On Mon, 15 May 2017 at 18:40:34 -0300, Carlos Donizete Froes wrote:
> * Package name: minecraft
> Version : 0.1
> Upstream Author : Carlos Donizete Froes
> * URL : https://minecraft.net
> * License : BSD-2-Clause
> Programming Lang: Shell
This information doe
Hello,
Am 15.05.2017 um 21:45 schrieb Zlatan Todoric:
>
>
> On 05/15/2017 02:02 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 01:42:09PM +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
>>> On 15 May 2017 at 13:30, Paul Wise wrote:
TBH if I was confronted with the new LXDE web design with CSS
Jonathan Dowland dijo [Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:27:27AM +0100]:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > Nice to have:
> (snip)
> > - Mailinglists
>
> I've always thought it a bit weird, unfortunate (and possibly a historical
> accident)
> that we have lists.debian.org
> I'll take any day a sort animations that explains things rather then
> going through forest of information to figure out what is it, but I
> guess these all are personal opinions.
A tiny bit of animations should be enough for our homepage. The style
of lxde.org does not fit Debian's style and I
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> Right. IIRC that was said to me at Debconf16 about Debian-specific
> services (such as ci.debian.net which was the context of my question).
Yeah, for codebases maintained by the service maintainer not having
packages seems reasonable (bu
Let's begin with a sin of big screen users. Say, I am using 2560x1440
display, and the website is painful to view. Adding a max-width to the
container can help.
Secondly, I think the fonts can be larger and be less crowded (by
increasing line-height).
I think there are much more we can do even wi
On May 15 2017, Adam Borowski wrote:
>> https://www.debian.org/
>
> Not that different from Gentoo's. What's the problem you're seeing?
I think this is one of the those situations where if you don't see it
yourself right away, you'll just have to take other people's word for
it. It may not be th
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 02:17:40AM +0200, Stéphane Aulery wrote:
>
> Yes, Debian is a community like another, and a community is build
> with shared principles. Design isn't principle, it is just a shameful
> exploitation of the idea of beauty, serving a precise purpose which
> is not a shared pri
Hi,
On 05/16/2017 01:48 AM, Sean Whitton wrote:
>
> More generally, while I agree that we should be flexible in the pursuit
> of new contributors and users, we mustn't lose our identity in that
> process.
Improving things doesn't mean destroying identity. We add and remove
archs, we added graphi
Le 16/05/2017 02:27, Ben Hutchings a écrit :
On Tue, 2017-05-16 at 02:17 +0200, Stéphane Aulery wrote:
[...]
Yes, Debian is a community like another, and a community is build
with shared principles. Design isn't principle, it is just a shameful
exploitation of the idea of beauty, serving a preci
On Tue, 2017-05-16 at 02:17 +0200, Stéphane Aulery wrote:
[...]
> Yes, Debian is a community like another, and a community is build
> with shared principles. Design isn't principle, it is just a shameful
> exploitation of the idea of beauty, serving a precise purpose which
> is not a shared princip
Le 16/05/2017 01:48, Sean Whitton a écrit :
Hello Zlatan,
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:45:46PM +0200, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
Then lets forget about getting newcomers (fresh blood) to Debian as
you're so close minded to modern/new things - the same way they
probably
close the window when they see
Thank you for updating us, Alex.
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> - Git Hosting - we want to give pagure [1] a try, which uses gitolite, which
> is a
> nice git solution.
Ah, that's nice.
> Pagure also has issue tracking.
Is it possible to turn this off?
I t
Hello Zlatan,
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:45:46PM +0200, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
> Then lets forget about getting newcomers (fresh blood) to Debian as
> you're so close minded to modern/new things - the same way they probably
> close the window when they see '90 style with a lot of text that
> actual
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On 2017-05-15.15:02, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> http://lxde.org/ seems to be the site in question. I agree with Paul,
> I don't like it, and when I encounter pages in that style, I tend to
> close the window.
