Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-10 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 2022-03-09 21:00:20, Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:10:04 +0100, Harald Dunkel Related question: How are naming collisions between local entries and the entries in a network directory service supposed to be handled? Something like passwd: files sss in /etc/nsswitch.conf

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-09 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 2022-03-08 17:49:04, Marc Haber wrote: (1a) would it be necessary to handle --system accounts differently? I think yes. I think it would be helpful to define "system account" and "normal user". Neither adduser(8) nor useradd(8) provide a sufficient definition, especially wrt the exist

please document why a package has been dropped from Testing/Bullseye

2021-05-08 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=rsnapshot doesn't tell, so I wonder what is the recommended way to find out why rsnapshot (or any other package) has been dropped from Testing? rsnapshot is still in Sid. I found #986709, of course, but this information should be much easier

Re: freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)

2021-03-24 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 3/24/21 2:49 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:33:53PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: So what would be your suggestion? If you are still asking about getting this package into bullseye then I'm afraid it's not possible. Otherwise, as already suggested, it

Re: freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)

2021-03-24 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 3/24/21 11:05 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:02:37AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: For my own part, I run freeipa-server on CentOS 7. I am not affected by #970880. I would be very happy with freeipa-client in Bullseye, even if freeipa-server doesn't make it.

freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)

2021-03-24 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I understand that freeipa-server has a very serious problem (#970880), making it unfit for Bullseye. It is *highly* painful that it puts freeipa-client at risk for the next release, too. We had something similar for Buster about 2 years ago, AFAIR. For my own part, I run freeipa-server

how to ignore signed kernel packages and use the unsigned instead?

2021-02-07 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I would like to install the unsigned kernel packages instead of the signed ones, but using linux-headers-amd64 and linux-image-amd64 I have to wait for a signature being applied. Obviously the signed kernel image and header packages for amd64 rely upon information not being publicly av

Re: f...@packages.debian.org Re: moving mg from salsa to github?

2020-02-26 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 2/15/20 10:03 PM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: So far I did not find a single upstream that was not able to understand a sentence like "Hi, my name is foo and I'm the Debian developer who is maintaining blubb in Debian". Thats correct. The maintainer for mg attached a new label 20200215 without he

Re: moving mg from salsa to github?

2020-02-17 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Marco, On 2020-02-15 20:44, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Feb 15, Harald Dunkel wrote: I am maintainer for mg, currently on salsa. Problem is, upstream doesn't release tar balls anymore, but moved the code to github. I plan to do something like this for ppp, which now has a proper up

Re: moving mg from salsa to github?

2020-02-15 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 2/15/20 2:44 PM, Peter Silva wrote: fwiw, looking at the repo on github.  There are tags.  They're just dates, Ideally one would get an idea of what the tags are from upstream, but you could just git clone using a tag. Also github allows you to easily get a tarball given a tag: wget https:

moving mg from salsa to github?

2020-02-15 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I am maintainer for mg, currently on salsa. Problem is, upstream doesn't release tar balls anymore, but moved the code to github. No tags. How can I tell Salsa? Should I drop the upstream and pristine-tar branches on Salsa and integrate the repository on github? Would you suggest to mo

bitte ueberprueft die Energy settings unter Linux

2020-01-07 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, bitte ueberprueft die Power Management Settungs (Energy) auf Eurem Linux Host. Die dpcls sollten *nicht* automatisch ausgehen, sonst ist remote management nicht moeglich. Vielen Dank Harri

Re: Debian vs Linux namespaces

2019-03-26 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 3/25/19 11:41 AM, Florian Lohoff wrote: Hi, On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 01:34:34PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: Hi folks, AFAICS there are several packages that appear to be unaware of / do not care about containers, e.g. opensmtpd, bind9, apt-cacher-ng, probably everything using pidof or

