On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 08:21:33PM +0200, Michael Dietrich wrote:
> hi all,
>
> i made my deb-package yesterday for i386 & alpha but now: what have i
> to do to release it?
You should apply as new maintainer. Here is the way-to-do:
1.2 Registering as a Debian developer
The mail sent to [EM
> I can send you all e-mail messages I have sent and received about this
> bug, if you wish. Right now I don't have much time to re-investigate the
> bug.
Sure, that would be usefull, thanks.
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On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 01:22:26PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> We should abandon attempts at `social engineering' through release
> management. So, `we must do X before we release' or `you must fix bug
> Y or we should remove the package' (for non-critical Y), have to stop.
Although I see proble
As bad form as it may be to follow up to my own post...
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 05:22:46AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> I wonder if we'd like to make a press release about this?
I spoke to David privately a little, and he's inclined more toward a
simple release, whereas, as usual, I'm inclined
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 06:55:20AM -0600, Jim wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > We must decouple our development tracks much more. I propose that we
> > resolve never again to plan a release with is not fully backward
> > compatible with the current stable version.
>
> I like this idea mos
given that one day we will be able to release debian 2.0 :
we will have official cdrom images on some ftp servers.
a) who could burn these iamges and test them ? many cd distributors don't have
alpha and m68k machines, and i don't even trust them to test i386 machines.
b) who could burn these ima
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 04:52:28PM -0300, Lalo Martins wrote:
>
> RedHat for one doesn't care for this, so I think it's one of the
> examples of what Debian is doing for Free Software with its
> clear and visible ideological organization.
Well, except for the fact that they are pumping 1000's of
On Jun 09, Anthony Towns decided to present us with:
>
> I wonder if we'd like to make a press release about this? Initial
> sentiment on the IRC channel is quite positive, but I thought I'd
> ask here as well.
Yes I think so. Not the first case of almost-free software being
made free:
1: Enligh
The uudeview tar.gz from upstream has a few bins, a tk script, and a lib
w/ headers. All I can see packaged is the binaries and the tk script.
Where did the lib go, or why was it not packaged.
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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Norbert Veber wrote:
> The bug report pretty much says:
> xinetd: samba 1.9.18p3-1 don't work from xinetd (from inetd is ok)
>
> What I need is to know if this is a real bug or just a user configuration
> problem. I personally do not have/use samba, but I know of at least 2 p
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 11:39:38AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
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> > On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:42:14PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> > > On Jun 06, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > >
> > > Documentation may be included in main so long as there are no restrictions
> > >
John Goerzen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just uploaded kpilot to Incoming on master. This is a fairly
> small program but required a LOT of hacks to Makefiles to get it to
> Debianize. I would be greatly appreciative if someone familiar with
> KDE would be able to review the diffs and see if I made
On Tue, Jun 09, 1998 at 05:22:46AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 10:50:56AM -0700, David Welton wrote:
> > Ok, after a lot of emailing, ircII-current has the following license:
> > (from ircii.warped.com/pub/ircII/ircii-current/ircii/doc)
> >
> > [...license deleted...]
>
Hi,
I've just uploaded kpilot to Incoming on master. This is a fairly
small program but required a LOT of hacks to Makefiles to get it to
Debianize. I would be greatly appreciative if someone familiar with
KDE would be able to review the diffs and see if I made any mistakes.
Or, better yet, if t
[not Cc'ed to the bug tracking system for what I hope are obvious
reasons :)]
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 10:50:56AM -0700, David Welton wrote:
> Ok, after a lot of emailing, ircII-current has the following license:
> (from ircii.warped.com/pub/ircII/ircii-current/ircii/doc)
>
> [...license deleted.
I recently uploaded linbot to master.debian.org which then was
installed on non-us.debian.org under
/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-all. However, there is no
Packages file under this directory and the Packages file for
/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386 doesn't include linbot.
Is there
The bug report pretty much says:
xinetd: samba 1.9.18p3-1 don't work from xinetd (from inetd is ok)
What I need is to know if this is a real bug or just a user configuration
problem. I personally do not have/use samba, but I know of at least 2 people
that use it successfully with xinetd. If some
Enlightened Sound Daemon (EsounD version 0.2)
This provides sound tools that are used by the new Enlightenment, as well
as possibly the new Gnome.
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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Richard Braakman wrote:
> > Every three months (fixed date) we copy the current `unstable' into
> > `frozen'. At this point `stable', `frozen' and `unstable' should all
> > stay interoperable both in source and binary form.
>
> This is still a major operation at every freeze
hi all,
i made my deb-package yesterday for i386 & alpha but now: what have i
to do to release it?
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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Ian Jackson wrote:
> So, in detail:
>
> Every three months (fixed date) we copy the current `unstable' into
> `frozen'. At this point `stable', `frozen' and `unstable' should all
> stay interoperable both in source and binary form.
