Re: apache2 issues

2014-07-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op dinsdag 29 juli 2014 08:02:43 schreef Jean-Christophe Dubacq: > [ ⏰ 29/07/2014 07:55 ] [ ✎ Wouter Verhelst ] > > > Op dinsdag 29 juli 2014 10:51:45 schreef Brian May: > >> So ideally I only want to depend on libapache2-mod-wsgi if apache2 is > >> installed, but this is not possible. > > > > Su

Re: apache2 issues

2014-07-28 Thread Josh Triplett
Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: >[ ⏰ 29/07/2014 07:55 ] [ ✎ Wouter Verhelst ] >> Op dinsdag 29 juli 2014 10:51:45 schreef Brian May: >>> So ideally I only want to depend on libapache2-mod-wsgi if apache2 is >>> installed, but this is not possible. >> Sure it is. >> >> Depends: apache2 | libapache2-mo

Re: apache2 issues

2014-07-28 Thread Brian May
On 29 July 2014 16:02, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > You surely meant httpd |libapache2-mod-wsgi, apache2 | httpd . > ​ > Not convinced that will work. e.g. if apache-bin is already installed, that will satisfy the httpd dependency, so it won't look at libapache2-mod-wsgi. -- Brian May

Re: apache2 issues

2014-07-28 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
[ ⏰ 29/07/2014 07:55 ] [ ✎ Wouter Verhelst ] > Op dinsdag 29 juli 2014 10:51:45 schreef Brian May: >> So ideally I only want to depend on libapache2-mod-wsgi if apache2 is >> installed, but this is not possible. > Sure it is. > > Depends: apache2 | libapache2-mod-wsgi, apache2 | httpd > > is perfe

Re: apache2 issues

2014-07-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op dinsdag 29 juli 2014 10:51:45 schreef Brian May: > So ideally I only want to depend on libapache2-mod-wsgi if apache2 is > installed, but this is not possible. Sure it is. Depends: apache2 | libapache2-mod-wsgi, apache2 | httpd is perfectly legal and will do what you want. -- It is easy to

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 29, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > security maintenance burden. Nonetheless, libav10 transition is still > not complete in utopic today. I haven't checked, but now abi > compatible/incompatible the two stacks are? cause it would be a pain They really are not, this was explained in detail in

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 28 July 2014 15:05, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > On 28.07.2014 13:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >> >> On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Norbert Preining wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Reinhard Tartler wrote: In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is more than

Re: apache2 issues

2014-07-28 Thread Brian May
On 29 July 2014 09:40, Brian May wrote: > Fair enough, change that depends to depends on "apache2 | httpd". > > However, now when I install it, for reasons I don't understand, apt-get > prefers to install apache2-bin over apache2 (thought it should default to > the first item???). This provides h

apache2 issues

2014-07-28 Thread Brian May
Hello, Just noticed some issues with my web application package, and not sure what to do about them, or who to contact. Apologies if these issues have already been discussed, the other threads seem to focus around upgrading binary modules (at quick glance). First, my package triggered the followi

Re: How Debian should handle users requests?

2014-07-28 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > On Mon, 2014-07-28 at 17:31 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > No. There are also those which won't be fixed because we are never > > going to get enough useful information, no matter how hard we try. > > This is generally the case with user support request

Re: Debconf - how to run a packaging workshop

2014-07-28 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 09:08:36AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > On 14/07/14 at 16:46 +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've agreed to give a one day Debian packaging workshop at $dayjob aimed at > > sysadmins and developers, and I'd be interested in hearing from those

ppp maxfail default value

2014-07-28 Thread Tsendrovskii Vladislav
Hello! In file /etc/ppp/options by default parameter maxfail is not set, so it's equal 10. This can make problems for not skilled users. I think, that users, who really need to limit maxfail parameter, in any case should read manuals to write their own config. But for users, who don't need it

Re: How Debian should handle users requests?

