Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh (2015-04-02 21:52:50) > In this era of wider displays (even text-mode), it would make a lot of > sense to change its default display filter to include the archive by > default. > > FWIW, here's the display format I use in aptitude (changeable through > the Op

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015, at 16:43, The Wanderer wrote: > On 04/01/2015 at 12:02 PM, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > That sounds like you believe aptitude has only a command-line > > interface. > > I was indeed only aware of its command-line interface, until just > yesterday; comments in this thread mentio

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 31 mar 15, 17:29:25, Andrew Shadura wrote: > Hi, > > On 31 March 2015 at 17:00, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > I've grepped debian-devel, but cannot find an email that was sent to > > the list some months ago about tweaks to /etc/apt/apt.conf (IIRC) to > > make aptitude behave more sanely. >

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-01 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2015-04-01 20:43 The Wanderer: (Sorry for the delay in replying; I had a response within minutes, but I've been having bizarre Internet-access issues all day, and I'm not even sure they're gone yet.) On 04/01/2015 at 12:02 PM, Peter Samuelson wrote: [The Wanderer] it is IMO not viable for ac

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-01 Thread The Wanderer
(Sorry for the delay in replying; I had a response within minutes, but I've been having bizarre Internet-access issues all day, and I'm not even sure they're gone yet.) On 04/01/2015 at 12:02 PM, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [The Wanderer] > >> it is IMO not viable for actual use - except perhaps by

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-01 Thread Russ Allbery
The Wanderer writes: > I remember, years ago, I asked on some Debian list what the intended > replacement for apt-cache was, since I'd been told that apt-get was > deprecated in favor of aptitude and I'd seen that aptitude did not seem > to have equivalents for the apt-cache commands. For a whil

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
[The Wanderer] > it is IMO not viable for actual use - except perhaps by people who > already know completely what they are doing and how to override > aptitude's suggestions. That sounds like you believe aptitude has only a command-line interface. Mostly I use its full-screen interface. (To se

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2015-03-31 at 19:34 -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Note that this does not seem to be due to a lack of people willing to > work on it though, cf. #750135. Yeah, I was following that bug in silence ;-) Cheers, Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Mar 31 2015, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Tue, 2015-03-31 at 23:18 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> No, it is not. It used to be, but apt's dependency resolver is far >> superior to aptitude's these days. > Are there so many cases where you need it? I usually just select what I > want

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Wookey
+++ The Wanderer [2015-03-31 11:36 -0400]: > On 03/31/2015 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Shadura wrote: > > On 31 March 2015 at 17:00, Matt Zagrabelny > > wrote: > >> Thus, I believe there are a couple of knobs to turn to make > >> aptitude behave more expectedly. > > > > Here is it: > > > > $ cat /etc/ap

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2015-03-31 at 23:18 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > No, it is not. It used to be, but apt's dependency resolver is far > superior to aptitude's these days. Are there so many cases where you need it? I usually just select what I want and install it... IMHO aptitude is one of the hearts of

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:18:50AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > > I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. > > why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian installation? > > > > Ap

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Josh Triplett
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > It's tangential to the main topic of this thread, but you might want to > give /usr/bin/apt a try: it abstracts over apt-get / apt-cache, offering > a single CLI entry point to (some of) the functionalities of both. I've used the new apt tool, and I do find it quite an

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread The Wanderer
On 03/31/2015 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Shadura wrote: > Hi, > > On 31 March 2015 at 17:00, Matt Zagrabelny > wrote: > >> I've grepped debian-devel, but cannot find an email that was sent >> to the list some months ago about tweaks to /etc/apt/apt.conf >> (IIRC) to make aptitude behave more sanely. >

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hi, On 31 March 2015 at 17:00, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > I've grepped debian-devel, but cannot find an email that was sent to > the list some months ago about tweaks to /etc/apt/apt.conf (IIRC) to > make aptitude behave more sanely. > Thus, I believe there are a couple of knobs to turn to make ap

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:32 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > Repeatedly over the years - I'd almost say consistently - I've seen > aptitude report that a requested package change (install, remove, or > some combination) would result in an invalid or conflicting dependency > situation, and suggest a sol

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread The Wanderer
On 03/31/2015 at 09:18 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > >> I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, >> i.e. why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian >> installation? >> >> Aptitude isn't

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2015-03-31 15:18 GMT+02:00 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh : > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote: >> I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. >> why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian installation? >> >> Aptitude isn't recommended f

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 31.03.2015 um 15:18 schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote: >> I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. >> why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian installation? >> >> Aptitude isn't recommend