>
> * It's not nearly information-dense enough. www.debian.org is too
> dense, but the lxde
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On 05/15/2017 08:01 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:12:26AM +, lumin wrote:
>> On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 11:19 +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
>>> Our users are really complaining about our look&feel in the web and we
>>> should address it.
>> I'm looking forward to a
On 05/15/2017 03:01 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:39:25PM +, Medical Wei wrote:
>> As for concerns of not informative, i think the informative part should be
>> placed in the wiki and/or have few recent articles in display. The home
>> page should be able to attract peop
On 05/15/2017 02:02 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 01:42:09PM +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
>> On 15 May 2017 at 13:30, Paul Wise wrote:
>>> TBH if I was confronted with the new LXDE web design with CSS turned
>>> on, I would probably just close the page. The old pag
On 05/15/2017 01:42 PM, Hans wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> just a suggestion/idea. IMO it might be a good idea and advertisement to
> debian, if people could see on the website, that debian is one of the most
> used linuces in the world. It should also be strong pointed to, that debian
> is
> the s
On 05/14/2017 11:50 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 23:26 +0200, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
>> On 05/14/2017 11:06 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>>> Here's a tally of live packaging repositories hosted on Alioth, based
>>> on Vcs fields for sources in unstable:
>>>
>>> $ for type in arch b
On 05/15/2017 12:32 PM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:12 PM, lumin wrote:
>
>> https://www.debian.org/
>>
>> We are the last major distro that move to systemd as the
>> default init system. And now we are the last major distro
>> that keeps an old design of homepage.
> I'd like to
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 08:01:40PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> A good page is one that lets you find information quickly, [...]
which sadly www.debian.org doesnt deliver. I still use the sitemap to find
*anything*… and even with that, I still also resort to bookmarks
and search engines.
it's n
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 08:01:40PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> I'd really prefer a website written by a programmer
[...]
> A good page is one that lets you find information quickly
Which is not the same.
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On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:12:26AM +, lumin wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 11:19 +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> > Our users are really complaining about our look&feel in the web and we
> > should address it.
>
> I'm looking forward to a new design of our homepage, but I'm not
> able t
Le 15/05/2017 à 14:43, Johannes Schauer a écrit :
> 205 Debian Java Maintainers
The Java Team is gradually migrating its packages to Git. This usually
happens when a package needs an update. The SVN usage peaked 3 years ago
at 416 packages, and we are now mostly left with rarely updated pack
On May 15 2017, gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2017 14:43:56 +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote:
>
>> Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2017-05-15 10:25:30)
>> > ^ how many of these are from teams (like pkg-gnome, at one point at least)
>> > who want to switch to git but lack the time or person-power
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 07:53:59PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
>
> > This is a common misconception. DSA does *not* require that the service
> > is packaged. On the contrary, they say it's better if the service is
> > *not* from a package beca
On Mon, 15 May 2017, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:41:09AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > Our list setup is pretty special and I don't think we will ever be able to
> > move to something else (and there are not many alternatives. Mailman 3 is
> > not
> > really an option)
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:41:09AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> Our list setup is pretty special and I don't think we will ever be able to
> move to something else (and there are not many alternatives. Mailman 3 is not
> really an option).
Disappointing to hear you have ruled out Mailman 3 entir
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 04:01:36PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> Non-informative frontpages like the LXDE one are what scares me away.
Actually I agree as a user already using GNU/Linux, but for new users it
might have different experience.
> The contents of the Gentoo homepage is similar to what D
Bonjour,
Il ne vous reste que quelques jours pour profiter de notre promotion 1
formation achetée = 1 formation offerte.
