An Idea/RFP: x group /

2000-09-05 Thread Andreas Rottmann
I just had an idea reading a thread in at.linux discussing about xhost: Wht about a package that contains the following commands (yet to be written): xuseradd # Add's the user to the x group xuserdel # Deletes the user from the x group The package would have an config file where it lists all

Re: Archive maintainers: Please relocate tpctl package

2000-09-05 Thread Thomas Hood
The tpctl packages still haven't been relocated. Is there some holdup? Thomas On Mon, 28 Aug, 2000 at 21:49:04 +0100, Adrian Bridgett wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 12:04:32 +1200 (+), Michael Beattie wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 04:21:21PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: > > > Hi. > > >

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously John Goerzen wrote: > Incidentally, I have debconfized the following: > > base-passwd I'm quite sure I told you I wouldn't merge that until after the potato release. I also notice you didn't file the patch as a wishlist bugreport which makes it a bit harder to find.. Wichert. --

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:26:57PM +0200, Karsten Tinnefeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > So we'd have GUI tools for: > > - /etc/network/interfaces > > > http://gaby.netpedia.net/pics/Screenshot_GUI_tools.jpeg > > Looks very nice, but at the moment there is just looks without any >

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:16:26PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > - package information queries (a la apt-cache)...maybe this should be > integrated with a GUI package manager frontend (is gnome-apt still alive?) I think it would also be interesting to integrate

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
Florian Hinzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried to fix an old problem with my Debian system (woody) > today, but failed. An old problem with a quite old answer: German-HOWTO You'll find this in doc-linux-text and doc-linux-html packages. Tscho Roland -- * [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Brian Mays
> On 04 Sep 2000, Brian Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not quite. The FHS briefly mentions *System V's* runlevel 2 and > > 3 (along with Berkley's multiuser state). It does not specify > > anything about runlevels for Linux or any other OS. Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied: > O

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-05 Thread Karsten Tinnefeld
> So we'd have GUI tools for: > - /etc/network/interfaces > http://gaby.netpedia.net/pics/Screenshot_GUI_tools.jpeg Looks very nice, but at the moment there is just looks without any intellicence. If having some gui it should transparently (display resulting configurations) provice choices lik

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:24:28PM +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: > GUI tools. [some will respond here with "we don't want those users" and I > won't agree. This flamewar already happened. GUI tools doesn't mean you > have to use them. blah blah blah.] > > Something else we'd need is an option in

Re: postgresql+apache+php4+pgsql.so+pg_exec()=apache segfaults

2000-09-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:04:10PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > as already i said, on woody everything runs well. i could not recompile > php4 debian sources on my potato since they look for apsx for creating > apache modules and, as far as i searched, i couldn't find it. The apxs program is

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:24:28PM +0200, Frederic Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: [anecdote snipped] > So I drew the conclusion that what Debian needs for those users is simple > GUI tools. [some will respond here with "we don't want those users" and I > won't agree. This flamewa

RE: ANNOUNCE: Project to weld a specially-built perl-5.6.0 to aol server

2000-09-05 Thread Brent Fulgham
> I have been working on a project to bring aolserver and perl > together for the past 2-3 weeks, and it has passed what I > consider to be all its proof-of-concept stages: with the > preliminary code I have written, an aolserver > which receives a request from a browser can respond by > runni

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread Karsten Tinnefeld
> I hope this isn't necessary. > (you can disable this in bash, but then some other stuff (legitimate control > chars) breaks, and since I only type umlauts on the command-line very > occasionally, it wasn't worth the effort to fix) right, sorry, there was some resource I forgot to mention. Th

Re: lintian complains about unknown control files

2000-09-05 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:28:42AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > I hope you mean you code would like like: > > if [ "$1" = "configure" ]; then > do_configure > fi > > the double '==' is a bash-ism not supported by POSIX shell. > at the moment i don't even check for $1, i completely ig

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:00:12PM +0200, Miros/law `Jubal' Baran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > 5.09.2000 pisze Florian Hinzmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > [symptomata snipped] > > Let me ask you one question: how did you set the `locale' variables > (LANG, LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and anot

ANNOUNCE: Project to weld a specially-built perl-5.6.0 to aolserver

2000-09-05 Thread Jim Lynch
Hi, (please NOTE crosspost. I presently think discussion should take place on -devel for awhile then move either to -perl or to a web-based list; I'm open to suggestions on this.) I have been working on a project to bring aolserver and perl together for the past 2-3 weeks, and it has passed what

