Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 23:00:58 +, Richard Lewis wrote: >Gard Spreemann writes: >> While I personally think e-mail-based workflows can be quite nice, the >> BTS' asynchronous nature did cause me a lot of extra pointless work >> when I was an outsider attempting to learn the ropes. Being not 100%

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

Hello, On Wed 11 Dec 2024 at 11:00pm GMT, Richard Lewis wrote: > Gard Spreemann writes: > >> While I personally think e-mail-based workflows can be quite nice, the >> BTS' asynchronous nature did cause me a lot of extra pointless work >> when I was an outsider attempting to learn the ropes. Bein

Re: Problems to find sponsors

Hello, On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 01:31pm GMT, Ahmad Khalifa wrote: > As an outsider trying to help, the natural thing I looked at was the RFH > process to dip my toes into things. > But only 56 packages have RFH bugs and they're usually not very clear on what > help they need. And most of those were

Re: criteria for acceptable languages for central QA tools in Debian (was: Re: coordination between lintian/piuparts/adequate)

Hi, > [forking to -devel] > > On Wed Dec 11, 2024 at 11:15 AM CET, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 09:38:57PM +0100, Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas wrote: > > > > On Sat Dec 7, 2024 at 5:15 AM CET, Paul Wise wrote: > > > > Probably adequate is the logical place for this test, but ade

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

Hi, > > While I personally think e-mail-based workflows can be quite nice, the > > BTS' asynchronous nature did cause me a lot of extra pointless work > > when I was an outsider attempting to learn the ropes. Being not 100% > > confident with the system, I way too often found myself waiting > > mi

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

Gard Spreemann writes: > While I personally think e-mail-based workflows can be quite nice, the > BTS' asynchronous nature did cause me a lot of extra pointless work > when I was an outsider attempting to learn the ropes. Being not 100% > confident with the system, I way too often found myself wa

criteria for acceptable languages for central QA tools in Debian (was: Re: coordination between lintian/piuparts/adequate)

[forking to -devel] On Wed Dec 11, 2024 at 11:15 AM CET, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 09:38:57PM +0100, Serafeim (Serafi) Zanikolas wrote: > > > On Sat Dec 7, 2024 at 5:15 AM CET, Paul Wise wrote: > > > Probably adequate is the logical place for this test, but adequate > > > does

Bug#1089740: ITP: golang-github-in-toto-go-witness -- Go implementation of witness

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon Josefsson * Package name: golang-github-in-toto-go-witness Version : 0.7.0-1 Upstream Author : in-toto * URL : https://github.com/in-toto/go-witness * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Go Description :

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 15:00:45 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: >> On 12/11/24 6:35 PM, sre4e...@free.fr wrote: >>> Le 2024-12-11 13:52, Pirate Praveen a écrit : > reportbug can talk SMTP directly, is that not enough for you? without configuring an smtp server? If I run reportbug and clicks

Bug#1089711: ITP: llm-claude-3 -- LLM plugin for interacting with the Claude 3 family of models

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Antoine Beaupre X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.torproject.org * Package name: llm-claude-3 Version : 0.10 Upstream Contact: Simon Willison * URL : https://github.com/s

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:50:55 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: >On 12/11/24 5:20 PM, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:04:52 +0530, Pirate Praveen >> wrote: >>> I think a reportbug web based front end that authenticates with salsa >>> via oauth and sends emails without any email client needi

Bug#1089708: ITP: python-pytest-venv -- venv fixture for pytest

Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Python Team Owner: Roland Mas Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-pytest-venv Version : 0.3 Upstream Contact: Michael Merickel * URL : https://github.com/mmerickel/pytest-venv * License

Bug#1089709: ITP: python-ewoksdata -- data access utilities for Ewoks workflows

Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Python Team Owner: Roland Mas Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-ewoksdata Version : 0.6.0~rc0 Upstream Contact: Wout De Nolf * URL : https://gitlab.esrf.fr/workflow/ewoksapps/ewoksdata * Licen

Bug#1089707: ITP: python-pypushflow -- task scheduler for cyclic and acyclic graphs

Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Python Team Owner: Roland Mas Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-pypushflow Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Contact: Henri Payno * URL : https://gitlab.esrf.fr/workflow/pypushflow * License :

Bug#1089706: ITP: python-ewoksdask -- distributed task scheduling for Ewoks worflows

Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Python Team Owner: Roland Mas Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-ewoksdask Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Contact: Wout De Nolf * URL : https://gitlab.esrf.fr/workflow/ewoks/ewoksdask * License

Bug#1089705: ITP: python-ewoksppf -- task scheduling for cyclic Ewoks worflows

Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Python Team Owner: Roland Mas Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-ewoksppf Version : 0.4.0 Upstream Contact: Wout De Nolf * URL : https://gitlab.esrf.fr/workflow/ewoks/ewoksppf * License

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 09:27:11AM -0500, Boyuan Yang wrote: > I would like to add that while self-sustained SMTP facilities is useful, the > reportbug tool has a strong assumption: it assumes that the bug reporter > must be using Debian (or one of the Debian derivative, though we know it > won't w

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

Quoting Holger Levsen (2024-12-11 15:29:08) > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 09:29:08PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Last time I had to write a removal request I asked ChatGPT and it worked > > well! > > is this debian-devel@ or -curiosa@? (&scnr) > > that said, I do realize that the verb "to google

Bug#1089703: ITP: python-testbook -- unit testing framework extension for testing Jupyter Notebooks

Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Python Team Owner: Roland Mas Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-testbook Version : 0.4.2 Upstream Contact: "nteract contributors" * URL : https://github.com/nteract/testbook * License

Bug#1089701: ITP: python-rsyncmanager -- Python binding for rsync

Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Python Team Owner: Roland Mas Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-rsyncmanager Version : 0.1.3 Upstream Contact: Henri Payno * URL : https://gitlab.esrf.fr/payno/rsyncmanager * License :

Bug#1089702: ITP: python-ewoks -- Extensible Workflow System

Package: wnpp X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Python Team Owner: Roland Mas Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-ewoks Version : 0.6.0 Upstream Contact: Wout De Nolf * URL : https://gitlab.esrf.fr/workflow/ewoks/ewoks * License : MIT

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On 2024-12-11 15:27, Boyuan Yang wrote: I would like to add that while self-sustained SMTP facilities is useful, the reportbug tool has a strong assumption: it assumes that the bug reporter must be using Debian (or one of the Debian derivative, though we know it won't work well) when reporting

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

Le 2024-12-11 15:04, Pirate Praveen a écrit : Many firewalls (for example in offices) also block almost every port other than 80 or 443. So it'd still be valuable to have a web based reportbug interface. Well, usually they just block everything including ports 80 and 443, often one has to u

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 09:29:08PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Last time I had to write a removal request I asked ChatGPT and it worked > well! is this debian-devel@ or -curiosa@? (&scnr) that said, I do realize that the verb "to google" slowly is becoming "to ask $chatgpt" or rather, that als

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

Hi, 在 12/11/2024 9:04 AM, Pirate Praveen 写道: On 12/11/24 7:30 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 12/11/24 6:35 PM, sre4e...@free.fr wrote: Le 2024-12-11 13:52, Pirate Praveen a écrit : reportbug can talk SMTP directly, is that not enough for you? without configuring an smtp server? If I run rep

Re: Bug tracker speed (was: Bits from DPL)

On 10.12.24 14:59, Boyuan Yang wrote: It's fine we are doing batch processing instead of instant reactive processing Yeah, but the batch delay time should still be zero, at least if the system is not busy. Kernel 2.6.13 introduced the "inotify" system call. There's the "inoticoming" package

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

Le 2024-12-11 15:00, Alec Leamas a écrit : Well, "some places" includes basically all home users, at least in Sweden where I live. This is not about ISPs blocking "some traffic", they only block outgoing smtp traffic on default ports. The reasons are obvious. Did you try to connect using TC

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On 12/11/24 7:30 PM, Alec Leamas wrote: On 12/11/24 6:35 PM, sre4e...@free.fr wrote: Le 2024-12-11 13:52, Pirate Praveen a écrit : reportbug can talk SMTP directly, is that not enough for you? without configuring an smtp server? If I run reportbug and clicks submit, does it send mail w

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On 12/11/24 6:35 PM, sre4e...@free.fr wrote: Le 2024-12-11 13:52, Pirate Praveen a écrit : reportbug can talk SMTP directly, is that not enough for you? without configuring an smtp server? If I run reportbug and clicks submit, does it send mail without any extra configurations? It does,

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On 2024-12-11, Pirate Praveen wrote: > Thanks, in that case, it is my mistake. I was always thinking it needs > an mta configured, may be this was a recent addition. Not sure if it was > there from the beginning. It has been by default using the submission port for default for ages, though not

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On 12/11/24 6:35 PM, sre4e...@free.fr wrote: Le 2024-12-11 13:52, Pirate Praveen a écrit : reportbug can talk SMTP directly, is that not enough for you? without configuring an smtp server? If I run reportbug and clicks submit, does it send mail without any extra configurations? It does,

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

Le 2024-12-11 13:52, Pirate Praveen a écrit : reportbug can talk SMTP directly, is that not enough for you? without configuring an smtp server? If I run reportbug and clicks submit, does it send mail without any extra configurations? It does, and that works for me (though maybe not from some

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On 12/11/24 6:10 PM, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 05:50:55PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: I think a reportbug web based front end that authenticates with salsa via oauth and sends emails without any email client needing to be configured will already help. Is it not alr

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 05:50:55PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > > I think a reportbug web based front end that authenticates with salsa > > > via oauth and sends emails without any email client needing to be > > > configured will already help. > > > > Is it not already the case that you can us

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

Le Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 05:50:55PM +0530, Pirate Praveen a écrit : > > As I said, it is not impossible, but a painful process. I use reportbug only > when I have to generate a template for rm requests, otherwise I always write > an email. We should avoid asking new people to run through hoops when

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On 12/11/24 5:20 PM, Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:04:52 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: I think a reportbug web based front end that authenticates with salsa via oauth and sends emails without any email client needing to be configured will already help. Is it not already the case

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:04:52 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: >I think a reportbug web based front end that authenticates with salsa >via oauth and sends emails without any email client needing to be >configured will already help. Is it not already the case that you can use reportbug without e-mail

Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

On 12/11/24 8:47 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 09:18:06AM +0100, Gard Spreemann a écrit : The BTS is core to Debian. It is e-mail based. While I personally think e-mail-based workflows can be quite nice, the BTS' asynchronous nature did cause me a lot of extra pointless w

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:04:44 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >sorry if it is too naive, but is there an easy way to determine for a >given Unicode string if it can be typed from a single keboard layout or >produced by a text-to-speech system? People who want a username because >of SSH, email and su