Pour rappel, la formation offerte peut être la même formation à offrir à un
proche ... ou alors une autre formation, pour vous. Il suffit simplement que la
2eme formation,
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:39:25PM +, Medical Wei wrote:
> As for concerns of not informative, i think the informative part should be
> placed in the wiki and/or have few recent articles in display. The home
> page should be able to attract people to use Debian rather than scaring
> people away
On Mon, 15 May 2017 14:43:56 +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2017-05-15 10:25:30)
> > ^ how many of these are from teams (like pkg-gnome, at one point at least)
> > who want to switch to git but lack the time or person-power or motivation to
> > perform the task?
> The
Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2017-05-15 10:25:30)
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:06:06PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > git: 18907
> > svn: 2377
>
> ^ how many of these are from teams (like pkg-gnome, at one point at least)
> who want to switch to git but lack the time or person-power or motivation to
Also, as for concerns of i18n, getfedora.org gives us a good example that
it is translatable while being stylish. Though it seems that the page is
heavily purposed as a download page.
On Mon, 15 May 2017 at 20:39 Medical Wei wrote:
> As for concerns of not informative, i think the informative pa
As for concerns of not informative, i think the informative part should be
placed in the wiki and/or have few recent articles in display. The home
page should be able to attract people to use Debian rather than scaring
people away.
Thanks for the comments too!
On Mon, 15 May 2017 at 20:10 Hans wr
Le 15/05/2017 13:42, Hans a écrit :
just a suggestion/idea. IMO it might be a good idea and advertisement
to
debian, if people could see on the website, that debian is one of the
most
used linuces in the world. It should also be strong pointed to, that
debian is
the source of ubuntu. You may
Hi there,
just a suggestion/idea. IMO it might be a good idea and advertisement to
debian, if people could see on the website, that debian is one of the most
used linuces in the world. It should also be strong pointed to, that debian is
the source of ubuntu. You may also point to, that debian
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 01:42:09PM +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> On 15 May 2017 at 13:30, Paul Wise wrote:
> > TBH if I was confronted with the new LXDE web design with CSS turned
> > on, I would probably just close the page. The old page is way more
> > informative and less heavy on the
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> This is a common misconception. DSA does *not* require that the service
> is packaged. On the contrary, they say it's better if the service is
> *not* from a package because this way the service admin does not need to
> have root access on
On Mon, 15 May 2017, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 03:04:26PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> > On ഞായര് 14 മെയ് 2017 02:46 വൈകു, Yao Wei wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Are there a discussion list of people working on the issue? I'd like to
> > > follow and see if there's any I
Le 15/05/2017 12:54, Medical Wei a écrit :
> I think we need to start having a catchphrase and things that can attract new
> users.
>
> What I know is that we have revised our design but that is not attractive
> enough.
It's just that this sort of things is like black holes. You can't expect
f
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 03:04:26PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> On ഞായര് 14 മെയ് 2017 02:46 വൈകു, Yao Wei wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Are there a discussion list of people working on the issue? I'd like to
> > follow and see if there's any I could help.
> >
> > If no, could this issue be submitted
On 15 May 2017 at 13:30, Paul Wise wrote:
> TBH if I was confronted with the new LXDE web design with CSS turned
> on, I would probably just close the page. The old page is way more
> informative and less heavy on the marketing.
>
Hi Paul,
I believe that what we are actually looking for is a bit
On 2017, മേയ് 15 5:00:13 PM IST, Paul Wise wrote:
>TBH if I was confronted with the new LXDE web design with CSS turned
>on, I would probably just close the page. The old page is way more
>informative and less heavy on the marketing.
Are we confusing website with documentation/user manual?
--
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Medical Wei wrote:
> I think we need to start having a catchphrase
Check:
$ curl -s https://www.debian.org/ | grep ''
Debian -- The Universal Operating System
> What I know is that we have revised our design but that is not attractive
> enough.
We revised ou
On 15 May 2017 at 12:12, Geert Stappers wrote:
>
>
>> Our users are really complaining about our look&feel in the web
>> and we should address it.
>
> "we should do so many things"
> Thing I say about it: Please do.