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-05 Thread Frederic Peters
> I started coding proof of concepts thingies; they should be in my home > directory on master (~fpeters/, is this accessible from http ?) soon. Also available on http://va.debian.org/~fpeters/ [CMP] alternatives-0.1.tar.gz 05-Sep-2000 09:0296k [CMP] debnetconf-0.1.tar.gz 05-Sep-2000 09:

Re: ITP enhydra

2000-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:22:41PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:55:48PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > > If the package is in 'non-free', you don't even need the > > sources. IMHO (but IANAL), for a package to get in 'main', you HAVE > > TO be able to compile it

Re: ITP hodie

2000-09-05 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
5.09.2000 pisze Sean 'Shaleh' Perry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > possibly, but the author goes as far as to output time in roman numerals and > what not. I am not up on gettext, but I was under the impression you could > not > run code to get the output. Oh, package it. We have ddate for Discordians

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-05 Thread John Goerzen
By all means sign me up. Incidentally, I have debconfized the following: magicfilter postfix base-passwd libpaperg libpaper I did the first three about a month ago and sent the patches to the maintainers. None have yet integrated it. The last one I did just recently and sent in the patch, but

Re: ITP enhydra

2000-09-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
[CCed to: debian-java, where this thread originated the wnpp bug for Enhydra debian-devel, to get broader input on source packaging issues Please trim CC list as appropriate] On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:55:48PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > If the package is in 'non-

Re: ITP hodie

2000-09-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Sep-2000 Peter Makholm wrote: > "Christian T. Steigies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> What does it do? >> It has the same functionality as the date (1) program, only... It >> has it in grammatically correct latin. > > Couldn't this be done with gettext and the normal date coma

RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-05 Thread Frederic Peters
Hi, The holidays are now over and I spent them showing GNU/Linux systems to NT administrators. Some were as dumb as my old VT320 terminal but most were interested. I showed Debian but also other distributions (that I installed for the first time in most cases) and I have to say that Debian was not

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
5.09.2000 pisze Florian Hinzmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [symptomata snipped] Let me ask you one question: how did you set the `locale' variables (LANG, LC_MESSAGES, LC_CTYPE and another LC_* companions)? I can type umlauts without any problems, under console and X (having pl_PL locale set, which me

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Buddha Buck
At 07:40 PM 9/5/00 +0200, Bart Schuller wrote: What frustrates me is that there's software that's - useful - free - legal (at least for quite a few millions of people) but not officially available for Debian. I understand fully that using the name "non-US" for patent-encumbered software is wrong. H

Re: apt and multiple connections

2000-09-05 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Russell Coker wrote: > I would like to transfer several files at a time to enable usable throughput > through slow web caches. Is there any way this can be done? If not can this > feature be added? If I recall it isn't too hard, but it isn't there specificly to prevent yaho

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Bart Schuller
[this is debian-devel, where we don't Cc unless explicitly asked] On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:24:12PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > The policy says about non-US: > > 2.1.5. The non-us server > That's in the context of "how to categorize a package", not a list of Debian mach

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Adrian" == Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adrian> The non-US server is only for packages that include Adrian> cryptographic program code. Adrian> non-US has NOTHING to do with patents or other restrictions Adrian> on the use of the packages. You are even allowed to use these Ad

WTF does zsh 3.1.9 does in potato-proposed-updates ?

2000-09-05 Thread Philippe Troin
Why a new zsh was introduced in potato-proposed-updates ? It's not compatible with thw previous version... I thought potato-proposed-updates was just about severe bugfixes... Phil. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Brian Almeida
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:48:17PM +0200, Samuel Hocevar wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000, Brian Almeida wrote: > > Skipstone is a GTK+ webbrowser that uses mozilla's embed features. It is > > similar to galeon only it is pure GTK+, no GNOME. The author asked me to > > make packages of it, and I hav

Bug#70948: ITP: ifinnish-small, ifinnish-huge

2000-09-05 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist New versions of ispell-fi (binary packages wfinnish and ifinnish) have three sizes for the spelling dictionary: small, medium and large. Their differences are in the number of words and word forms recognized and in the disk space and memory requirements for ispell.

