On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 05:28:45PM -0500, Douglas Bates wrote:
> Fabien Ninoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Sorry but from upgrading to xemacs20 make AUC-TeX not seems to work well
> > in xemacs, especially the key bindings and no menu.=20
> >
> > Here's an extract from my .emacs file, I on
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We have a ton of older PS/2 MCA machines around here, many with ESDI
> disks, others with the IBM SCSI HBA. Neither ESDI nor the IBM HBA are
> supported by the current rescue disks.
>
> So, in a not quite right state of mind, I decided I w
Shaleh wrote:
> The newest rvplayer in hamm will not install because it provides
> 'netscape' and some other package does too. What is happening here? I
> did not install the netscape deb package.
Please sned me the exact error message you are getting. rvplayer does not
Provides: netscape.
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On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> We have a ton of older PS/2 MCA machines around here, many with ESDI
> disks, others with the IBM SCSI HBA. Neither ESDI nor the IBM HBA are
> supported by the current rescue disks.
The lastest boot disks from Debian 1.3 work just fine; I've used the
Hi All,
I question the purpose of leaving broken symbolic links when
upgrading the libraries. For instance libreadline2 leaves
the following broken links reported by ldconfig:
Setting up libreadline2 (2.1-8) ...
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libpthread.so (No such file or
directory), s
Sorry but from upgrading to xemacs20 make AUC-TeX not seems to work well
in xemacs, especially the key bindings and no menu.
Here's an extract from my .emacs file, I only put the relevant part.
;;
;; AUC-TeX settings ;;
;;
(setq TeX-auto-save t)
(setq TeX-
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 03:56:08PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> I think the right thing to do is to leave the default prompts
> alone, and teach people how to set up prompts. There is no way you
> can cater to all tastes and all shells, people invariably change
> them, and anyway, w
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 05:27:14PM -0400, Brian White wrote:
> > Brian, here in Germany, every Megabyte you have to download is costing real
> > money. A lot of money. Please put as much on the CD as possible. Declare it
> > extra, put it in an unstable dir, put warnings all over the place, but
> >
Hello,
We have a ton of older PS/2 MCA machines around here, many with ESDI
disks, others with the IBM SCSI HBA. Neither ESDI nor the IBM HBA are
supported by the current rescue disks.
So, in a not quite right state of mind, I decided I would make some boot
floppies so that my coworkers, and any
On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 07:45:12PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hello i was wondering if anyone knew how to cross compile from
> linux for dos/win95. i wrote a lot of c code using the curses.h
> library and it does not port to borland or turbo c. is there
> some way i can tell gcc to compi
> Brian, here in Germany, every Megabyte you have to download is costing real
> money. A lot of money. Please put as much on the CD as possible. Declare it
> extra, put it in an unstable dir, put warnings all over the place, but
> please include it.
>
> We already exclude non-free comlpetely for g
Hi,
>>"Riku" == Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Riku> Ofcourse the right thing to do is a /etc/profile.d
Riku> directory.
I think the right thing to do is to leave the default prompts
alone, and teach people how to set up prompts. There is no way you
can cater to all tastes and
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 01:22:55PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> There's some Emacs Lisp that I neglected to package with `scsh'. I
> would like to know how to go about having dpkg install it. What is
> the procedure? Where do I stow it, and how do I register it with
> both emacsen?
I th
There's some Emacs Lisp that I neglected to package with `scsh'. I
would like to know how to go about having dpkg install it. What is
the procedure? Where do I stow it, and how do I register it with
both emacsen?
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On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 01:09:39PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The subject in question is whether to include these packages in "stable".
> > "unstable" will include them for sure.
>
> I think they are appropriate for "stable" provided they are classifed
>
Will Debian 2.0 (and on) retain the ability to install from a small
core system off of floppies? I sincerely hope so. Believe it or not,
there are a lot of computers out there where floppies are still the
easiest way to install things. Old laptops, for example. Debian 1.3's
install m
Will Debian 2.0 (and on) retain the ability to install from a small
core system off of floppies? I sincerely hope so. Believe it or not,
there are a lot of computers out there where floppies are still the
easiest way to install things. Old laptops, for example. Debian 1.3's
install method is really
Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Yes, but remeber that changes in /etc/skel affect only users that
> > > are added in the system _after_ the change. Exeisting users will
> > > still have old files. I still wonder, what it helps to put global
> > > configuration in user-specific files.
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Philip Hands wrote:
> I thought it might be worth having a non-us site merge the files, so that
> mirrors outside the US could easily include the non-us software just by
> mirroring from me.