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 10:22, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:18:50AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > apt-get is the simple tool everyone knows about, though. It also needs > > another simple tools like apt-cache to be really usable. > > It's tangential to th

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:18:50AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > apt-get is the simple tool everyone knows about, though. It also needs > another simple tools like apt-cache to be really usable. It's tangential to the main topic of this thread, but you might want to give /usr/bin/apt

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. > why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian installation? > > Aptitude isn't recommended for dist-upgrading since Lenny, I think. > > Do we really nee

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:14:16 +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: >I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. >why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian installation? > >Aptitude isn't recommended for dist-upgrading since Lenny, I think. > >Do we really need

Re: aptitude dependency-resolver behaviors (was Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?)

2014-10-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 21 oct 14, 09:08:26, The Wanderer wrote: > > What I think is being asked for (and what I'd certainly like to see, > anyway) is a way for the user, having figured out which packages they > don't want removed, to tell the aptitude resolver that and have it taken > into account in calculating

Re: Aptitude best to ignore a dependency

2013-04-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> your question is better suited for one of the various support > channels. Including but not limited to the > debian-u...@lists.debian.org mailinglists, which are even available > in different languages. > Some quick answers anyway: Thanks I changed it from the user list at the last minute as

Re: Aptitude best to ignore a dependency

2013-04-18 Thread David Kalnischkies
Hi Kevin, your question is better suited for one of the various support channels. Including but not limited to the debian-u...@lists.debian.org mailinglists, which are even available in different languages. Some quick answers anyway: On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Doe

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-15 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 15 Okt 2011, Josh Triplett wrote: > quickly by using the "reject" and "approve" mechanism. When you view Thanks for that hint, yes, that works actually much better. No I only have to remember it ;-) Best wishes Norbert -

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-15 Thread Josh Triplett
Norbert Preining wrote: > In the current transition to gnome3 (or it seems) I press > U > to update all packages, and then it suggests me to remove 30 or > so packages. > > I know this game, normally I have to press "." a few times to come > to the solution that simply keeps some of the pa

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Marvin Renich wrote: > You can use "aptitude safe-upgrade --visual-preview", though this is not > particularly convenient when already running the aptitude cua. That was very useful, and actually works. Great. > You can also check out "Aptitude::Always-Use-Safe-Resolver". I a

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Jarek Kamiński wrote: > > Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? > > You can use aptitude --safe-resolver. Didn't work either ... still not getting the best result. I still get "6 removals, 1 keep" instead of "n keeps", and after 30 or so proposals all removin

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > priority set in /etc/apt/preferences? Mine looks like this and I Good point. Strange enough I have a *very* strange /etc/apt/preferences file that I don't remember to have *EVER* created: Package: * Pin: release a=unstable-i386 Pin-Priority: 400 Pac

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Jarek Kamiński
Na grupie linux.debian.devel napisałe(a)ś: >>> Is there such an option? And if not, can we please please have one? >> aptitude safe-upgrade has been around for years. > Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? You can use aptitude --safe-resolver. -- pozdr(); // Jarek -- To U

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Marvin Renich
* Miles Bader [111014 03:04]: > Paul Wise writes: > >> Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? > > > > Not AFAICT, I only read the documentation rather than the code though. > > Kinda surprising, actually; this has long been the #1 most horrible > thing about aptitude, and one ab

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Fabian Greffrath
how can I teach aptitude to not be sooo incredible stupid? In the current transition to gnome3 (or it seems) I press Maybe experimental (where gnome3 currently resides) has the wrong priority set in /etc/apt/preferences? Mine looks like this and I regularly upgrade (through apt-get, though) wi

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Miles Bader wrote: > [With the normal "U" command, for my typical usage, aptitude seems to > choose the worst possible solution about 98% of the time.] Agreed on that. What is the most typical scenario sid people are hitting, transitions in progress, and that is solved by keep

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Miles Bader
Paul Wise writes: >> Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? > > Not AFAICT, I only read the documentation rather than the code though. Kinda surprising, actually; this has long been the #1 most horrible thing about aptitude, and one about which there's been plenty of complaining.