Re: ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
Brian Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mozilla was relicensed under the GPL... Not quite, as I understand it: Mozilla is *in process* of being relicensed under GPL. All contributors have to be contacted to verify agreement first. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Brian Almeida
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:42:56AM -0400, Peter Teichman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:03:07AM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > > Skipstone is a GTK+ webbrowser that uses mozilla's embed features. It is > > similar to galeon only it is pure GTK+, no GNOME. The author asked me to > > make packa

Re: ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Samuel Hocevar
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000, Brian Almeida wrote: > Skipstone is a GTK+ webbrowser that uses mozilla's embed features. It is > similar to galeon only it is pure GTK+, no GNOME. The author asked me to > make packages of it, and I have uploaded it into Debian. It is placed under > the GPL. See http://ww

Re: ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Peter Teichman
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:03:07AM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > Skipstone is a GTK+ webbrowser that uses mozilla's embed features. It is > similar to galeon only it is pure GTK+, no GNOME. The author asked me to > make packages of it, and I have uploaded it into Debian. It is placed under > the

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-05 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Then why do we have DSFG #8 `License Must Not Be Specific to Debian' > if there is no Debian? There *is* a Debian. But it's not a legal *person*, it's a *work*. It is possible to write up a license that says, for example, that copies of program X

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Bart Schuller wrote: > > The problem is not "patents", it's that this particular patent also > > applies in Germany, meaning we can't distribute from non-us either. > > Yes we can, but not to or from Germany. Non-US is in The Netherlands, > which doesn't have software patents

Re: build question

2000-09-05 Thread Arthur Korn
David Starner schrieb: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:29:02AM +0200, Tom Cato Amundsen wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:19:11PM +, michael d. ivey wrote: > > > my main server is potato. is it "bad" for me to be building packages > > > there if they are destined for woody? should i start b

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:10:49AM -0500, David Starner wrote: > The problem is not "patents", it's that this particular patent also > applies in Germany, meaning we can't distribute from non-us either. Yes we can, but not to or from Germany. Non-US is in The Netherlands, which doesn't have softw

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread Karsten Tinnefeld
> > When typing german umlauts my system behaves > > inconsistent: > > When typing in xterm|gnome-terminal windows they > > don't appear. Some chars do beep, but none of the > > umlauts appear. The following code in your .bashrc should cure this, see stty(1): if tty -s then stty pass8 fi Y

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 02:06:38PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 05, Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >If it was legal for lame to be distributed with debian, I can tell you now, > >it would be in the archive overnight. - But it isnt, so it wont. > We have pandora for that, a

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-05 Thread Raul Miller
> > There's no legal difference between "Debian" and "people who recieve > > it from us". [Legally, there's no such entity as "Debian".] > > > > Nor is there a difference from the viewpoint of our social contract. On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:35:49AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > Then why do we

ITP: SkipStone

2000-09-05 Thread Brian Almeida
Skipstone is a GTK+ webbrowser that uses mozilla's embed features. It is similar to galeon only it is pure GTK+, no GNOME. The author asked me to make packages of it, and I have uploaded it into Debian. It is placed under the GPL. See http://www.muhri.net/skipstone/ for more info. -- Brian M.

postgresql+apache+php4+pgsql.so+pg_exec()=apache segfaults

2000-09-05 Thread Domenico Andreoli
what to say more? i'm developing keysign.php, which is the php scrip that manages debian key signing coordination page (http://oink.cc.ntu.edu.tw/~cklin/signing/). keysign.php is pretty finished and functioning, at least on woody. but chuan-kay lin, the server administrator of oink.cc.ntu.edu.tw,

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Florian Hinzmann wrote: > When typing german umlauts my system behaves > inconsistent: > > In most X programs they appear fine (i.e. Netscape, several > mail clients, XEmacs, ..) > > When typing in xterm|gnome-terminal windows they > don't appear. Some chars do beep, but no

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-05 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Raul Miller wrote: > On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > That to me says Debian has permission to re-distribute our modified > > version, but that people who recieve it from us do not, unless they > > too ask permission ("We do expect and appreciate..."). Non-free

Re: alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-05 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On 05 Sep 2000, Andreas Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Today, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do most mail readers have the same command line interface? Perhaps, > > but I really doubt that news readers do. *scratches* Uhm, right, I haven't thought about that *damnit* It sou