Yes, this was supposed to have been done long ago. I don't know who is
responsible t
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 11:42:30AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, but remeber that changes in /etc/skel affect only users that
> > are added in the system _after_ the change. Exeisting users will
> > still have old files. I still wonder, what it helps to
> "Craig" == Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> if this results in a new Qt license which meets the DFSG
Craig> (specifically the items regarding modifying source and
Craig> non-discrimination) then both KDE and Qt can go into debian
Craig> main. i hope that this i
The newest rvplayer in hamm will not install because it provides
'netscape' and some other package does too. What is happening here? I
did not install the netscape deb package.
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James R. Van Zandt writes:
> >I guess you don't count the "router/firewall" as being part of "all
> >the above". I'd suggest it would be put below "standard" (in a
> >"specific setups" section ?), as it is confusing as such.
>
> Actually I did think that the "router/firewall" packages would
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 06:04:31PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote:
> I have made a list of overlaps between packages in hamm and packages
> in bo, and tried to filter out the ones that are not problematic.
> (For example, because they use diversions).
Please, when you do this kind of surveys, in
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The subject in question is whether to include these packages in "stable".
> "unstable" will include them for sure.
I think they are appropriate for "stable" provided they are classifed
as "Extra". That is what the "Extra" priority is for, after all.
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> > > In this case, if somebody has the knowledge to build their own 2.1 kernel
> > > (since one didn't come on the CD), then they have the knowledge necessary
> > > to get packages from "unstable".
> >
> > It's very unpleasant to have to download things whn you have just bought a
> > CD. And man
> > > How many of these people had problems from properly built packages?
> >
> > All of them. It was that the packages didn't work in certain situations.
>
> Were these "Extra" packages?
One was X. I don't recall off hand what the other problems were.
> > > What about people who need such su
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How many of these people had problems from properly built packages?
>
> All of them. It was that the packages didn't work in certain situations.
Were these "Extra" packages?
> > What about people who need such support now (before the cd is released).
>
> > I understand this and it is a good point. My concern is with people
> > who are trying to install Debian and the difficulties they encounter.
> > There have been several posts lately from experienced people who tried
> > to install Debian and had it blow up in their faces. Such happenings
> > c
I have made a list of overlaps between packages in hamm and packages
in bo, and tried to filter out the ones that are not problematic.
(For example, because they use diversions).
My scripts for this are not always accurate, they're a bit old and
creaky. Unfortunately, there are too many overlap
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I understand this and it is a good point. My concern is with people
> who are trying to install Debian and the difficulties they encounter.
> There have been several posts lately from experienced people who tried
> to install Debian and had it blow up in the
Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, but remeber that changes in /etc/skel affect only users that
> are added in the system _after_ the change. Exeisting users will
> still have old files. I still wonder, what it helps to put global
> configuration in user-specific files.
Then you're sayi
> > > What if THEY GOT IT OFF A CD, NOT THE NET? Yes, there are people that are
> > > going to buy CD distributions that include kernel sources, and these
> > > distributions will include 2.1.x and 2.2 when it's released. WHAT DO WE
> > > LOSE by putting support for them in hamm?
> >
> > I think
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Brian White wrote:
> > What if THEY GOT IT OFF A CD, NOT THE NET? Yes, there are people that are
> > going to buy CD distributions that include kernel sources, and these
> > distributions will include 2.1.x and 2.2 when it's released. WHAT DO WE
> > LOSE by putting support fo
Adam P. Harris wrote:
> Well, guys, I'm digging into doc-base. Right now I'm focused on
> fixing bugs for the freeze. There seems to be a few areas for
> interaction between dhelp and doc-base which are tricky to replicate;
> and hence, tricky to fix. Thankfully, the code is very small and
If
> > > They work if you're using a 2.1.x kernel. Since plenty of people can be
> > > expected to get Debian on multi-CD sets which include kernel sources, I
> > > still believe we should ship them.
> > >
> > > Also, what happens when Linus finally puts out the 2.2.0 kernel? I don't
> > > think we'
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Brian White wrote:
> > They work if you're using a 2.1.x kernel. Since plenty of people can be
> > expected to get Debian on multi-CD sets which include kernel sources, I
> > still believe we should ship them.
> >
> > Also, what happens when Linus finally puts out the 2.2.0 k
> They work if you're using a 2.1.x kernel. Since plenty of people can be
> expected to get Debian on multi-CD sets which include kernel sources, I
> still believe we should ship them.
>
> Also, what happens when Linus finally puts out the 2.2.0 kernel? I don't
> think we're going to be making a
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Brian White wrote:
> > > In this case, if somebody has the knowledge to build their own 2.1 kernel
> > > (since one didn't come on the CD), then they have the knowledge necessary
> > > to get packages from "unstable".
> >
> > It's very unpleasant to have to download things wh
On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Jeff Noxon wrote:
: Anyone have a digitized copy of this? :)
:
: Thanks,
http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/980408.atc.14.ram
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> I think it's clear the intent is to say that CMU is legally distributing AFS.
