On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 10:43:57PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2006, Peter Samuelson wrote:
> > [Peter Eisentraut]
> > > What do you think about this request? It seems reasonable, but I
> [...]
> > This issue was mentioned in the /run discussion we just had on this
The monthly Debian Installer team meeting which was initially
scheduled for January 14th is reported to January 21st, as several D-I
developers will attend the "Extremadura session" about the graphical
installer development
(http://wiki.debian.org/WorkSessionsExtremadura).
Topics for the meeting a
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 01:22:57PM -0500, Benjamin Mesing wrote:
> > > So please disregard my statement against "testing"
> > (In this case, xterm could have had a conflict with your package to
> > avoid screwing users over unnoticed; and we could (in future) have added
> > a note to the testing s
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006, Peter Samuelson wrote:
> [Peter Eisentraut]
> > What do you think about this request? It seems reasonable, but I
[...]
> This issue was mentioned in the /run discussion we just had on this
> list. I'm in favor of forcing all init scripts to mkdir -p
Do it. We are *heavly
[Peter Eisentraut]
> What do you think about this request? It seems reasonable, but I
> think if this should be supported, there ought to be a general policy
> (formal or informal) on it because I think many other init scripts
> will suffer from similar problems.
This issue was mentioned in the
[Roger Leigh]
> In the case of someone who attaches a patch to a bug report, I think
> getting a mention in the Debian (or upstream) ChangeLog is
> sufficient.
Indeed, back in the days when reporting a bug and attaching a patch was
all I was willing to spend time doing, I thought a mention in the
Maurits van Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm wondering what the best place is to put a local Debian package
> repository. Directories that spring to mind are:
[...]
> - /srv/debian
> According to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard the /src dir is for
> Data for services provided by th
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Hi, i'm campanoni simone and i'm working on a project named WSS (World
Simulator Server); i'd like that this project will be added in a
debian distribution.
The reasons on why i would like that are mainly three:
~- i'd like to think that the wss p
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 08:31:26PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > Afaict from the webpage 7zip (LZMA) is quite a bit slower bzip2. -
> > Have you perhaps run some benchmarks?
> Memory use during decompression would be interesting, too.
For pure lzma it isn't really bad, it's about 100kb + direct
Hi,
I'm wondering what the best place is to put a local Debian package
repository. Directories that spring to mind are:
- /var/www/debian
This eases access via e.g. Apache (though a soft link here to
another dir would work fine as well of course)
- /srv/debian
According to the Filesyste
Am Donnerstag, den 05.01.2006, 00:03 +0100 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:
> When I try to upgrade one of my machines running testing, I get a
> warning about a missing public key:
>
> [...]
> W: GPG error: http://ftp.no.debian.org testing Release: The
> following signatures couldn't be verif
When I try to upgrade one of my machines running testing, I get a
warning about a missing public key:
[...]
W: GPG error: http://ftp.no.debian.org testing Release: The
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F
W: Yo
Hi
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:33:26 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
> On Jan 04, Nathan Poznick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have a USB card reader which has 5 different slots for various media.
> > If I plug in the card reader and then later insert a CF card, the CF
> > card slot
What do you think about this request? It seems reasonable, but I think if
this should be supported, there ought to be a general policy (formal or
informal) on it because I think many other init scripts will suffer from
similar problems.
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Hello
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 12:23:32PM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote:
> First, thanks to Lars for drawing our attention to an important topic
> and for taking an initiative that is long overdue.
>
> Lars, I agree fully with what you say. When it comes to team
> maintenance I would go even further t
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Oh, come on. vim-tiny entered the archive this week. The fact that we
> have some slow buildds and ports like hurd-i386 that are perennially
> behind is irrelevant to this discussion unless you can point to a build
> failure log.
Maybe we shouldn't switch t
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Spare disk space isn't available to add amd64 to mirrors.
> Spare bandwith isn't available to add amd64 to mirrors.
I see. Can we please have the numbers? Exactly how much disk space
is needed? Perhaps we can simply go ahead and buy more disks
(Moving this thread to d-www where this is more on-topic.)