Re: ITP or rather upload... KDE

2000-09-05 Thread Mircea Luca
Hi Will it be a kde2 for potato or only for woody? Ofcourse assuming that KDE2 will be out before woody.:-) -- The best way to escape from a problem is to solve it. Alan Saporta My waste of cyberspace= http://deepblue.dyndns.org :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread Florian Hinzmann
Hi! I tried to fix an old problem with my Debian system (woody) today, but failed. When typing german umlauts my system behaves inconsistent: In most X programs they appear fine (i.e. Netscape, several mail clients, XEmacs, ..) When typing in xterm|gnome-terminal windows they don't appear. So

Re: alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-05 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Today, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do most mail readers have the same command line interface? Perhaps, > but I really doubt that news readers do. Not even mail readers do, AFAIK. Console readers have the mail(1) interface to stick to, but if it comes to an x MUA... It would reall

ITP: gpppkill -- GTK ppp throughput graph and ppp kill utility

2000-09-05 Thread Timshel Knoll
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2000-09-06 Severity: wishlist gpppkill is a small GTK+ program which displays a graph of ppp link usage and also has options to kill pppd after a specified time of low link usage, or after a given amount of time. License is GPL. -- System Information Debian

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-05 Thread Peter Teichman
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:29:32AM +1100, Donovan Baarda wrote: > I believe the infamous "aalib" affair actualy came out of a wishlist > bugreport submitted to them by a user; the then frozen potato aalib was too > low a version to meet all the helix dependencies. This meant people like me > had to

QT-GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Just read on Linuxtoday.com that trolltech will license QT under the GPL. Guess the 'river was lowered' instead of 'raising the bridge' (old Jerry Lewis movie title) so KDE can now go in main for Woody, right? = Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linu

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 05, Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If it was legal for lame to be distributed with debian, I can tell you now, >it would be in the archive overnight. - But it isnt, so it wont. We have pandora for that, and I remember Wichert agreed to this use. What still needs to be done to

Re: alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:52:51PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Now there doesn't seem to be an alternative for the MUAs or the NUAs. > I'd really like to have that in there so that packages like pinfo or > muttzilla (just for an example) could work "out of the box" without > needing to twitch w

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:03:56AM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: > Saved to "branden.asc" and 'gpg -d branden.asc' results in > > gpg: CRC error; 72a653 - dc372a > gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been used > > > Well, I was able to "repair" and read it.

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-05 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Michael Beattie wrote: > It was meant as a joke... so go ahead :) That's why I did not really complain about it ;-) > Im not sure why he encrypted to you though. Yeah, I also thought that you should have received this ;-)) (because you asked for it, that is) Ulf

Going to vacation, make NMUs if needed

2000-09-05 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Hi all I am going to vacation for the next 3 weeks, so if there is anything wrong with one of my packages (pptpd, logcheck, mkinitrd-cd) then please feel free to do NMUs. best greets, Rene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PR

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > I just need to find out whether kdelibs reports to kdebase during compile > time whether it was built against ssl or not... With the current dpkg-shlibdeps it will since kdelibs will pull in the ssl libraries and ldd will report that. Provided that you link kon

alternatives for MUA and NUA?

2000-09-05 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi! Today I stumbled across my .muttrc and found that I've hardcoded the pager (w3m ;) and the editor (vim :) into it. On the other hand I find the alternatives-mechanismus really useful so I changed it to pager and editor which works really fine. Now there doesn't seem to be an alterna

galeon CVS debian packages ; building debs for M18?

2000-09-05 Thread Jared Johnson
I've started making debian packages of the latest galeon CVS trees available over at: http://silverchair.futureks.net/~solomon/galeon/ The 0.7.3 deb available there has been slightly enhanced as well, see the changelog.Debian. Potato users will probably want to read http://silverchair.futureks.n

Re: ITP: unixodbc

2000-09-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > Description: ODBC tools libraries > Binaries and libraries from the unixODBC package. > COMPONENTS: > . > 15. libodbcpgsql.so (driver for PostgreSQL) How does it correspond to the current ODBC driver of PostgreSQL? > 18. isql(cmd line too

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > and sent patches to XFree86 a long time ago, but the patch was > ignored, and Dirk Hohndel basically told me I was an idiot for > doing so, because it might unexpectedly terminate the server in the > quite common case of four X session logins i

ITP or rather upload... KDE

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Ok...I leave for an extended weekend and Troll get's freaky on me! :) Since I've been basically doing this unofficially for almost 2 years now working with Stephan Kulow who was the maintainer/developer and who has since passed it on to me due to time and the fact he's not running woody and all...