> the terms under which CMU is distributing it are as stated above and are DFSG
> compliant. I think that's all we're concerned with: the terms under which our
> users can use, modify, and distribute the software.
>
>
I'm away for six days.
See you later...
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Henry Hollenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone assesed the impact of the bind exploit announced by CERT
> today.
> I'm using bind_4.9.6-1.deb, so would be curious as to where I stood,
> what the fixes were.
> Thanks
>Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ya know what sucks?
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 08:36:33AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The policy is to keep /etc/skel minimal, to avoid unecessary bloat of
> > /home structure... keep in mind that many ISP's have thousands of users.
> (3) Administrators, even administrators w
> > In this case, if somebody has the knowledge to build their own 2.1 kernel
> > (since one didn't come on the CD), then they have the knowledge necessary
> > to get packages from "unstable".
>
> It's very unpleasant to have to download things whn you have just bought a
> CD. And many users are
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#12443: debmake: uupdate should support pristine sources
I have never used uupdate, so if anyone volunteers, I will accept patches.
Since most tarballs uncompress now into a single directory, it would
ok if uupdate is changed so that it support *only* pristine
On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 07:30:23PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wrote:
> > make it to FAQ, but i can't possibly understand what damage is done if the
> > default prompt is changed to PS1="\w\$ " .
> Like that it won't work for anyone who uses a Bourne shell other th
Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The policy is to keep /etc/skel minimal, to avoid unecessary bloat of
> /home structure... keep in mind that many ISP's have thousands of users.
(1) If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
(2) /etc/skel/ already has a .bashrc and a .bash_profile.
(3)
I'm on vacation from tomorrow till 04/20, so if something serious
should be with my packages, feel free to make non-maintainer uploads.
Roman
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On Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 07:29:00PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>
> > This is a partial list of http enabled mirrors, I did the US and UK.
> > There are 13 sites listed here. If someone would like to go through the
> > rest of the mirror list then please do
> Can someone hack dinstall to install packages which are not PGP
> signed but has been copied to incoming? If the UID of the files is
> the one of a developer we can know who did upload the package.
No, because the upload queues also use known UIDs, but may allow
everyone to upload. (BTW, the qu
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On 8 Apr 1998, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> Why isn't "/var/run" set like "/tmp"? Shouldn't user-run programs be
> able to write a pid file there?
I don't think so. According to the FSSTND:
5.10 /var/run : Run-time variable files
This directory contains syst
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On 9 Apr 1998, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> Attached is the COPYING file from `scsh-0.5.1'.
Use of this program for commercial purposes is also permitted, but
only if, in addition to the acknowledgement required for
non-commercial users, written notification o
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes:
> Attached is the COPYING file from `scsh-0.5.1'. May this program go
> into "main"?
As already stated by myself and others: no.
> That would be wonderful. I would like to package `guile-scsh' as
> well. It bears the similar licence.
It bears the
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Why isn't "/var/run" set like "/tmp"? Shouldn't user-run programs be
> able to write a pid file there?
No, you don't want users to stop certain daemons from running by putting pid
files in there (sure this isn't likely but it is possible).
If you wan
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> make it to FAQ, but i can't possibly understand what damage is done if the
> default prompt is changed to PS1="\w\$ " .
Like that it won't work for anyone who uses a Bourne shell other than bash?
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> This is a partial list of http enabled mirrors, I did the US and UK.
> There are 13 sites listed here. If someone would like to go through the
> rest of the mirror list then please do :>
deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian stable main contrib non-fre
Hi,
I've set up a merged us/non-us site, on debian.hands.com, which should be
accessible thus:
# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
deb http://debian.hands.com/debian/ stable main contrib non-free non-us
deb http://debian.hands.com/debian/ frozen main contrib non-free non-us
deb http://debian.hands.com/debian/
Hi,
>>"Marco" == Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Marco> On Apr 08, Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Anyway, I fail to see WHY we should allow non PGP signed packages.
Marco> Because it's not easy to sign .dsc and .changes files via a ssh
Marco> pipe when compiling packages
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 11:06:44AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The point is new users.
> Then we should be talking about /etc/skel/, rather than /etc/profile
The policy is to keep /etc/skel minimal, to avoid unecessary bloat of
/home structure... keep
Attached is the COPYING file from `scsh-0.5.1'. May this program go
into "main"? That would be wonderful. I would like to package
`guile-scsh' as well. It bears the similar licence.
COPYING
Description: Binary data
On Apr 08, Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Definatly not an option, since people uploading anonymously to chiark
>would be able to upload whatever in the distribution since the files
>arrive in Incoming/ with IanJ's UID (also hold for other upload queues).
We could maintain a list
Alex Romosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> go to http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/current.html and
> listen to it.
OK, is there any easy way to download a copy of it? I could only get
the proxy files, but I'm probably overlooking something obvious.