Re: Debian vs Linux namespaces

2019-03-24 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Ondřej, On 3/23/19 2:26 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Hi Harald, > > since you are using non-default init system, I would recommend sending > patches along with your bug reports if you want to get niche things fixed. > I already did. See the bug reports for lsb and opensmtpd. I stumbled over apt-

Debian vs Linux namespaces

2019-03-23 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, AFAICS there are several packages that appear to be unaware of / do not care about containers, e.g. opensmtpd, bind9, apt-cacher-ng, probably everything using pidof or pidofproc from /lib/lsb/init-\ functions). I noticed that containerization and Linux namespaces are not number one prio

libcurl3 vs libcurl4

2018-06-08 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, maybe a stupid question, but how comes libcurl4 doesn't provide a new soname, making it possible to install both libcurl3 and libcurl4 in parallel? Would it be possible for libcurl4 to provide libcurl3 to avoid the conflict? Regards Harri

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:20:41 +0200 Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 11.07.2017 um 12:14 schrieb Guus Sliepen: > > Ok, it should be clear now that the new way of naming interfaces is not > > ideal, but the older ways weren't either. Let's have a look at what we > > want: > > > > - A simple name for syst

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:14:59 +0200 Guus Sliepen wrote: > > So, what can we do to improve the situation and get the best of both > worlds? > systemd.link(5) describes a NamePolicy option for interface names. I would suggest to introduce a new policy "keep" to stick with the native interface n

can't push new version to collab-maint

2017-04-05 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi folks, trying to push a new version of mg to collab-maint I get an error message "unable to update info/refs+" {harri@cecil:mg (pristine-tar) 588} git push Counting objects: 4, done. Delta compression using up to 8 threads. Compressing objects:

Re: kurze downtime der jenkins server um 12:00

2016-10-18 Thread Harald Dunkel
Sorry for the noise, that was a bad To: address. Regards Harri On 10/18/2016 09:14 AM, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > zur RAM Erweiterung gibt es heute um 12:00 eine kurze Downtime > der Jenkins Server > > invde8i001 > mbrjenkins01 > nvode

kurze downtime der jenkins server um 12:00

2016-10-18 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, zur RAM Erweiterung gibt es heute um 12:00 eine kurze Downtime der Jenkins Server invde8i001 mbrjenkins01 nvode7i001 semde7i001 sprjenkins01 Regards Harri

Re: howto avoid "apt-get update" going guru?

2016-07-05 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Martin, On 07/05/16 10:09, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: > On 2016-07-05 06:32, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> >> I didn't mention klecker-ftp anywhere in my config files. >> Its not on the round-robin list for ftp.debian.org either: >> >> # host ftp.de

Re: howto avoid "apt-get update" going guru?

2016-07-05 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 07/05/16 06:32, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > this morning I found "apt-get update" getting stuck due to an > unresponsive host: > Sorry, this was supposed to go to debian-user. Regards Harri

howto avoid "apt-get update" going guru?

2016-07-04 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi folks, this morning I found "apt-get update" getting stuck due to an unresponsive host: # cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free #

Re: debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-18 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, On 01/15/2016 05:07 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > Whenever discussions about new dependency syntax come up I like to remind > people of all the time (about six years now) and effort it took to get the > build profile syntax [1] accepted by the archive, supported by all tools and > to

Re: debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-15 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 01/14/2016 10:11 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 09:35:31AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> For running a local set of meta packages I would like to >> express package dependencies depending upon other packages >> installed, e.g. >> >

debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-14 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, For running a local set of meta packages I would like to express package dependencies depending upon other packages installed, e.g. Package: xyz Version: all Depends: ${misc:Depends} , dbus (systemd >= 215) Hopefully you get the meaning. Package xyz could make sure that dbus is

iscsi support in Jessie

2015-10-15 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, Some years ago I have setup an iscsi target using targetcli 2.0 on Wheezy. Actually it works pretty well, but there were some serious upgrade problems to 2.1 and 3.0, making targetcli go away for Jessie :-(. See #764005 and #751226. I lost confident in a newer version. Now I have to ins