ITP: unixodbc

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Description: ODBC tools libraries Binaries and libraries from the unixODBC package. COMPONENTS: . 1. libodbc.so (ODBC Driver Manager) 2. ODBCConfig (GUI Setup using libodbcinst.so) 3. libodbcinst.so (ODBC Installer/Setup) 4. odbcinst(cmd line UI for libodbcinst.so) 5.

ITP kdoc - C++ and IDL Source Documentation System

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Description: C++ and IDL Source Documentation System KDOC creates cross-referenced documentation for C++ and CORBA IDL libraries directly from the source. Documentation can be embedded in special doccomments in the source. -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcras

db.debian.org (was: libgd1 vs. libgd1g)

2000-09-05 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 04 Sep 2000, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > Nondevelopers do not have access to the away information in db.d.o. Ugh. They _are_ presented with a form where the "on vacation" box can be checked, and the subsequent search simply returns "0", no errors explaining that this info can't be retr

OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-05 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:19:08AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:54:25AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > > Um, why send such a message to a widely-read mailing-list? > > > > As a joke... > > Im damned curious..

Re: build question

2000-09-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:29:02AM +0200, Tom Cato Amundsen wrote: > If possible, your package should depend on packages in potato only. > Then users won't be forced to install other unstable packages, > just to try out your package. What if your package won't compile against the libraries in wood

Re: Free Pine?

2000-09-05 Thread Richard Stallman
> I don't either--but that is not the point. The point is that the U of > W has actually threatened to sue the FSF for distributing a modified > version of a program that was released under the same words. Personally, I'm still in the process of confirming this. I hope that the U

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:53:12AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > > > in the meantime I'll work on splitting off 2 seperate packages..1 with > > ssl and 1 without. > > > > It may be easier just to build it twice, once with SSL and once > with

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:54:05PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > Software has bugs, it's a fact of life. New software is more likely to > > have unknown bugs that affect more people. What makes the Helix packages > > so nice is the turnaround time for fixes. I don't know how they do it, > > but th

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-05 Thread Joey Hess
Joseph Carter wrote: > Software has bugs, it's a fact of life. New software is more likely to > have unknown bugs that affect more people. What makes the Helix packages > so nice is the turnaround time for fixes. I don't know how they do it, > but they do. Maybe they have a dinstall delay of le

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > in the meantime I'll work on splitting off 2 seperate packages..1 with > ssl and 1 without. > It may be easier just to build it twice, once with SSL and once without. That's what I'm going to do. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- T

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:44:06AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > KDE2 is doing alot with ssl stuff...konqueror, kmail, etc...kdelibs builds > > against libssl so it's in non-US. > > > > Can you do a non-ssl version too for main? Otherwise Amer

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > KDE2 is doing alot with ssl stuff...konqueror, kmail, etc...kdelibs builds > against libssl so it's in non-US. > Can you do a non-ssl version too for main? Otherwise American CD manufacturers aren't going to be able to include it and therefore the r

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-09-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:06:49PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > packages into unstable. Helix is too stable for unstable, and too unstable > > for stable. > > Not exactly true, as Helix Gnome is usually more cutting-edge than > unstable Gnome. In my experience, it's had a bug report to fix tur

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> > > > Still in incoming... dont look at me :) > > I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. > The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages > himself (to upload versions that don't worry about the QPL-GPL > problems), or some terribly freaky

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 09:20:05PM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote: > Hugues Marilleau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Who is going to ITP kde ? > > > > I'm dreaming about an "apt-get install kde" ... > > > Rather task-kde ;-) (SCNR) > already have one. :) -- Ivan E. Moore II

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On 04 Sep 2000, Brian Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not quite. The FHS briefly mentions *System V's* runlevel 2 and 3 > (along with Berkley's multiuser state). It does not specify anything > about runlevels for Linux or any other OS. O.k., you're right - it was on linuxbase.org. Which we su

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:53:30PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:29:44PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > > > I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. > > The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages > > himself (to

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-05 Thread Brian May
> ""Jürgen" == "Jürgen A Erhard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "Jürgen> *If* there's some *valid* reason not to store something "Jürgen> in a *root-readable* DB, make it put it somewhere else. "Jürgen> In the end, it *gets stored anyway. Not always the case. eg consider a package f