2014-07-28 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Mon, 2014-07-28 at 17:31 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Abou Al Montacir writes ("Re: How Debian should handle users requests?"): > > On Fri, 2014-07-25 at 13:24 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > On the contrary, we should definitely close bugs which are very > > > unlikely to produce any actionable

Re: bzip2 and multiarch transition

2014-07-28 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 08:59:26PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > I guess you could offer lib32bz2 as a transitional package on the 32bit > arch, depending on libbz2 of its own arch and vice versa for lib64? Since when does apt consider a:amd64 -> a:i386 a valid upgrade path? The only reason to shi

Re: Bug#755382: ITP: fonts-adobe-sourcehansans-cn -- “Source Han Sans CN” A sans-serif Pan-CJK font family (CN subset) that is offered in seven weights

2014-07-28 Thread Changwoo Ryu
Have a look at #754926 (fonts-noto). Adobe Source Han Sans fonts are actually the same with Google's Noto Sans CJK ones. Just different names. Personally I prefer Noto as the name. Noto sounds more distinctive than Source to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: bzip2 and multiarch transition

2014-07-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 08:59:26PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 09:27:20AM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > > On 28 July 2014 06:38, wrote: > > > I've just uploaded a new bzip2 revision and I think I need to revert a > > > change. bzip2 used to build cross architecture

Re: bzip2 and multiarch transition

2014-07-28 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 09:27:20AM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 28 July 2014 06:38, wrote: > > I've just uploaded a new bzip2 revision and I think I need to revert a > > change. bzip2 used to build cross architecture lib{32,64}bz2* packages, > > but multiarch has obsoleted them. To stop

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 04:05:46PM +0200, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > On 28.07.2014 13:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > >On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Norbert Preining wrote: > >>On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > >>>In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is more > >

Re: How Debian should handle users requests?

2014-07-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Abou Al Montacir writes ("Re: How Debian should handle users requests?"): > On Fri, 2014-07-25 at 13:24 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > On the contrary, we should definitely close bugs which are very > > unlikely to produce any actionable information. ... > There are two kinds of those bugs: those we

Re: unlocking encfs during boot (Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing)

2014-07-28 Thread Cameron Norman
El lun, 28 de jul 2014 a las 8:21 , Michael Biebl escribió: Am 28.07.2014 16:53, schrieb Michael Biebl: --8<--- [Unit] Description=Unlock EncFS DefaultDependencies=no After=local-fs.target Before=display-manager.service getty@tty1.service [Service] Type=oneshot RemainAft

Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz

2014-07-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Let's shrink Packages.xz"): > Ian Jackson writes: > > But the problem with lots of small packages is not that the Packages.xz > > has too many bytes. > > > > It's that the packaging tools, UIs (for users and developers), and > > humans, need to think about too many packag

Bug#756305: ITP: drupal8 -- fully-featured content management framework

2014-07-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gunnar Wolf * Package name: drupal8 Version : 8.0 Upstream Author : Dries Buytaert * URL : http://www.drupal.org/ * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: PHP Description : fully-featured content management framework

Re: unlocking encfs during boot (Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing)

2014-07-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.07.2014 16:53, schrieb Michael Biebl: > --8<--- > [Unit] > Description=Unlock EncFS > DefaultDependencies=no > After=local-fs.target > Before=display-manager.service getty@tty1.service > > [Service] > Type=oneshot > RemainAfterExit=true > Environment=RootDir=/home/.encfs/crypt >

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Scott Kitterman (2014-07-28 14:54:29) > It is quite common for people to fix things based on the initial discussion > about an impending MBF, so I think it would be less than impolite to not > acknowledge that by filing bugs on obsolete data. > > The two packages that I show up for ar

Re: [Pkg-swan-devel] say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-28 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 07/28/14 11:38, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > I don't currently use the network-manager strongSwan plugin but that's > mostly because it doesn't work. AFAICT it didn't work due to #741415. Today its broken again. It says Could not find VPN plugin service for 'org.freedesktop.