Re: DEB_SIGN_KEYID vs DEBSIGN_KEYID

2015-06-13 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/08/15 18:48, Guido Günther wrote: > On Sun, Jun 07, 2015 at 10:36:41AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: Hi folks, > > Trying to get rid of my old GPG key I stumbled over this: > > For devscripts you can define a variable "DEBS

DEB_SIGN_KEYID vs DEBSIGN_KEYID

2015-06-07 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi folks, Trying to get rid of my old GPG key I stumbled over this: For devscripts you can define a variable "DEBSIGN_KEYID". For dpkg it is called "DEB_SIGN_KEYID". git-buildpackage doesn't support a keyid environment variable at all, as it seems.

Re: conflicts between Debian's and upstream's Debian package

2015-02-24 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 02/24/15 15:09, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Sorry, but I don't want to blame anybody producing "bad" packages. > It shouldn't matter here. > Should be: Sorry, but I don't want to blame anybody to produce "bad" packages. Name and upstream URL s

Re: conflicts between Debian's and upstream's Debian package

2015-02-24 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Andreas, On 02/20/15 18:54, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Harald, > > Is there any reason why you do not even now are talking about package > name and upstream URL featuring the same name? Its not fruitful to > leave your discussion partners in the dark. > Sorry, but I don't want to blame anybo

Re: conflicts between Debian's and upstream's Debian package

2015-02-20 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Daniel, On 02/20/15 13:09, Daniel Leidert wrote: > > Just to understand your problem: there is a package foo. Debian provides > it with version 1:A-B and upstream provides some self-compiled packages > with the same name under version C-D (and C-D < 1:A-B) and you want to > force apt to instal

conflicts between Debian's and upstream's Debian package

2015-02-20 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I would like to use upstream's Debian/Ubuntu packages for a certain tool 'foo'. Its closer to what I need, and I don't have migrate between both versions before asking the mailing list for help or for reporting/fixing problems. Problem: The Debian maintainer messed up the version nu

Re: network-manager-strongswan kicked out from Jessie, even though there is a fix?

2015-02-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 02/06/15 10:01, Dominique Dumont wrote: > > network-manager-strongswan is still in unstable and will be part of stretch > once jessie is out and the RC bugs are fixed. > Sorry, I thought it was kicked out completely. > Your work is definitely not a waste of time: it can be used for stretch

Re: network-manager-strongswan kicked out from Jessie, even though there is a fix?

2015-02-05 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 02/05/15 16:58, Thibaut Paumard wrote: > > I understand that it can make you sad, especially since you missed the > final deadline by only a few days, but you didn't waste your time: its > too late for jessie, but you will be able to push your package into > jessie-backports, once it is availab

Re: network-manager-strongswan kicked out from Jessie, even though there is a fix?

2015-02-05 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 02/05/15 15:38, Dominique Dumont wrote: > > Sorry that's not possible: this package was removed from Jessie back in > September. Freeze policy excludes package removed more than 1 week ago [1] > Highly discouraging. Feels like I wasted my time. :-( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-deve

Re: network-manager-strongswan kicked out from Jessie, even though there is a fix?

2015-02-05 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 02/04/15 12:22, Dominique Dumont wrote: > > According to PTS [1], this package was kicked out because of > a FTBS [2]. Is this bug fixed ? > I have pushed a new version 1.3.0-1.3 to mentors, providing a workaround for #773764 as well. http://mentors.debian.net/package/network-manager-strong

Re: network-manager-strongswan kicked out from Jessie, even though there is a fix?

2015-02-04 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 02/04/15 12:22, Dominique Dumont wrote: > > According to PTS [1], this package was kicked out because of > a FTBS [2]. Is this bug fixed ? > Sorry, I had built network-manager-strongswan on Wheezy to use it on Wheezy and Jessie. I didn't notice the FTBFS on sid. Building on Jessie I still g

network-manager-strongswan kicked out from Jessie, even though there is a fix?