I fully agree on the idea, but IMHO 3 mont
Ok, after a lot of emailing, ircII-current has the following license:
(from ircii.warped.com/pub/ircII/ircii-current/ircii/doc)
/*
* Copyright (c) 1990 Michael Sandrof.
* Copyright (c) 1991, 1992 Troy Rollo.
* Copyright (c) 1992-1998 Matthew R. Green.
* All rights reserved.
*
* Redistributi
Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> (including the Linux/m68k FAQ, which isn't in Debian because it's
> not DFSG-free and I have no intention of making it DFSG-free),
Great Chris, but what happens if, God forbid, you (and Jörg) were to
be run over by a bus tomorrow? Your FAQ becomes wor
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > We could then get rid of both `elvis-tiny' and `ae', and be
> > > left with a powerful tool that is easy for beginners and
> > > experienced folks alike.
> >
> > And we would be left without an editor which works when in single
> > user mode. Wha
On Sun, Jun 07, 1998 at 05:07:23PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Stephen Carpenter wrote:
> > I would supose that it is not very common to run both xfs and xfstt on the
> > same machine (esp since xfstt currently only accepts 1 simultaneous
> > connection --something I hope to change) but still...it c
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: ... lintian flags the 'mx' and 'ns' commands as possible namespace pollution.
Ok, I'm convinced. The 8.1.2-2 package still includes these commands, and I
will leave them in indefinitely.
Bdale
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"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Santiago> Is there a way to do a "non-maintainer release" of
Santiago> ftp.debian.org when Guy is busy?
This may be one of our biggest problems -- that such a time-critical
and important "package" is maintained by only a single volunteer.
T
> > Can anyone think of an automated way to weed out bug reports on versions
> > which haven't been released into hamm from the release-critical list? A
> > quick fix would be to modify the priority of the bug report, but that
> > would be The Wrong Thing.
>
> Automating this would be wrong, I thi
Dennis L. Clark wrote:
> Can anyone think of an automated way to weed out bug reports on versions
> which haven't been released into hamm from the release-critical list? A
> quick fix would be to modify the priority of the bug report, but that
> would be The Wrong Thing.
Automating this would be w
"Bdale" == Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bdale> I'm inclined to agree with lintian that these are pretty
Bdale> worthless. However, since this is obviously not a
Bdale> release-critical issue, I thought I'd ask for opinions before I
Bdale> just do it...
I'm inclined to disagree -- as
On Sun, Jun 07 1998, Richard Braakman wrote:
| Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:52:58 GMT: 111 release-critical bugs in hamm.
| Package: fetchmail
| Maintainer: Paul Haggart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| 23092 Security: fetchmail sends packets off site without explicit
I use
I don't usually write to the list to say "me too", but I think that
is a pretty foundamental step to be taken. I completely agree with
Ian but "me too" I think the stable pool is a better approach
(even if it requires more resources to be set up).
Ciao,
> Maintainers have the final word only if th
G John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My last message couldn't have been more wrong ! Maybe there is a
> difference between the perl interface to gdbm and some core perl function
> that relies on it ?
I guess I'm forced to agree:
# cd /usr/lib
# ls *gdbm*
libgdbm.a libgdbm.so.1
On Thu, Jun 04, 1998 at 11:26:38AM +0200, Nils Rennebarth wrote:
> Btw: Am I right that C++ programs need to be compiled with egcs for debian
> now?
They do not necessarily need to be recompiled with g++ (which is egcs's);
libg++272 still runs and development of binaries with it is still possible.
Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you unhappy with the result (hamm)? I'm not...
I'm not unhappy with hamm, but I am unhappy that we didn't have any
releases between bo and hamm.
Mind you, I've come up with workarounds, but I also had some service
outages that could have been avoided if I cou
Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't see any way we could have preserved compatibility more than
> we did, with the hamm release. The entire altdev scheme was devised
> for it. What more could have been done?
That was solved a long time ago, and isn't the reason hamm was
delayed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> We must decouple our development tracks much more. I propose that we
> resolve never again to plan a release with is not fully backward
> compatible with the current stable version.
I like this idea most of the time... but there are times when you just have to
make a
Luis Francisco Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Precisely, in bo the boot-floppies had to disable pcmcia because it was
> broken. I guess you never had to install using a pcmcia network card.
> If we make changes to the kernels, let's make sure there is no broken
> dependent package.
I don't
Gregory S. Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would this be the default TERM value for xterm? I assume you realize
> that this means any user telnetting from a debian machine to any other
> distribution or OS will not get a useful terminal.
If you read the howto, you'd see that there was a handlin
Hi. I apologize in advance for the somewhat negative tone of my reply.