On Wednesday 04 January 2006 20:58, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> I was reading http://www.us.debian.org/doc/ and found a link to
> "Installation guide for Debian 2.2" (at the end of the page). I am
> thinking with sarge release this is som
I was reading http://www.us.debian.org/doc/ and found a link to
"Installation guide for Debian 2.2" (at the end of the page). I am
thinking with sarge release this is somewhat outdated and might send
wrong hints to the end user browsing the website. I think this link
should be removed. Any idea
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:41:38PM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote:
> Anthony Towns:
> > Anyway, the real point of replying was for me to have some fun playing
> > (what I'll hereby dub) the false dichotomy game. That's where you take
> > a set of contradictory statements, and setup reasonable scenarios w
Scripsit Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> People who do not want to undergo that process can just help
> out current developers, fix bugs, send patches, etc.
Why are you then disagreeing with Andreas when he said that we should
make the possibility of doing this more visible?
> I
Anthony Towns:
> Anyway, the real point of replying was for me to have some fun playing
> (what I'll hereby dub) the false dichotomy game. That's where you take
> a set of contradictory statements, and setup reasonable scenarios where,
> in fact, both alternatives are true simultaneously.
I'd call
Hello,
I have a question on how aptitude decides which packages
to install to satisfy dependencies. I was installing vtk yesterday
and it depends on xlibmesa-gl | libgl1. Aptitude chose to install
xlibmesa-gl which in turn broke my x-window-system-core
metapackage. However, I was able to manually
Jiri Palecek wrote:
Hello,
I have a question on how aptitude decides which packages
to install to satisfy dependencies. I was installing vtk yesterday
and it depends on xlibmesa-gl | libgl1. Aptitude chose to install
xlibmesa-gl which in turn broke my x-window-system-core
metapackage. However, I
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 01:11:00PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
> > For the installer, sure, but the generation of the d-i kernel .udebs is only
> > marginally of their relevance, and furthermore they don't want the
> > responsability associated with it, and as proof i can show you
On Jan 04, Nathan Poznick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a USB card reader which has 5 different slots for various media.
> If I plug in the card reader and then later insert a CF card, the CF
> card slot's device does not have the partition device created when using
> udev (I have to insert
Nathan Poznick wrote:
> Thus spake Roger Leigh:
>> What is the problem this is trying to solve?
>>
>> If the partition table is being changed, the tool that changed it
>> should issue a BLKRRPART ioctl, like fdisk does for example (see
>> ).
>
> I have a USB card reader which has 5 different slo
Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi Daniel!
> You wrote:
>> Debian QA Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>libubit-dev
> Maybe this package should just be removed? It doesn't have any reverse
> dependencies afaics, and hasn't had a non-QA upload since feb 2004.
Already requested with ftp
Hello,
> > So please disregard my statement against "testing"
>
[..]
> (In this case, xterm could have had a conflict with your package to
> avoid screwing users over unnoticed; and we could (in future) have added
> a note to the testing scripts to not allow upgrades of xterm until a
> fixed vers
Sven Luther wrote:
> For the installer, sure, but the generation of the d-i kernel .udebs is only
> marginally of their relevance, and furthermore they don't want the
> responsability associated with it, and as proof i can show you that joeyh
> upgraded kernel-wedge and the x86 d-i module udebs, bu
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Le mercredi 04 janvier 2006 à 14:21 +0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
>> On Jan 04, "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > udev has broken my system -- completely (as in: can't boot and/or log in)
>> > --
>> > _seven_ distinct times s
Hello,
I have a question on how aptitude decides which packages
to install to satisfy dependencies. I was installing vtk yesterday
and it depends on xlibmesa-gl | libgl1. Aptitude chose to install
xlibmesa-gl which in turn broke my x-window-system-core
metapackage. However, I was able to manually f
Thus spake Roger Leigh:
> What is the problem this is trying to solve?
>
> If the partition table is being changed, the tool that changed it
> should issue a BLKRRPART ioctl, like fdisk does for example (see
> ).
I have a USB card reader which has 5 different slots for various media.
If I plug in
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Michal Čihař <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This demon periodically opens devices (files) listed in configuration.
> Main reason is to force rescanning of partitions on usb devices while
> using udev.
What is the problem this is trying to solve?
