essential needed to happen prior to
>> writing any such scripts.
> Are there .config scripts written in other languages?
I would expect so, given that there are .config
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> No, not yet. The promotion to Essential needed to happen prior to
>>> writing any such scripts.
>
>> Are there .config scripts written in other languages?
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 01:48 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > One example is .config maintainer scripts, some of which are quite complex
> > and worth writing in a higher-level language than shell.
>
> This is surely true; Steve Langasek asked if
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 02:21:34PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Python is the "official" language of Ubuntu. If we want to merge work
> they're doing (Anthony Towns mentioned their work on boot speed, for
> example) it's a good idea to structure our Python like theirs is. This
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:48:11AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > One example is .config maintainer scripts, some of which are quite complex
> > and worth writing in a higher-level language than shell.
>
> This is surely true; Steve Langasek a
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:26:12 +1000, Anthony Towns
said:
> Why should it be a separate GR? That's seems both unnecessary and a
> bad idea; what's the point in overriding decisions about the GFDL,
> if it is then declared non-free anyway?
Well, here is one view of how things stand.
Iss
Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There's nothing that prevents us saying "we aren't going to support
> every high-level language" and stick to more than one (we already stick
> to two -- sh and Perl). It just means "I'd like to write scripts in X"
> alone isn't a good enough reason.
Ye
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Granted if it is a real issue, then why not use perl? Yes, I hate
>> perl too, but really, the argument "hey, people like Python too"
>> implies that we should have a scheme interpreter, a perl, a python,
>> emacs lisp, and well, everything anyone mi
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:04:25PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> Granted if it is a real issue, then why not use perl? Yes, I hate
> >> perl too, but really, the argument "hey, people like Python too"
> >> implies that we should have a sche
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:04:25PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> >> Granted if it is a real issue, then why not use perl? Yes, I hate
>> >> perl too, but really, the argument "hey, people like P
Don't reply to me directly. I should not have to tell you this.
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 13:03 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Python is the "official" language of Ubuntu. If we want to merge work
> > they're doing (Anthony Towns mentioned their work on boot speed, for
> > example) it's a good
Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We can burn those bridges when we come to them. Right now there's only
> one such distribution, with one such language, which has already done
> all the work to strip it down to a small size.
Scalability problems do not happen because someone failed to
I want to unistall callwave and stop getting billed for it.
Thankyou
Murphy Schrom
However, if you were to request it - either through a member of core-dev -
or through the person who last updated the package, then as long as
yourdebian package worked exactly as it is intended to in ubuntu - I'm sure
they'd not have a problem with syncing and using your package from debian.
The
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 07:01 -0600, Bill Allombert wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:00:52PM +0100, Bart Martens wrote:
[snip]
> Well, but flashplugin-nonfree at least make the users feel how painful
> nonfree software are to deal with. Quite a usefule feature if you ask
> me!
Is it, though, the
Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> On 1/21/06, Jeroen Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Olaf van der Spek wrote:
[..]
>>> A lot of those bugs are quite old and some appear to be trivial to
>>> fix, but they don't have a single response from you.
>>> Could you please tell why?
>> Most likely because the
Kevin Mark:
> Also, I was checking packages.ubuntu.com -> dapper -> base
> utils->bash->view Debian changelog and it was a dead link.
If you change the 'packages' in the URL to 'changelogs'
it works. I mailed Frank Lichtenheld about this yesterday.
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On 1/21/06, Jeroen Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> > On 1/21/06, Jeroen Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> [..]
> >>> A lot of those bugs are quite old and some appear to be trivial to
> >>> fix, but they don't have a single response fro
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 04:30:26PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 07:01 -0600, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:00:52PM +0100, Bart Martens wrote:
> [snip]
> > Well, but flashplugin-nonfree at least make the users feel how painful
> > nonfree software are to d
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 17:09 -0600, Bill Allombert wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 04:30:26PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 07:01 -0600, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:00:52PM +0100, Bart Martens wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > Well, but flashplugin-nonfree at
Frans Jessop wrote:
> Future [scenario:]
>
> There are now 10,000 DD's ...
I would assert that Debian as we know it cannot
have 10,000 DDs. Why not? For the same reason a
standing parliament cannot have 10,000 members, or an
industrial plant 10,000 workers. Try as we might, we
humans cannot sc
Hi,
> [Junichi Uekawa]
> > 3. support for X. Some of my packages are command-line console tools,
> >but many are actually graphical apps. It would be a plus to have
> >some kind of interactive/noninteractive X-based testing.
>
> Would xnee do the trick?
Actually, I wasn't aware of xnee.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 02:21:34PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 01:48 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > One example is .config maintainer scripts, some of which are quite complex
> > > and worth writing in a higher-level l
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