2015-02-04 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, Do you think it would it be possible to fix network-manager-strongswan for Jessie? Currently it seems it has been kicked out due to #773764, even though the report provides an easy fix to make it work at least for xfce4 and gnome on Jessie. I have pushed an NMU (1.3.0-1.2) to mentors fo

Re: question about versioned dependencies in debian/control

2014-10-22 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 10/22/14 16:57, Simon McVittie wrote: > > 1:2.1.2-0~xgo70+1 is less than 1:2.1.2, because 1:2.1.2 is equal to > 1:2.1.2-0 in version number order, and 0~x is less than 0. > > You can confirm this: > > % dpkg --compare-versions 2-0~x lt 2-0 && echo yes > yes > > I would suggest 1:2.1.

question about versioned dependencies in debian/control

2014-10-22 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I am building local git packages for Wheezy derived from the official source package. Problem with debian/control: : Package: git Architecture: any Multi-Arch: foreign Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, perl-modules, liberror-perl, git-man (>> ${source:Upstream-Version}), git-man (<< ${sourc

Re: question about versioned dependencies in debian/control

2014-10-22 Thread Harald Dunkel
PS: The error message is: Setting up git-man (1:2.1.2-0~xgo70+1) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of git: git depends on git-man (>> 1:2.1.2); however: Version of git-man on system is 1:2.1.2-0~xgo70+1. Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.

Re: [Pkg-swan-devel] say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-28 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 07/28/14 11:38, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > I don't currently use the network-manager strongSwan plugin but that's > mostly because it doesn't work. AFAICT it didn't work due to #741415. Today its broken again. It says Could not find VPN plugin service for 'org.freedesktop.

Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-17 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 07/16/14 17:56, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > BTW, it feels weird that the package build-depends on debhelper when it > really is using CDBS. The debian/copyright is also quite wrong, as it > doesn't include the copyright notice for the GPL v2 (and I believe > that's mandatory, right?). Not comment

Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-17 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 07/16/14 17:56, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > To try to kill your frustration, I have sponsored the upload of your fix > to the delayed/10 queue. If everything goes well, then in 15 days, > network-manager-strongswan will be back in Jessie. > Thanx very much for your help Regards Harri -- To

Re: nmudiff enhancements

2014-07-17 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, On 07/17/14 03:16, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote: > * Wookey [140716 23:48]: > >> I do think there is plenty more room for soialising more NMUing. There >> are piles of bugs in the archive that mostly just need uploading, and >> many packages with a backlog of minor bugs, or packaging t

Re: Transition plan for changing the default init system

2014-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 07/16/14 23:22, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > So we are proposing the following scheme: > > a/ Upload a new "init" package. This is a new, essential package that > will replace sysvinit as the package that ensures your system has an > init system. We want to build this binary package from a package

Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 07/16/14 15:17, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Especially if the NMU is properly done (eg documented in the BTS, uploaded to > DELAYED-foo, etc) I've hardly seen any complaints in recent years. > Surely I could have done better in providing a "clean" fix to #741415, making it more easy for the Deb

Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Simon, On 07/16/14 12:36, Simon McVittie wrote: > > If the change you proposed works correctly, an NMU seems appropriate. > I am using the fix in a private package since I created the bug report. Seems to work fine (using strongswan 5.x). I have appended a diff to the bug report. Hope this

Re: say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Thijs, On 07/16/14 12:35, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > As it turns out, this package got removed because it has an unfixed > release critical bug (which interestingly enough you yourself reported). > When this bug is fixed, the package will transition back to testing. > Of course I know that I

say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, how comes that network-manager-strongswan has been dropped from testing? This package is extremely important for road- warrior setups using IPsec. Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listma

new bug severity "new upstream"

2014-06-13 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, would it be reasonable to introduce a new bug severity "new upstream"? Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/539adccd.9040...@aixi

Re: download of source packages alarmed clamav

2013-06-25 Thread Harald Dunkel
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:54:53 +0300 Marius Gavrilescu wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 09:52:26AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Its not a warning. The download failed. > > Yes, I should have said failure. Anyway, the probable cause > is the existence of emails with virus

