On Mon, 8 Jun 1998, Richard Braakman wrote: > > Every three months (fixed date) we copy the current `unstable' into > > `frozen'. At this point `stable', `frozen' and `unstable' should all > > stay interoperable both in source and binary form. > > This is still a major operation at every freeze time. I like the > "stable pool" approach much better. That way we are ready to release > *at any time*, modulo newly discovered bugs in the stable packages > that have to be fixed.
I also love the idea of having a pool of packages, but it seems like it would need a major (and long) re-engineering of dinstall of master. > > Bugfixes must be applied to frozen, and important ones to stable too. > > After one or two months of beta frozen should be stable enough to > > release. > > What happens if the bugs don't get fixed? Release buggy packages? > Deciding not to release a package that has grave bugs is entirely > different from threatening to burn the house down. The current behaviour is that we are waiting for critical bugs to be fixed for 4 or 5 months, then the packages are dropped at release time if the bugs still aren't fixed. IanJ is suggesting to shorten this delay to 1 month. (Buggy packages should _not_ delay the release, but I still think that packages which are too buggy and not essential should not be shipped anyway) > > If it's not fine with you then let's not hold up the releases - > > instead, go and fix those packages. > > It's not fine with me if hamm is released with "crafty" in main, > because crafty is not DFSG-free. How do I fix that? crafty would be removed from frozen at release time. > It's also not fine with me if hamm is released with a non-working p2c. > (The package is currently orphaned). That doesn't mean I want to fix > it, since I have no interest in p2c. Unless someone cares enough to > maintain it, it should be dropped from the distribution. How do I > "fix" that? Same as above. The release manager should remove it just before to make the release. > > We also need to make automatic building a real possibility. > > Now this I agree with. It is already happening. Witness netgod's > recent efforts at getting the sparc tree up to date, he uploaded > some 300 packages in one day. The only thing needed to fully automate recompilation is source dependencies, but quinn-diff+netgod's tool already automate this process pretty well for most packages. -- - Vincent RENARDIAS [EMAIL PROTECTED],pipo.com,debian.org} - - Debian/GNU Linux: Pipo: WAW: - - http://www.fr.debian.org http://www.pipo.com http://www.waw.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - "La fonctionnalite Son Visuel vous delivre des avertissements visuels." - - [Message durant l'installation de Windows95]:wq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]