On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:35:32 +0200, Lukas Märdian
wrote:
>I don't want people to think too much in terms of "sd-networkd VS Netplan",
>but rather in terms of "sd-networkd PLUS Netplan". Contributors to Netplan
>naturally build up knowledge in sd-networkd (and NetworkManager), so we would
>actually
On Tue, 16 Jul 2024 at 00:26, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 03:47:16PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > Assuming that's really needed, and it's far from clear that different
> > use cases should really use the exact same things, using
> > network-manager everywhere would achieve
On Jul 15, 2024 10:48 PM, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> and without being tied to
> the internal decisions made in Canonical that we cannot do anything to
> influence.
Could you please stop this FUD campaign ? We aren't talking about MIR or Unity,
but about a small tool to generate some configu
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 03:47:16PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> Assuming that's really needed, and it's far from clear that different
> use cases should really use the exact same things, using
> network-manager everywhere would achieve the exact same result,
> without pulling in additional depende
su 14. heinäk. 2024 klo 12.21 Martin-Éric Racine
(martin-eric.rac...@iki.fi) kirjoitti:
> Similarly, I have yet to hear any compelling reason for dropping all
> DHCP clients and ifupdown implementations from the default install and
> instead using networkd or for using netplan instead of ifupdown.
[Also adding Phil]
On 15.07.24 14:52, Andreas Ronnquist wrote:
Packages built for the i386 arch need to conform to the i386 baseline,
which is currently i686. If a package contains a newer instruction it's a
bug in that package and gcc is not the cause of it, the package is.
https://buildd.debia
On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 at 14:36, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> = "How to do networking on Debian?" =
>
> If we have to tell our users and sysadmins to do "X" on Debian server systems
> (using ifupdown or potentially sd-networkd), while doing "Y" on Debian desktop
> systems (using NetworkManager), while doin
On 15.07.24 16:06, Marvin Renich wrote:
* Lukas Märdian [240715 09:36]:
I don't want people to think too much in terms of "sd-networkd VS Netplan",
but rather in terms of "sd-networkd PLUS Netplan".
I'm a little confused. Much earlier in this thread it was stated that
ifupdown2 was out of th
* Lukas Märdian [240715 09:36]:
> I don't want people to think too much in terms of "sd-networkd VS Netplan",
> but rather in terms of "sd-networkd PLUS Netplan".
I'm a little confused. Much earlier in this thread it was stated that
ifupdown2 was out of the running simply because it brings in py
On 15.07.24 15:50, Luca Boccassi wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 19:21, Simon McVittie wrote:
Dependency size and maintenance
---
I also notice that the netplan.io package would bring GLib, Python,
python3-dbus and python3-yaml into the dependencies of the base system
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 19:21, Simon McVittie wrote:
> Dependency size and maintenance
> ---
>
> I also notice that the netplan.io package would bring GLib, Python,
> python3-dbus and python3-yaml into the dependencies of the base system,
> among others. As an upstream a
On 14.07.24 20:20, Simon McVittie wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 17:09:48 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Luca Boccassi wrote:
[...]
I understand what you're trying to say, but that's a disingenuous
comparison. systemd is a massive (some would say *too* massive)
project with fingers in many pies.
On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:31:30 +0500,
Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
>On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 01:42:50PM +0200, Andreas Ronnquist wrote:
>> I'm maintaining a package (filezilla) which just got a bug report that
>> it simply crashes on program start - It gets a SIGILL - "Illegal
>> instruction". (#107631
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 2:04 PM Andreas Ronnquist
wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I'm maintaining a package (filezilla) which just got a bug report that
> it simply crashes on program start - It gets a SIGILL - "Illegal
> instruction". (#1076312 report [1]).
>
> After the reporter debugged it, it seems like it
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 01:42:50PM +0200, Andreas Ronnquist wrote:
> I'm maintaining a package (filezilla) which just got a bug report that
> it simply crashes on program start - It gets a SIGILL - "Illegal
> instruction". (#1076312 report [1]).
>
> After the reporter debugged it, it seems like i
Hi
I'm maintaining a package (filezilla) which just got a bug report that
it simply crashes on program start - It gets a SIGILL - "Illegal
instruction". (#1076312 report [1]).
After the reporter debugged it, it seems like it crashes on the
assembler instruction "pinsrd", which looks like it was
On 7/14/24 18:09, Steve McIntyre wrote:
I understand what you're trying to say, but that's a disingenuous
comparison. systemd is a massive (some would say *too* massive)
project with fingers in many pies. How many of those people have
touched *networking* bits?
I agree.
Also, Netplan is just a
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