Re: download of source packages alarmed clamav

2013-06-25 Thread Harald Dunkel
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:46:23 +0300 Marius Gavrilescu wrote: > > That package contains a directory named test/ with emails with spam, viruses > and similar. This might have caused the clamav warning. > Its not a warning. The download failed. Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-

download of source packages alarmed clamav

2013-06-25 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I am running a transparent http proxy integrated with clamav. Problem: If I run "apt-get source pymilter", then I get # apt-get source pymilter Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done NOTICE: 'pymilter' packaging is maintained in the 'Svn

question about "Conflicts:"

2012-04-23 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, How can I tell a Debian package to conflict with a real package "foo", but not with other packages providing "foo"? Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

usb sata docking station: backup button?

2011-10-09 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, Does anybody know some way to bind an action to the button most usb sata docking stations come with? Regards Harri -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk6RoQ4ACgkQUTlbRTxpHjdm5wCfdR2NfA3vIp48ydehS

Re: combined dependencies?

2011-08-20 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, On 08/20/11 08:55, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > What event would induce installation of C(A)?! Let's assume neither A nor B > are installed. > > apt-get install A (no point installing C(A)) apt-get install B (B does not > depend on C(

combined dependencies?

2011-08-19 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, would it be possible to support combined dependencies, e.g. if package A and B are installed, then package C(A) has to be installed, too? That might be helpful for dkms packages, for example. A would be the kernel, B the dkms package, and C

Re: how to divert /etc/profile?

2011-07-04 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/11 12:32, Timo Weingärtner wrote: > Hi Harald, > > Am Montag, 2011-07-04 schrieb Harald Dunkel: >> I would like to install a private package diverting /etc/profile (to support >> /etc/profile.d). Problem: There is n

how to divert /etc/profile?

2011-07-04 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I would like to install a private package diverting /etc/profile (to support /etc/profile.d). Problem: There is no owner for this file. What would you suggest? Any helpful comment would be highly appreciated. Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?

2011-06-09 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/10/11 07:24, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > I do not see that. All packages were available at build time in > the right version. Where should this broken dependency come from, > unless you are ignoring dependencies on promoting p

Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?

2011-06-09 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/07/11 00:59, Russ Allbery wrote: > Harald Dunkel writes: > >> Not exactly. I would like to get a stable build and runtime environment >> for the packages in main/testing. > > Yes, that's what I'm saying do

Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?

2011-06-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/11 07:06, Russ Allbery wrote: > > I still think this whole conversation is based on a false premise. I > think the original request originated from a belief that there is some > separable part of "core" Debian which could be held stable, and

Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?

2011-06-05 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/05/11 13:17, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 08:29 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> >> Understood. If you reduce the number of packages to be released by >> focusing on a core package set with 1000 or

Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?

2011-06-04 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Neil, On 06/04/11 19:01, Neil Williams wrote: > > Testing compatibility is the larger problem. Automated tests can only > go so far. Dependencies are one thing, bugs which arise because one > setup is using a version which has already been replace

Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?

2011-06-04 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Neil, On 06/04/11 12:36, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 10:12:42 +0200 > Harald Dunkel wrote: > >> Installing testing for the whole system is no option. The base >> system (the core packages) should be provid

Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?

2011-06-04 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/11 07:26, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > This is one of those recurrent discussions coming up on debian-devel. It > is my impression (as a lurker) that most Debian Developers do not want > to have second-class packages and it is a feature that a

Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?

2011-06-04 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/11 09:05, Paul Wise wrote: > Alternatively you might want to install from testing directly. Not > everything from testing is installable on stable, which is where > backports comes in. Installing testing for the whole system is no option. The

Re: distinguish between "core" and "main"?

2011-06-03 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/11 07:56, Paul Wise wrote: > Sounds like you are looking for backports.debian.org? > Backports for Squeeze contains just about 400 package, AFIACS. Regards Harri -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Us

distinguish between "core" and "main"?