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-05 Thread Brian May
> "Arthur" == Arthur Korn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Arthur> apt-move uses rsync to update it's Packages, and it's a Arthur> real improvement over the sledgehammer method. Correction: "apt-move [potato version] uses rsync to update it's Packages [...]". As of woody, this is no longe

Abuse is still being worked on

2000-09-05 Thread Edward Betts
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you a new debian developer, looking for some packages to maintain? > If so, this list is for you. I need to drop some of my simpler packages > to make way for other work. All of the below are up for adoption -- just > mail me. Otherwise, I will continue to

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:08:33PM +0200, happ wrote: > enough said > > http://www.trolltech.com > > now we can move the ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato kde2 contrib > back home > > WE WON ! No, we didn't win. Neither did KDE. Troll Tech won this license war. It looks like the rest of us w

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Branden Robinson
[you don't have to CC me on messages to debian-devel] On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:49:26PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:36:00PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > lab == lots of people == lots of NCD xterms == lots of quick logins to the > > > DEC Unix server at the b

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:29:44PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. > The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages > himself (to upload versions that don't worry about the QPL-GPL > problems), or some ter

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:48:36PM -0300, Rogerio Brito wrote: > But I'd really love to see an MP3 encoder in Debian. On the > other hand, we now have Vorbis (players, plugins for XMMS and > encoders) on woody, so the situation is alleviated. If it was legal for lame to be distri

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:36:00PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > lab == lots of people == lots of NCD xterms == lots of quick logins to the > > DEC Unix server at the beginning of a lab... sheesh > > Quick logins don't trigger the termination of the server. > > It's a login, followed by an i

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:32:10PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > No, it was just an observation of a coincidence that my twisted mind > found amusing. :) Yes, I suppose it was amusing :) > Away put your flamethrowers! I mean you no harm! I didnt have it out :) -- M

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Herbert Xu
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a) You just made some changes in X that caused it to lock up the display. >Magic sysreq got you out alive, but now you would like to boot to a >console to fix it. > b) Your monitor blew up. You've got a replacement on hand, but it won't >work

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:53:32PM -0300, Rogerio Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > Of course the other problem is the code not yet being optimised (and > > I'm not complaining but..) and bogging down my poor P133. > > Unfortunately, I have no experience here with older proces

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:48:36PM -0300, Rogerio Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > But I'd really love to see an MP3 encoder in Debian. On the > other hand, we now have Vorbis (players, plugins for XMMS and > encoders) on woody, so the situation is alleviated. I t

Re: X and runlevels

2000-09-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:25:23AM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:05:09PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > > No, I can understand that. - that exact circumstance would occur in our > > > University computer science lab. Regularly too, I might add. > > > > I take it this

Re: Qt going GPL ...

2000-09-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:05:27PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. > > I was wondering what happened to it? It didn't appear in the > archives, it wasn't moved to REJECT or DONE, it just disappeared. > I was wondering if there was some

Re: build question

2000-09-05 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:29:02AM +0200, Tom Cato Amundsen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:19:11PM +, michael d. ivey wrote: > > i'm a new maintainer, and maybe this is better directed at -mentors, > > or maybe it's in the docs somewhere...if so, just point me that way, > > please. > > >

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Sep 04 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > lame/vorbis works alright. The problem I'm facing is lack of a good CLI > ogg player. See the ogg123 package in woody. It works perfectly well with my potato. > Of course the other problem is the code not yet being optimised (and > I'm no

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Sep 04 2000, John O Sullivan wrote: > I'm surprised that lame hasn't been packaged already. Was it > discussed and rejected previously? Well, there aren't official packages AFAIK, but, for instance, I have a reasonably well-made package of lame 3.86beta and I intend to s

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Sep 04 2000, Peter Allen wrote: > All vorbis tools are very young, and as most work goes into > libvorbis the encoder is missing some features and has a few > unwanted features Lame is mature, and although I haven't > checked out the ogg encoding bit of lame I guess it has more > supported

Re: build question

2000-09-05 Thread Tom Cato Amundsen
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 07:19:11PM +, michael d. ivey wrote: > i'm a new maintainer, and maybe this is better directed at -mentors, > or maybe it's in the docs somewhere...if so, just point me that way, > please. > > my main server is potato. is it "bad" for me to be building packages > there

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