I think that Ian's proposal is unrealistic, and does not address our
current problems at all.
Ian Jackson wrote:
> We must decouple our development tracks much more. I propose that we
> resolve never again to plan a release w
Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dunno. But a lot of people have a copyright restriction in the document to
> make sure that the actual integrity of the standard remains intact (see, for
> example, the W3C's standards for HTTP and HTML).
This need is met by a "label is sacred" sort of
Stephen Carpenter wrote:
> I would supose that it is not very common to run both xfs and xfstt on the
> same machine (esp since xfstt currently only accepts 1 simultaneous
> connection --something I hope to change) but still...it could happen.
I expect to continue using xfs if I ever get around t
On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> Am working on the release-critical bugs in bind. It appears that
> lintian flags the 'mx' and 'ns' commands as possible namespace
> pollution. These, along with '', 'soa', and 'zone' are symlinks to
> 'host' that do quickie lookups for those types of
Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am working on the release-critical bugs in bind. It appears that
> lintian flags the 'mx' and 'ns' commands as possible namespace
> pollution. These, along with '', 'soa', and 'zone' are symlinks
> to 'host' that do quickie lookups for those types of re
On Sun, Jun 07, 1998 at 11:40:30PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
> Package: bootdisk (pseudo)
> Maintainer: Maintainer Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 20779 Debian 2.0 won't boot of a hard disk after install
> [STRATEGY] Enrique: "This is a hardware-specific bug too. I hav
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 02:26:09PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
> Martin Schulze wrote:
> > The problem is that the _preinst_ might use the programs useradd and
> > groupadd.
>
> Why not do it in the postinst, at configure time? Then a normal
> dependency is enough.
Because the uid should be p
Raul Miller wrote:
> Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Speaking as a debian advocate, it would be highly embarrassing to try
> > to explain something like "Oh yeah, the new kernel is there, but you
> > can't use it yet since ..." where ... stems from the person's need for
> > some dependant packag
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 01:22:26PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> We must decouple our development tracks much more. I propose that we
> resolve never again to plan a release with is not fully backward
> compatible with the current stable version.
Agreed! Those of us who have been talking about pos
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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Ian Jackson wrote:
> We should abandon the idea of `release goals'. Instead, if someone
> thinks a thing definitely needs doing by the time of a release, they
> do it. If it doesn't get done then we release anyway.
Interesting, but how doe
Martin Schulze wrote:
> The problem is that the _preinst_ might use the programs useradd and
> groupadd.
Why not do it in the postinst, at configure time? Then a normal
dependency is enough.
If the user or group does not exist on the system, dpkg will use the
numeric IDs instead.
Richard Braakm
(I'm going to repeat here some things I said in Cologne ...)
I agree that we have a serious problem. My proposed solution is as
follows:
We should abandon attempts at `social engineering' through release
management. So, `we must do X before we release' or `you must fix bug
Y or we should remove
Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Richard Braakman wrote:
>
> > Package: gcc
> > Maintainer: Galen Hazelwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 23123 gcc creates lots of empty files in /tmp
> > [FIX] Install gcc 2.7.2.3-4.5, currently in Incoming.
>
> No, the one that creates lots of empty files
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 12:17:52PM +0100, James Troup wrote:
> Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > >* Added pre-dependency for passwd to msqld as its tools are used
> > > in the preinst.
> >
> > Does anybody object?
>
> My original objection was going to be base around the f
Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Placing a wait someone else may cause your program to hang until a child
> dies. But note that if you have a select or some other kernel call, you
> will exit from that call with some kind of error code (it took me a while
> to realize this, never st
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >* Added pre-dependency for passwd to msqld as its tools are used
> > in the preinst.
>
> Does anybody object?
My original objection was going to be base around the fact that passwd
is Essential, but it turns out it isn't, my bad. I'd hate to
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> [...]
> Does anybody object?
>
> The problem is that the _preinst_ might use the programs useradd and
> groupadd. These are not in the base system nor essential. They're
> included in the passwd package. They might
I have moved msql 2.0.3-4 into Incoming/REJECT
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>* Added pre-dependency for passwd to msqld as its tools are used
> in the preinst.
You're meant to obtain a consensus on debian-
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 11:49:42AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
> 2) qftp needs libstd 2.7.2.* but the libstdc is 2.8.*
A NMU of me sits in incoming on master.
Nils
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I tried to install debian on my laptop over the weekend and ran into several
problems, some of which I haven't seen mentioned here before:
1) PCMCIA support is broke. No, I do not mean the incorrect kernel symbols,
but the 3.0.3-1 pcmcia packages in slink that I used as a next step. They
don't eve
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On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Richard Braakman wrote:
> Package: gcc
> Maintainer: Galen Hazelwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 23123 gcc creates lots of empty files in /tmp
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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 06, 1998 at 08:42:14PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> > On Jun 06, Santiago Vila wrote:
> >
> > Documentation may be included in main so long as there are no restrictions
> > on the unmodified use of the
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 11:02:57AM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> Since a few days, I'm unable to connect to ftp1.us.debian.org.