Thanks.
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On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:
> Well, this is what I use it for myself. I use PS1='\h:\w\$ ' for an
> ordinary user and PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' for root. Rationale: I'm root
> only
> in my machine (as most Debian users, I think) and therefore when I'm
> "sanvila" I am not
go to http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/current.html and
listen to it.
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Why isn't "/var/run" set like "/tmp"? Shouldn't user-run programs be
able to write a pid file there?
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On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> This is a partial list of http enabled mirrors, I did the US and UK.
> There are 13 sites listed here. If someone would like to go through the
> rest of the mirror list then
On Apr 08, Jeff Noxon decided to present us with:
> Anyone have a digitized copy of this? :)
I read at slashdot that the company that recorded the program
(sorry for forgetting the name, I'm not in US) will put it
online tomorrow, likely as RA.
[]s,
No, it still mens that QT is under a restrictive license. It does mean
however that one of the biggest worries with QT has gone away. Troll
can NEVER charge for QT free now. EVER. And if anything happens to
Troll, QT becomes BSD licensed -- AT THAT POINT IN TIME. But not yet.
Not now. QT mak
On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 08:50:56PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 08:23:48PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > Can someone hack dinstall to install packages which are not PGP signed
> > but has been copied to incoming? If the UID of the files is the one of a
> > developer we c
On 8 Apr 1998, Stephen Zander wrote:
> Anyone care to comment?
the announcement doesn't mention any change to the Qt license, just the
formation of a Qt foundation.
if this results in a new Qt license which meets the DFSG (specifically
the items regarding modifying source and non-discrimination)
I have seen this problem before with some overeager Configure scripts.
Guy
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> While I agree with the merrits of your previous arguments, I don't see
> what this has to do with the constitution. The secretary has "powers"
> which allow the secretary to execute that office.
>
As long as section 4.2.5 is not violated then you are quite right.
I was simply over-reacting to t
Here are three package selections to start things off. They are based
on the package priorities: The first includes only "base", the second
adds "important", and the third adds "standard". The only real oddity
is that gcc and cpp are among "base". Is this only because dpkg needs
it, to get the
Anders Hammarquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This file contains some code identical to or derived from the 1986
> version of the Andrew File System ("AFS"), which is owned by the IBM
> Corporation.This code is provded "AS IS" and IBM does not warrant
> that it is free of infringemen
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Raul Miller wrote:
> > I think this is so bad that every binary copy of grep 2.1-7 should be
> > deleted from every archive as soon as possible.
Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You mean 2.1-6?
Oops. yes.
I'd hand-patched my system and hadn't noticed that
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> I think this is so bad that every binary copy of grep 2.1-7 should be
> deleted from every archive as soon as possible.
You mean 2.1-6?
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> In this case, if somebody has the knowledge to build their own 2.1 kernel
> (since one didn't come on the CD), then they have the knowledge necessary
> to get packages from "unstable".
It's very unpleasant to have to download things whn you have just bought a
CD. And many users are forced to us
> However, I don't think this one is 'important'. I'd say the
> distribution is better off with lftp than without, even if it has
> this bug.
It works perfectly. Try lftp! The best FTP client program...!
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Yann -
>James R. Van Zandt writes:
> > ( ) minimal 40 MB
> > ( ) router/firewall 70 MB
> > ( ) server (ftp, nfs, smb, and http servers) 90 MB
> > ( ) workstation (a
> However, I'm willing to set default root's prompt in base-files to
> '\h:\w\$ ' if enough people prefer it to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ '.
>
> What do others think about this?
PS1='\h:\w\$ '
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Has anyone assesed the impact of the bind exploit announced by CERT today.
I'm using bind_4.9.6-1.deb, so would be curious as to where I stood, what
the fixes were.
Thanks
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On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Anders Hammarquist wrote:
> I'm looking into packaging CMU's coda distributed filesystem. It is based on
> AFS, with enhancements to allow disconnected use. There are kernel drivers
> for
> it in the 2.1.x series and they are available as patches for the 2.0.x series.
>
> S
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the broken grep (I think it is filed as a Bug already) will do a lot of
> damage to your system. It will kill your Windowmanger -list if you install a
> Windowmanager, and it will make the /etc/X11/config not work
> (user-xsession).
There are a bunch of
G John Lapeyre wrote:
> Just played in AZ, US.
> I had to listen to 50 minutes of crap about presidents and big
> companies ! They should have put Linux first.
> Stallman may be a bit of a crank, but I'd be upset too about GNU
> being downplayed out of existence.
They put Linux
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Raul Miller wrote:
>>
>> Then we should be talking about /etc/skel/, rather than /etc/profile
> Well, if we talk about /etc/skel, then we could ask:
> Is there any other shell which reads .bash_profile?
No, only bash does.
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