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Norbert Preining wrote: > Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? Not AFAICT, I only read the documentation rather than the code though. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debia

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-13 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Paul, On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Paul Wise wrote: > > Is there such an option? And if not, can we please please have one? > > aptitude safe-upgrade has been around for years. Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? Best wishes Norbert ---

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Norbert Preining wrote: > Is there such an option? And if not, can we please please have one? aptitude safe-upgrade has been around for years. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-30 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Frans Pop] > Not really as these issues generally only occur when packages are > being *upgraded* using 'aptitude install ', not when they > are being newly installed. Sure, they might not happen a lot, but they also happen from within debian-installer. With Debian Edu/Squeeze, I recently notic

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-30 Thread Frans Pop
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Steve Langasek] >> Not only is apt-get now strong enough to handle the cases for which we >> recommended aptitude in the sarge timeframe (with much better resolution >> of upgrades, installation of Recommends by default, and tracking of >> auto-installed packages), but

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-30 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Steve Langasek] > Not only is apt-get now strong enough to handle the cases for which we > recommended aptitude in the sarge timeframe (with much better resolution of > upgrades, installation of Recommends by default, and tracking of > auto-installed packages), but aptitude has also had several d

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:13:11PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > So while raising Boost will "solve" the issue, it seems to me to be > a recipe for runaway priority inflation. > > Is there any central authority to vet priority changes? Indeed, I think this needs wider attention, next to the ap

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-18 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 02:38:50AM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote: > > - When I type 'aptitude install foo', *removing* foo instead of upgrading > is not a valid solution and should never be offered. It's still an outstanding (and irritating) bug as late as yesterday's sid... -- Jonathan Wi

Re: Aptitude wishlist bug with a package - how to get it merged?

2010-07-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote: > I've submitted bug 497206 for aptitude with a patch attached almost two > years ago. It's a new feature, to allow packages to be grouped by > source. It's usually easier to upgrade all packages from the same > source, without having to lo

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:59:45AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > This manual represents the opinion of a single developer. > And what does that have to do with the price of bananas in Iceland? > The fact that aptitude is currently the recommended tool for package > manageme

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 09:17:38PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > I wouldn't place any of Boost in that category. In fact, I wouldn't > > place "aptitude" in that category, either. > aptitude was historically the recommended tool to use for upgrades because > it had the best dependency resolver f

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-17 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:29:10 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >Though I think any manual published on debian.org recommending aptitude for >upgrades is a bug that should be fixed. Why? Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:29:10PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:59:56AM -0400, Will wrote: > > aptitude is the preferred package management tool, so I'm thinking > > that the priority of libboost-iostreams should be upgraded [1][2]. > > > [1] > > http://www.debia

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-16 Thread Frans Pop
Steve Langasek wrote: > This manual represents the opinion of a single developer. And what does that have to do with the price of bananas in Iceland? The fact that aptitude is currently the recommended tool for package management has various reasons: user interface, features, dependency handlin

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:59:56AM -0400, Will wrote: > aptitude is the preferred package management tool, so I'm thinking > that the priority of libboost-iostreams should be upgraded [1][2]. > [1] > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html#_basic_package_management_operations Th

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-15 Thread Will
6, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Steve M. Robbins" writes: > >> I wouldn't place any of Boost in that category.  In fact, I wouldn't >> place "aptitude" in that category, either. > > aptitude was historically the recommended tool to use for upgrades because > it had the best dependency

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-15 Thread Russ Allbery
"Steve M. Robbins" writes: > I wouldn't place any of Boost in that category. In fact, I wouldn't > place "aptitude" in that category, either. aptitude was historically the recommended tool to use for upgrades because it had the best dependency resolver for handling the dist-upgrade case. For so

Re: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-15 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Folks, The package "aptitude" is priority "important" and depends on libboost-iostreams, which is "optional". This is a violation of Policy section 2.5. The request of Bug #588608 is to raise the priority of libboost-iostreams to "important". Reading Policy, I note that "important" means:

Re: aptitude removals (was Re: APT 0.7 for sid)

2007-06-10 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:13:18PM -0400, Felipe Sateler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > Bug #299009 is AFAIK about the fact that aptitude produces different > > dependency resolutions from the visual UI versus the command-line. This > > is because the comma

Re: aptitude removals (was Re: APT 0.7 for sid)

2007-06-10 Thread Felipe Sateler
Daniel Burrows wrote: > Bug #299009 is AFAIK about the fact that aptitude produces different > dependency resolutions from the visual UI versus the command-line. This > is because the command-line has more context about what the user is > doing and tweaks the resolver accordingly. Would you e

Re: aptitude removals (was Re: APT 0.7 for sid)

2007-06-10 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 10:46:37AM -0400, Philippe Cloutier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > > >Apparently there have been bugs in this for years and no-one reported > >them until they caused trouble for the d-i team several months ago. > >They should be fixed in stable's aptitude now, an