Re: unlocking encfs during boot (Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing)

2014-07-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi, Am 28.07.2014 01:54, schrieb Christian Hofstaedtler: > * Michael Biebl [140727 23:09]: >> Am 22.07.2014 23:54, schrieb Julian Gilbey: >>> For me, this is a killer, as I still do not know how to solve the >>> problem I asked a while back on debian-user >>> (https://lists.debian.org/debian-user

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:07:58 +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Quoting gregor herrmann (2014-07-28 11:45:14) > > > ==> libxml-parser-perl_2.41-1.arch-all.unusedbd <== > > > sharutils=1:4.14-2 > > Already fixed in 2.41-2. > thanks! Thanks to you for providing the lists :) > > I assume you're plan

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
On 28.07.2014 13:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Norbert Preining wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Reinhard Tartler wrote: In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is more than uncomfortable with having more than one copy of libavcodec in debian/testin

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:32:00AM +, Thorsten Glaser a écrit : > > There are lots of duckduckgo results for "systemd > screen session" where people describe systemd killing their > GNU screen sessions, changing config files to avoid it, > only for the next systemd upgrade to kill their GNU sc

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Niv Sardi
El 28/07/2014 08:53, "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" escribió: > However: > > The change in Debian-specific symbol versioning and sonames being done to > ffmpeg so that it is co-installable with libav *is* a problem. > > It has to be done in coordination with the Canonical guys, so that both > Debia

Bug#756291: (no subject)

2014-07-28 Thread Olivier Sallou
Subject: ITP: prodigal -- microbial (bacterial and archaeal) gene finding program Package: wnpp Owner: Olivier Sallou Severity: wishlist * Package name: prodigal Version : 2.60 Upstream Author : Doug Hyatt * URL : http://prodigal.ornl.gov/ * License : GPL Pr

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
On 28.07.2014 13:24, Alessio Treglia wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, "IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)" wrote: Except that, for a lot of the depending packages, there would be an immediate benefit in the number of bugs fixed. at least in theory. Plus I would definitely appreciate

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
On 28.07.2014 12:20, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: * Do you intend to replace Libav by FFmpeg in Debian? No, there is no need to replace anything as long as it is maintained. Currently the main goal is to give multimedia maintainers a choice between the two sets

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Holger, On 28.07.2014 13:22, Holger Levsen wrote: On Montag, 28. Juli 2014, Niv Sardi wrote: As described in Andreas thorough mail, there are only 2 packages that can't use both (and iirc they currently FTBFS as upstream uses FFmpeg) and 5 packages that could need a transition, so the releas

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 28, 2014 08:54:29 Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Monday, July 28, 2014 12:07:58 Johannes Schauer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Quoting gregor herrmann (2014-07-28 11:45:14) > > > > > > ==> libxml-parser-perl_2.41-1.arch-all.unusedbd <== > > > > sharutils=1:4.14-2 > > > > > > Already fixed

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 28, 2014 12:07:58 Johannes Schauer wrote: > Hi, > > Quoting gregor herrmann (2014-07-28 11:45:14) > > > > ==> libxml-parser-perl_2.41-1.arch-all.unusedbd <== > > > sharutils=1:4.14-2 > > > > Already fixed in 2.41-2. > > thanks! > > > I assume you're planning to do a new run bef

Bug#756279: ITP: ui-gxmlcpp -- High-level C++ wrapper library for libxml2/libxslt

2014-07-28 Thread Stephan Sürken
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Stephan Sürken" * Package name: ui-gxmlcpp Version : 1.4.3 (tarball to be released on SF soon) Upstream Author : Stephan Sürken * URL : http://ui-gxmlcpp.sourceforge.net/ * License : LGPL2+ Programming Lang: C++ Des

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 (resending, to keep debian-devel and the bug-report in the loop) personally i would welcome if both libav and ffmpeg could co-exist within Debian¹. as i see it, libav and ffmpeg have diverged, and as such i would like to have the choice which one to

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is more > > than uncomfortable with having more than one copy of libavcodec in > > debian/testing. In consequence this means that any package

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 28. Juli 2014, Niv Sardi wrote: > As described in Andreas thorough mail, there are only 2 packages that can't > use both (and iirc they currently FTBFS as upstream uses FFmpeg) and 5 > packages that could need a transition, so the release team can just pop an > RC bug on ffmpeg unti

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Alessio Treglia
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, "IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)" wrote: >> Except that, for a lot of the depending packages, there would be an >> immediate benefit in the number of bugs fixed. > > at least in theory. Plus I would definitely appreciate to see some bug stats supporting such a t