If t
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Michal Čihař" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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This
Hello Alejandro,
* Alejandro Bonilla Beeche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-03 13:11]:
> This should not be an email for this ML, but anyway, I think
> this version of gallery could be kind of broken as I have used
> the Sid one and works like a charm. This is a little box that I
> have with galle
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 12:20:07PM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote:
> You seem to be assuming that Debian should encourage people to contribute,
> whereas the NM process was deliberately set up to discourage applicants.
> You assume that applicants are scarce, but the assumption behind NM is that
> there
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:19:13AM -0500, Benjamin Mesing wrote:
> Also note that it
> was only one feature of packagesearch which broke (after all
> packagesearch does only recommend xterm and works without it). But my
> point was that such (unforseeable) things might break things in testing.
Sur
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 02:26:51PM +0100, Maximilian Attems wrote:
> the -rc kernels are build in experimental, staging area for unstable
> and without any potential d-i breakage.
Ah, nice, I did not notice it. Perhaps it should get some more publicity
to attract more testers :-)
Gabor
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Hi Daniel!
You wrote:
> Debian QA Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>libubit-dev
Maybe this package should just be removed? It doesn't have any reverse
dependencies afaics, and hasn't had a non-QA upload since feb 2004.
Greetings,
Bas.
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with a subjec
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 02:19:31PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> udev has broken my system -- completely (as in: can't boot and/or log in) --
> _seven_ distinct times since this summer. How on you can claim that ALSA is
> worse, is beyond me :-)
That's why I said udev breakage is rather an
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Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 11:39:55 +0100, Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> Please realize that there is a difference between people who want to
>> *contribute* above average and *people* below aver
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 11:39:55 +0100, Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> * Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-03 22:30:09]:
>> >> They are right: most probably they will find it easier to make
>> >> contributions to other projects.
>>
>> > we need to promote the easy entry poin
Daniel Schepler wrote:
> With the recent upload of xorg-x11 version 6.9.0 to unstable removing
> xlibs-dev, any package still having a Depends: xlibs-dev will become
> uninstallable very soon once xlibs-dev disappears from the distribution.
If you're following this, could you please check that
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Hi Andreas!
On 1/4/06, Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please realize that there is a difference between people who want
> to *contribute* above average and *people* below average.
While I agree that there are contributions that are eit
* Gabor Gombas wrote:
> Packaging at least -rc kernels for unstable might be a good idea for
> Debian too. That would provide more testing coverage for -rc releases,
> and this is what upstream needs the most.
We already had some -rc releases in experimental for 2.6.14 and
2.6.15.
Norbert
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T
On 03-Jan-06, 19:30 (CST), Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 08:58:49AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > Such behaviour is pretty much standard alternative handling: the default
> > install is the lowest priority, and the optional variants have higher
> > priorit
On 04-Jan-06, 05:08 (CST), paddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Time to add a policy-alternatives hook to update-alternatives ??
Huh? If the admin manually sets an alternative with with
update-alternatives, it won't be overridden by a package install. What
more does she need?
Steve
--
Steve Gre
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 01:51:17PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote:
>
> Packaging at least -rc kernels for unstable might be a good idea for
> Debian too. That would provide more testing coverage for -rc releases,
> and this is what upstream needs the most.
the -rc kernels are build in experimental, s
Le mercredi 04 janvier 2006 à 14:21 +0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> On Jan 04, "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > udev has broken my system -- completely (as in: can't boot and/or log in) --
> > _seven_ distinct times since this summer. How on you can claim that ALSA is
> > wo
On Jan 04, "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> udev has broken my system -- completely (as in: can't boot and/or log in) --
> _seven_ distinct times since this summer. How on you can claim that ALSA is
> worse, is beyond me :-)
This was not always caused by udev bugs.
And anyway, i
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 02:03:00PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote:
> The udev breakages were rather annoying but the situation is not as bad
> as it looks. ALSA for example is worse but it gets less "press coverage".
Are you serious?
udev has broken my system -- completely (as in: can't boot and/or lo
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 11:52:58AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Furthermore, udev doesn't bring new problems. You can't have a
> persistent naming scheme with a static /dev either, unless you are
> loading modules by hand. If you still want to load your modules by hand,
> udev won't prevent yo
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:43:55PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> I wonder how that's going to happen wrt udev and a couple of other
> things that, as of today, depend on a precise version of the kernel.
