Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

[Boyuan Yang]

Hi,

在 12/11/2024 9:04 AM, Pirate Praveen 写道:

On 12/11/24 7:30 PM, Alec Leamas wrote:

On 12/11/24 6:35 PM, sre4e...@free.fr wrote:

Le 2024-12-11 13:52, Pirate Praveen a écrit :

reportbug can talk SMTP directly, is that not enough for you?

without configuring an smtp server? If I run reportbug and clicks submit, does it send mail without any extra configurations?

It does, and that works for me (though maybe not from some places that block some traffic).

Well, "some places" includes basically all home users, at least in Sweden where I live. This is not about ISPs blocking "some traffic", they only block outgoing smtp traffic on default ports. The reasons are obvious. That is, it's often a pain to set up outgoing SMTP. As a user you do it for your MTA since you just have to. But a CLI tool to report Debian bugs? Will not be configured by any newcomer if you ask me.

Many firewalls (for example in offices) also block almost every port other than 80 or 443. So it'd still be valuable to have a web based reportbug interface.

I support the idea of having something like the web interface of

I would like to add that while self-sustained SMTP facilities is useful, the reportbug tool has a strong assumption: it assumes that the bug reporter must be using Debian (or one of the Debian derivative, though we know it won't work well) when reporting the bug. This is an overly strong requirement that we as a project should avoid. https://reportbug.debian.org/ with user authentication provided by e.g., Salsa.d.o.

Thanks,
Boyuan Yang

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