Re: Aptitude browser activation

2007-02-20 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 05:42:28PM +, Howard Young wrote: > Hello, > > Another dully question. > Has anyone attempted to configure a browser so that it is able to > install packages? > > An example is the firefox java install. > > So say someone comes along to another site called > carbonf

Re: aptitude: aptitude ignores --target-release option

2006-12-28 Thread andrey i. mavlyanov
I suppose I got related problem. Here are my /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=etch Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=sid Pin-Priority: 400 Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=experimental Pin-Priority: 300 Package: * Pin: release o=Debian Pin-Priority:

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 10:57:22AM +0900, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > When you say that normal operation is getting slower, do you mean just > > the load time or its overall performance? The time required to load > > in all th

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-15 Thread Miles Bader
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When you say that normal operation is getting slower, do you mean just > the load time or its overall performance? The time required to load > in all the state files is a bit long, but once they're loaded the > program seems to run reasonably quickly to

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-15 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:41:25AM +0900, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [0] alert readers will note that the caveat "if the user waits for a > > sufficient amount of time" has to be added here; however, this is typically > > mu

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-10 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Though I love the aptitude interface and functionality, I've noticed > that on my home machine (not so fast, but not too bad with average > software), normal aptitude operation has been getting more and more > slothlike in recent times, to the point where

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-09 Thread Miles Bader
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [0] alert readers will note that the caveat "if the user waits for a > sufficient amount of time" has to be added here; however, this is typically > much less than one second per solution on my hardware. Er, what _is_ your hardware anyway? Though I l

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 12:51:55AM +0100, Jiří Paleček <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:50:14 +0100, Linas Zvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >Jiri Palecek wrote: > >>How does aptitude decide which one to choose? Shouldn't it > >>prefer to do something that

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-07 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
James Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The aptitude in unstable and testing has a feature that lists suggested > ways to fix broken packages. Unfortunately, the feature doesn't work very well. Frequently I say "aptitude remove XXX" and the first several suggestions that aptitude comes up with

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-06 Thread James Vega
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 12:51:55AM +0100, Jiří Paleček wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:50:14 +0100, Linas Zvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Jiri Palecek wrote: > >>How does aptitude decide which one to choose? Shouldn't it > >>prefer to do something that won't break other packages? Or shoul

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-06 Thread Jiří Paleček
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:50:14 +0100, Linas Zvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jiri Palecek wrote: How does aptitude decide which one to choose? Shouldn't it prefer to do something that won't break other packages? Or should it ask the user for help? As for your problem, you must provide way

Re: Aptitude question

2006-01-04 Thread Linas Zvirblis
Jiri Palecek wrote: Hello, I have a question on how aptitude decides which packages to install to satisfy dependencies. I was installing vtk yesterday and it depends on xlibmesa-gl | libgl1. Aptitude chose to install xlibmesa-gl which in turn broke my x-window-system-core metapackage. However, I

Re: aptitude 0.2.15.9 & apt 0.6

2005-03-27 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sunday 27 March 2005 04:00 am, Norbert Tretkowski wrote: > * Daniel Burrows wrote: > > I just uploaded aptitude 0.2.15.9 to Incoming. Most of the changes > > in this version are translation updates, but I also included a > > backport of the apt-secure enhancements that were previously only > > a

Re: aptitude 0.2.15.9 & apt 0.6

2005-03-27 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Daniel Burrows wrote: > I just uploaded aptitude 0.2.15.9 to Incoming. Most of the changes > in this version are translation updates, but I also included a > backport of the apt-secure enhancements that were previously only > available in experimental (including, as a > special-freebie-never-befo

Re: aptitude borked [was: Re: Fun with python-apt]

2003-06-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
Have you tried "dpkg --remove apt-listchanges" or "dpkg --purge apt-listchanges"? Daniel -- / Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---\ | "You see, I've already stolen the spork of wisdom | |and the spork of courage.. t

Re: aptitude borked [was: Re: Fun with python-apt]

2003-06-20 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"David A. Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > guarantee it will work because it seems as though apt thinks > apt-listchanges is still installed. This is a matter of configuration files; try purging apt-listchanges, and if that doesn't work remove /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20listchanges yourself. --

Re: aptitude borked [was: Re: Fun with python-apt]

2003-06-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 10:27:14AM -0400, David A. Greene wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > >If you had wanted to find out the answer before sending this to > >debian-devel, you would not have had to look very far. > >bugs.debian.org/python-apt has the answer three times over. > > > >http://bugs

Re: Categorization of packages (was Re: Aptitude, ARs)