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, I cannot believe I attached the wrong list once again. My sincere apologies to fill up your inboxes like that :( Attached are the right files and dd-list Quoting Johannes Schauer (2014-07-28 11:34:24) > bison, ca-certificates, default-jdk, doxygen-latex, g++-4.8-multilib, > gcc-multilib, gcj

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Julien, On 28.07.2014 10:44, Julien Cristau wrote: It remains to be seen, what the release team prefers: frustrated users and developers or both forks in jessie. The release team is likely to let the people involved in multimedia foo fight it out among themselves and pick a winner. I am n

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-28 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, On 07/28/2014 12:32, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> Screen sessions, SSH sessions and computation processes running in >> background are lost after a reboot, not after a relogin. > > AIUI this is not true for systemd: once the "session" is > terminated, all background proc

Re: people.debian.org will move from ravel to paradis and become HTTPS only

2014-07-28 Thread Agustin Martin
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 02:00:12PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Dixi quod… > > >Martin Zobel-Helas dixit: > > > >>Furthermore, we will change the people.debian.org web-service such that > >>only HTTPS connections will be supported (unencrypted requests will be > >>redirected). > […] > >Take it

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Niv Sardi
El 28/07/2014 07:40, "Jonathan Dowland" escribió: > > On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 08:05:22PM -0400, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > I think it would be best if ftp-master left the ffmpeg package in NEW > > until an answer to this problem has been found. > > That would leave people who are eagerly awaiting

Re: systemd now appears to be only possible init system in testing

2014-07-28 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Vincent Lefevre wrote: >Screen sessions, SSH sessions and computation processes running in >background are lost after a reboot, not after a relogin. AIUI this is not true for systemd: once the "session" is terminated, all background processes run in it are killed too. There are lots of duckduckgo

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 08:05:22PM -0400, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > I think it would be best if ftp-master left the ffmpeg package in NEW > until an answer to this problem has been found. That would leave people who are eagerly awaiting ffmpeg(1) stranded in limbo whilst the tangential library iss

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting gregor herrmann (2014-07-28 11:45:14) > > ==> libxml-parser-perl_2.41-1.arch-all.unusedbd <== > > sharutils=1:4.14-2 > > Already fixed in 2.41-2. thanks! > I assume you're planning to do a new run before actually filing the > bugs? I cannot do a new run before September because I'm

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 28, Alessio Treglia wrote: > Personally I don't feel like dropping libav in favor of ffmpeg now at > this stage. It's too late for Jessie. Except that, for a lot of the depending packages, there would be an immediate benefit in the number of bugs fixed. Personally I feel that we have inf

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Alessio Treglia
Ciao, On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: > The release team is likely to let the people involved in multimedia foo > fight it out among themselves and pick a winner. We're not going to > ship both and hand that mess over to the security team. Personally I don't feel like dro

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:34:24 +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote: > I attached the updated list of droppable build dependencies and build > dependencies that can be moved to Build-Depends-Indep together with dd-list > output. > ==> libxml-parser-perl_2.41-1.arch-all.unusedbd <== > sharutils=1:4.14-2 A

Re: [Pkg-swan-devel] say goodbye to network-manager-strongswan?

2014-07-28 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2014-07-16 at 15:08 +0200, Romain Francoise wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 03:40:13PM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote: > > Since you seem to know the software well, and it is important for you, > > perhaps you can take over maintainence of the package? The current > > maintainer doesn't seem to

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Johannes Schauer (2014-07-07 13:51:00) > we would like to propose an MBF with severity wishlist to drop unused build > dependencies in a number of source packages I fixed many of the previous false positives of build dependencies on meta packages (not the file contents of the package

Re: Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 03:39:29 +0200, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > Hi Reinhard, > > On 28.07.2014 02:05, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > >On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Andreas Cadhalpun > > wrote: > > > >> * Does it make sense for me to switch my package? > >>The rule of thumb is, if your upstr

Re: bzip2 and multiarch transition

2014-07-28 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 28 July 2014 06:38, wrote: > Hi, > > (Please CC me when answering) > > I've just uploaded a new bzip2 revision and I think I need to revert a > change. bzip2 used to build cross architecture lib{32,64}bz2* packages, > but multiarch has obsoleted them. To stop building those packages (and > clo