>
Of course, that's my view too.
Unfortunately, I don't have the web abilities
On Mon, 15 May 2017, Alexander Wirt wrote:
Hi,
> > I am worried about the status of FusionForge (and thus the development
> > workflow
> > around Alioth) for Debian.
> >
> > Recently I had a discussion on #alioth @OFTC asking for the possibility or
> > plan of upgrading alioth.debian.org from
On Mon, 15 May 2017, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:41:09AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 May 2017, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > > > Nice to have:
> > > (snip)
> > > > - Mailinglists
> > >
> > >
I think we need to start having a catchphrase and things that can attract
new users.
What I know is that we have revised our design but that is not attractive
enough.
(I did lxde.org from old.lxde.org but I don't know if that seems
"attractive".)
On Mon, 15 May 2017 at 18:33 Paul Wise wrote:
>
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:12 PM, lumin wrote:
> https://www.debian.org/
>
> We are the last major distro that move to systemd as the
> default init system. And now we are the last major distro
> that keeps an old design of homepage.
I'd like to point out that what you are seeing is the *new* desi
On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 11:19 +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> On 14 May 2017 at 11:58, lumin wrote:
> > On the other hand, I fancy modern platforms such
> > as Gitlab, as a user. And wondering when Debian
> > will update its homepage (www.d.o) to a modern
> > design[1].
> >
> > [1] This is
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:41:09AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2017, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > > Nice to have:
> > (snip)
> > > - Mailinglists
> >
> > I've always thought it a bit weird, unfortunate (and possib
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On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 11:19:47AM +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> On 14 May 2017 at 11:58, lumin wrote:
> > On the other hand, I fancy modern platforms such
> > as Gitlab, as a user. And wondering when Debian
>
On 14 May 2017 at 11:58, lumin wrote:
> On the other hand, I fancy modern platforms such
> as Gitlab, as a user. And wondering when Debian
> will update its homepage (www.d.o) to a modern
> design[1].
>
> [1] This is off-thread, but some of my young
> friends just gave up trying Debian at the
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:50:20PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 23:26 +0200, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
> > Or convert svn ones to git and simplify things?
+1
> I suspect this was one of the messier repositories, but I'm also sure
> it's not the only one that could not be hand
On Mon, 15 May 2017, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > Nice to have:
> (snip)
> > - Mailinglists
>
> I've always thought it a bit weird, unfortunate (and possibly a historical
> accident)
> that we have lists.debian.org and lists.alioth
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:13:11AM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> Nice to have:
(snip)
> - Mailinglists
I've always thought it a bit weird, unfortunate (and possibly a historical
accident)
that we have lists.debian.org and lists.alioth.debian.org. Could this be an
opportunity
to move to one Debi
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:06:06PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> git: 18907
> svn: 2377
^ how many of these are from teams (like pkg-gnome, at one point at least) who
want
to switch to git but lack the time or person-power or motivation to perform the
task?
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On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:29:10PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> If we had this GR in say, a month, projects would have almost a year to
> migrate
> their stuff away nicely, and 18 months to do it a bit more painfully.
I can see the attraction of this, and it would certainly be easier to get
proj
在 2017年5月14日星期日 +08 下午6:39:22，Sergio Durigan Junior 写道：
> On Sunday, May 14 2017, Boyuan Yang wrote:
> > 在 2017年5月14日星期日 CST 下午3:04:26，Pirate Praveen 写道：
> >
> >> As far as I understand, the only thing that is blocking is non
> >> availability of pagure package.
> >>
> >> So helping fix this woul
On Sun, 14 May 2017, Boyuan Yang wrote:
Hi,
> I am worried about the status of FusionForge (and thus the development
> workflow
> around Alioth) for Debian.
>
> Recently I had a discussion on #alioth @OFTC asking for the possibility or
> plan of upgrading alioth.debian.org from Wheezy to newe
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