2003-04-10 Thread Enrico Zini
[Cc-ing to deb-usability-list] On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 12:05:25AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Before the wish list, I propose to do a step back and do some task > > analysis. > Also after this we need to prioritize them considering efforts needed to > achieve them. You mean efforts for doing th

Re: Aptitude, ARs

2003-04-10 Thread Enrico Zini
[I'm Cc-ing deb-usability-list so that people interested in usability can know what's been discussed in -devel about it. I invite others to do the same] On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 12:06:45AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > I'm interested in helping in the menu issue, too; I've offered help some > > mo

Re: aptitude: I know it broke, don't bother telling me

2001-09-18 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 07:47:42AM -0400, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > The first bugreport on an aptitude problem caused by #111914 just rolled > > in. (namely, the http method breaks badly when run from aptitude) This

Re: aptitude: I know it broke, don't bother telling me

2001-09-17 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 07:47:42AM -0400, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > The first bugreport on an aptitude problem caused by #111914 just rolled > in. (namely, the http method breaks badly when run from aptitude) This is > a known problem that comes from the apt librar

Re: aptitude

2000-03-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jacob Kuntz wrote: > Robert Ramiega ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I must have missed it... Anyway it needs dpkg.h and i cant find it on my > > system... Searcher on Debian Web site can't find it either =o(( > > it's in dpkg-dev. It used to be, but I remove libdpkg and its header-file

Re: aptitude

2000-03-18 Thread Jacob Kuntz
Fabien Ninoles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 08:35:52PM +0100, Robert Ramiega wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:23:50AM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > > > > I tried to find it on download.stormix.com but failed > > > > > > It's in > > > ftp://download.stormix.com:/storm/

Re: aptitude

2000-03-18 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 08:35:52PM +0100, Robert Ramiega wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:23:50AM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > > > I tried to find it on download.stormix.com but failed > > > > It's in > > ftp://download.stormix.com:/storm/dists/rain/main/source/ > I must have missed it... An

Re: aptitude

2000-03-18 Thread Jacob Kuntz
Robert Ramiega ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I must have missed it... Anyway it needs dpkg.h and i cant find it on my > system... Searcher on Debian Web site can't find it either =o(( > it's in dpkg-dev. -- (jacob kuntz)[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED],underworld}.net (

Re: aptitude

2000-03-18 Thread Robert Ramiega
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 07:23:50AM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > > I tried to find it on download.stormix.com but failed > > It's in > ftp://download.stormix.com:/storm/dists/rain/main/source/ I must have missed it... Anyway it needs dpkg.h and i cant find it on my system... Searcher on Debian W

Re: aptitude

2000-03-15 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 10:55:38AM +0100, Robert Ramiega wrote: > On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 08:00:27PM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > > > > You just miss another one: sl-stormpkg from Stormix. > > Sure, it's not on potato but add > > deb ftp://download.stormix.com/storm potato main > > in sources.l

Re: aptitude

2000-03-15 Thread Robert Ramiega
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 08:00:27PM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > > You just miss another one: sl-stormpkg from Stormix. > Sure, it's not on potato but add > deb ftp://download.stormix.com/storm potato main > in sources.list and install sl-stormpkg. > > It's GPLed, GNOME-based, used whatever com

Re: aptitude

2000-03-14 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 02:23:12PM +0900, Julian Stoev wrote: > I personally don't like the Stormpkg thing. Maybe I am broken by > dselect ;) I included slink ftp in apt and got many nice programs, > which are not part of Stormix using dselect. No problem at all. But > Stormpkg may be b

Re: aptitude

2000-03-13 Thread Julian Stoev
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 08:00:27PM -0500, Fabien Ninoles wrote: |Stormix make great efforts to make their distributions fully |compatible with Debian. This should be applaused, especially |in regards to the mess that some other vendors made. I hope |to try it in a week or two. Two days ago I intro

Re: aptitude

2000-03-13 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 07:52:40AM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > Just take my comments as a wish list for the future, I > know this stuff is still alpha grade (but still very > usefull). Nice thing about debian is that it not only > has a bullet resistant package manager (not bullet > proof as pe

Re: aptitude

2000-03-08 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Just take my comments as a wish list for the future, I know this stuff is still alpha grade (but still very usefull). Nice thing about debian is that it not only has a bullet resistant package manager (not bullet proof as per some of the slink->potato upgrade horror stories I've been reading), but

Re: aptitude

2000-03-08 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 08:26:00AM -0500, Daniel Burrows was heard to say: > > What gets me is that aptitude, apt-get, deselect, and gnome-apt all > > seem to give slightly different info on which packages > > are broken, will be deleted, or are on hold. Are the > > dependancy rules interperted di