2011-06-03 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, Having 3+ packages within a single "main" repository is pretty bulky. Would it be possible to distinguish between the "core" Debian and "main" somehow? I don't want to keep anybody out. I just would like to use the core packages of Debi

Re: problem with /etc/kernel scripts

2011-04-03 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ben, On 03/31/11 15:22, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 10:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > [...] >> Of course I understand that this is highly complex. Maybe it would help to >> introduce some scheme to register eve

Re: problem with /etc/kernel scripts

2011-03-31 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/21/11 14:22, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 06:17 +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> >> Do you think that dkms should drop its /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms >> script? AFAICS this script might be called b

Re: problem with /etc/kernel scripts

2011-03-20 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/20/11 18:23, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 16:49 +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> >> Obviously the dkms script should not be run by the postinst script >> of linux-image, but of linux-headers. Shouldn't we

problem with /etc/kernel scripts

2011-03-20 Thread Harald Dunkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, I am using upstream's build procedure for creating Linux kernel packages ("make deb-pkg"). For 2.6.38 it gives you these packages: linux-firmware-image_2.6.38-1_amd64.deb linux-headers-2.6.38_2.6.38-1_amd64.deb linux

Re: many packages FTBFS, if $TAPE is set

2007-08-28 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Eduard, Eduard Bloch wrote: verify his/her own package. But in this case a central check would be cheap and easy to implement. Almost zero effort compared to the damage done by corrupting tapes. Oh, come on. People who put $TAPE into the default environment may also link /dev/null to /dev

Re: many packages FTBFS, if $TAPE is set

2007-08-28 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Bas, You could write 'tar cfz file.tgz files' instead of 'tar -c -f file.tgz -z files'. Seems that looking for a missing '-f' or 'f' would be pretty error-prone and much more difficult than a simple "test ! -s watchdog.tar" after building the package. My point is: We need some central qualit

many packages FTBFS, if $TAPE is set

2007-08-28 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, Many packages FTBFS (silently!) if an environment variable TAPE is set. That happens if your rules script uses something like tar -c modules | bzip2 -9 > omfs.tar.bz2 for example. If $TAPE is set, then tar writes to $TAPE instead of stdout (possibly corrupting the tape you had

"Mozilla" plugins to depend upon virtual "mozilla-plugin-browser"?

2007-03-23 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, Would it be possible that the "Mozilla" plugins depend upon a virtual mozilla-plugin-browser package? All browsers with the same plugin interface could provide this feature, and foreign browsers would not be kept out. Many thanx in advance Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Harald Dunkel
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: > > You can also add the epoch number to your own packages. Thus, they will > be always newer than those coming from Debian, so they won't be > upgraded. Of course you don't have to add epochs to upstream sources. > That is not the goal of an epoch. > Upstream prov

Re: ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Harald Dunkel
Philipp Kern wrote: > > The maintainer could use an epoch to fix it. (It's like a 1: prefix.) > > >> 2.5.130.CVS.2005.07.19.01-1 >> 2.5.13-0.CVS.2005.07.19.01-1 > > > Is it really important to have the 0 split away? I think while dashes > are perfectly valid when there is a Debian re

Re: ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Harald Dunkel
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: > El dom, 31-07-2005 a las 19:13 +0200, Harald Dunkel escribió: > >>Hi folks, >> >>What happens if a package maintainer ignores upstream's >>version number (either on purpose, or by accident, e.g. >>a typo)? Is this allowed?

ignoring upstream's version number?

2005-07-31 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, What happens if a package maintainer ignores upstream's version number (either on purpose, or by accident, e.g. a typo)? Is this allowed? Regards Harri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

question: bugfixes in experimental?