The udev breakages were rather annoying but the situation is not as bad
as it looks. ALSA for
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 12:23:31AM -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
wrote:
> Perhaps the idea of maintain a kernel with other distros is not bad,
> if Ubuntu shows up as a candidate, I would like to add Progeny, Linspire,
> Xandros, "DCC Alliance Fan Club" and also other Debian Deriv
With the recent upload of xorg-x11 version 6.9.0 to unstable removing
xlibs-dev, any package still having a Depends: xlibs-dev will become
uninstallable very soon once xlibs-dev disappears from the distribution.
Here's a list of the affected packages from main/i386 by maintainer; filing
of gra
Benjamin Mesing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I can't see any mention of xterm in packagesearch's changelog, nor any bugs
>> filed about the problem, either.
> Look at changelog.gz, probably I should have copied it to
> changelog.Debian.gz too. Bugs were not filed against this problem. And
> to be
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 12:20:07PM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote:
> Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> > we need to promote the easy entry points to contributing to debian
> > more prominently and should hide the "how to become a DD" in
> > comparison.
>
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > What on earth for?
>
> And
also sprach Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.01.04.0043 +0100]:
> Why don't we use RHEL's kernel, or collaborate with them to maintain a
> stable kernel tree, or something?
I doubt RH has the same concept of stability as we do, and I surely
don't want a plethora of potentially untested or bu
Kevin Mark wrote:
> you may notice that Debian has many programs to catalog thing. Some for
> cd/dvd's, some for books, etc. When you make an ITP you will need to
> make an argument as to why this packages should be added. Debian
> developers will want to know what differentiates your package fro
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 12:39:09PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Sven Luther
>
> | I believe it has also an influence on the place where the source package is
> | ohold (alioth svn repo over whatever strange stuff ubuntu uses), and they
> said
> | we should use their system.
>
> yeah, git,
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Hi,
I don't know where to send this else, so forgive me if this is the wrong
mailinglist.
See:
http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=pdns&ver=2.9.19-2&arch=hppa&stamp=1135294848&file=log&as=raw
[..]
Setting up tetex-base (3.0-11) ...
Removing unch
* Sven Luther
| I believe it has also an influence on the place where the source package is
| ohold (alioth svn repo over whatever strange stuff ubuntu uses), and they said
| we should use their system.
yeah, git, really strange stuff in the world of Linux kernel
development. Available from
rs
Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> we need to promote the easy entry points to contributing to debian
> more prominently and should hide the "how to become a DD" in
> comparison.
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> What on earth for?
Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> [...] people who want to help/contribute seem to be
> tu
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 03:15:01AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > I think the single-user system is the last one that alternatives handling
> > should optimize for, since the *one* person who's going to know to type
> > "nvi" instead of "vi", and the o
Le mercredi 04 janvier 2006 à 01:06 +, Stephen Gran a écrit :
> > Can you give us a way to change permissions of a device that can be
> > plugged or unplugged?
>
> Of course. With a static /dev/, the node is always there to be operated
> on whether or not there is hardware associated with the
* Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-03 22:30:09]:
> >> They are right: most probably they will find it easier to make
> >> contributions to other projects.
>
> > we need to promote the easy entry points to contributing to debian
> > more prominently and should hide the "how to become a
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 01:13:08AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:43:28PM -0500, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> >
> >
> > Why don't we use RHEL's kernel, or collaborate with them to maintain a
> > stable kernel tree, or something?
>
Hav
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Martin Meredith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name : qtodo
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Tobias [EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://qtodo.berlios.de/
* License : GPL
Description : Todo List Manager
QTodo is a todo-list manager. It is designed to be
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:58:09AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> well, the kernel is definitly about the same level as the toolchain and
> standard/base - changes can have very easily impact on the installer,
> and it is not an option to remove the package if it is broken.
Nope, still it is more i
Sorry for the long mail, but i believe there is something important all the
way done, so if you cannot be bothered to read it all; please go down to the
point marked *IMPORTANT*.
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:05:04PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> You have been harranguing the ftp team to approve new
* Steinar H. Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060103 23:37]:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:45:16PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> > 2.6.8 is not an optimal kernel, but largely due to timing (i.e. SATA just
> > starting to get implemented).
>
> The real question (IMHO) is probably whether it would be poss
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