> I always get an error "530 Unable to chdir.". Could somebody look
> into this ?
Netgod "stole" its disk in order to produce some Debian CD-ROMs.
The system should com
Since a few days, I'm unable to connect to ftp1.us.debian.org.
I always get an error "530 Unable to chdir.". Could somebody look
into this ?
Gregor
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According to Michael Meskes:
> Miquel van Smoorenburg writes:
> > Another one is using a '-' as seperator. a '-' sorts lower then a '.',
> > so you can have
> >
> > mpsql_2.0-b1
> >
> > And then release
> >
> > mpsql_2.0.0
> >
> > The only problem is that "mpsql_2.0" does sort lower so it depen
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes:
> >Hm, assuming the "b1" means it's beta stuff, I think it would be
> >better to keep it in the Debian version. Changing the version number
> >is confusing. Yes, I now it's a pain when it gets out of beta. I
> >know of 4 solutions:
>
> Another one is using a '-' a
Yann Dirson writes:
> Hm, assuming the "b1" means it's beta stuff, I think it would be
> better to keep it in the Debian version. Changing the version number
Yes, but then slink is also beta.
> * heavily using epochs
I HATE epochs!
> * add a string like "final" to the version when out of beta
On Wed, 3 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Awhile ago I read here of a package someone made called (I think) xteddy,
> which was replacement login screen for X. I have just wadded through
> ftp.debian and could not find it. As I just got the courage to enable xpm
> on my system (WOW what a p
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 2) There needs to be a new terminal type, xterm-debian, which tracks the
> latest XFree86 xterm entry but incorporates our keyboard policy (and
> anything else we want to customize). I need to coordinate with the
> ncurses-base maintainer and some o
On Sun, Jun 07, 1998 at 10:01:47PM -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote:
: Am working on the release-critical bugs in bind. It appears that lintian
flags
: the 'mx' and 'ns' commands as possible namespace pollution. These, along with
: '', 'soa', and 'zone' are symlinks to 'host' that do quickie lookup
On Jun 08, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> I can't imagine why people are afraid that other people will change the
> standards. Why should anybody try to apply essential changes to, for
> example, the FSSTND?
Dunno. But a lot of people have a copyright restriction in the document to
make sure that the
On Sun, Jun 07, 1998 at 11:07:47AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> > "Stephen" == Stephen Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Stephen> I was hacking around on xfstt earlier today.
>
> Neat. I packed up the ttf files from the Windows[1] that came with
> my Laptop, and am going to
> What about the idea of running the x server directly from init,
> and using xdmcp? Is that bogus?
In fact, someone sent in reasonable-looking patches that do just that,
not long before I stopped working on X; they should be in one of the X
bug reports on the subject. I'd have to dig to find t
On Sun, Jun 07, 1998 at 11:03:35PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
> >
> > > More incentive to do it in a signal handler, tested code:
> > > void sig_handler (int i) {
> > > if (i == SIGCHLD) { /*
Am working on the release-critical bugs in bind. It appears that lintian flags
the 'mx' and 'ns' commands as possible namespace pollution. These, along with
'', 'soa', and 'zone' are symlinks to 'host' that do quickie lookups for
those types of records, without having to specify an option lik
My last message couldn't have been more wrong ! Maybe there is a
difference between the perl interface to gdbm and some core perl function
that relies on it ?
On 7 Jun 1998, James Troup wrote:
> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> How is this different from bo, where we also had three kernel versions
> available and only had pcmcia modules for the first two?
No difference. And no improvement. :)
-Jim
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Yes this is clearly a dynamically loaded module. There is no
question that the perl binary will run if /usr/lib/libgdbm.so or whatever
is absent.
homey 41 > locate GDBM
/usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.004/auto/GDBM_File
/usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.004/auto/GDBM_File/autosplit.ix
/usr/lib/pe
On Sun, Jun 07, 1998 at 03:43:13PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> I'd like to see a Zip disk install set. What should go on it?
[..]
> pine
This can't be on the base disk because it's non-free. If you want, you can
make a zip disk with anything you want on it, make it bootable even... Or,
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: Personally, I have stopped using all the dselect methods in
: favour of the apt method for dselect.
Absolutely!
We've put apt on every machine in sight, and it's amazing how much different
dselect seems with apt-get layered between it and dpkg.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: I'd like to see a Zip disk install set. What should go on it?
Heck, I have test systems with what I think are very functional installs that
run on 85 and 100meg disks... should be able to do a rousingly useful
standalone/install image on 100meg...
I'
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