2005-07-30 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, I've got a problem with marking broken packages as fixed. If there is (lets say) a grave functionality bug for package "M" in unstable or testing, then a bugfix in experimental doesn't help me. (I made very bad experiences with experimental, e.g. broken version numbers, currupted apt sy

Re: Dependency problems with Xorg

2005-07-17 Thread Harald Dunkel
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> >>But I can follow your argument. Dpkg should allow installing >>different C++ abis on the same machine. Only within each >>dependency chain the abi version number must be unique

Re: Dependency problems with Xorg

2005-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > A single C++-ABI package would just mean that all c++ packages are > kept back (or removed) from the very start of the c++ transition up to > the very end. There will be a lot of packages at the end of the > dependency chains that you don't have installed and that w

Re: Dependency problems with Xorg

2005-07-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > yes > > welcome to the c++ abi transition > > Maybe this has been suggested before, but... Probably more C++ abi changes will follow. To support a smooth migration I would like to suggest to create empty packages describing the C++ abis. A package maintainer could

Re: why do I need EMail to install some debs?

2003-09-07 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Simon, Simon Richter wrote: Harald, Would it be possible to get rid of the need to install EMail (e.g. exim or sendmail) by default? A lot of packages need at least the /usr/sbin/sendmail program, to be able to send email to the admin, for example cron or at, which send the Sure. I am not talk

why do I need EMail to install some debs?

2003-09-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, Would it be possible to get rid of the need to install EMail (e.g. exim or sendmail) by default? I think it is pretty ugly that the installation from scratch of Sid on my PC got stuck several times, because EMail is not correctly configured. I would prefer to avoid installing a local SMTP

Re: FVWM 2.5.x debs

2003-04-29 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Alex, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: Hello. Recently I was reported [1] by Marco d'Itri that FVWM from stable branch (2.4.x) does not work with GNOME2, so he requested 2.5.x packages from me. Olivier Chapuis clarified the situation in his reply [2] to my question in fvwm-workers mailing list. FVWM

Re: g++ 3.2 on woody ?

2002-08-13 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Nikita, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Hello. I wanted to install g++ 3.2 (instead of 3.1 that is buggy) on our server running woody with several packages from unstable. I noticed that g++ 3.2 depends on recent libc6. Is it safe to install libc6 from unstable now? Are libdb problems resolved?

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread Harald Dunkel
May you should consider VMware's current beta of 3.1? Good luck Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: how to install KDE or Gnome on Sid

2001-09-12 Thread Harald Dunkel
"Francesco P. Lovergine" wrote: > > Did you try > > apt-get install gdm ? > gdm is just the display manager. It's not the head of a task as kde is. > It install all libraries and binaries. Moreover, it not so clear what > a GNOME wm should be... Ximinian? Gnome 1.4BETA? > What's the current st

Re: how to install KDE or Gnome on Sid

2001-09-12 Thread Harald Dunkel
Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:06:13AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > What is the recommended way to install Gnome or KDE? The task-XXX > > packages are gone for some time now, without appropriate replacement, > > as

Re: how to install KDE or Gnome on Sid

2001-09-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
"Francesco P. Lovergine" wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:06:13AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > What is the recommended way to install Gnome or KDE? The task-XXX > > packages are gone for some time now, without appropriate replac

how to install KDE or Gnome on Sid

2001-09-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, What is the recommended way to install Gnome or KDE? The task-XXX packages are gone for some time now, without appropriate replacement, as it seems. Regards Harri

Re: Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Brian May wrote: > > > > Have you told squid that it can use greater then 100MByte (the > > default)? > > > > I haven't tried Squid yet, cause Apache was already in place. > Of course I will try it. > I've got the sam

Re: Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
Brian May wrote: > > Have you told squid that it can use greater then 100MByte (the > default)? > I haven't tried Squid yet, cause Apache was already in place. Of course I will try it. Many thanx for your configuration hints. Regards Harri

Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, To reduce network load and speed up upgrades I have installed a caching proxy on one of my machines (using Apache). But it doesn't work very well. Packages are downloaded from http.us.debian.org, even if they should have been taken from the cache due to an upgrade of another machine

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