Re: (forw) Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Even though there are different locale variants available for historical > reasons, I think there is no reason we need to support more than one > variant for each locale in new installs. So a simple mapping list in > countrychooser should be sufficien

Re: (forw) Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 07:12:27AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Denis Barbier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > But generated locales differ because different encodings are passed to > > localedef: > > $ LANG=fr_FR locale charmap > > ISO-8859-1 > > $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] locale charmap > >

Re: dropping tc1

2004-06-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Which I currently do not understand really. I suspect this is because > all countries that are likely to be displayed in this short list do > not have their name translated in Arabic but I'm unsure No, this is because countrychooser does not ha

Re: (forw) Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Denis Barbier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > But generated locales differ because different encodings are passed to > localedef: > $ LANG=fr_FR locale charmap > ISO-8859-1 > $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] locale charmap > ISO-8859-15 > > Steve mentions in another message that switching fr_FR encodin

Re: dropping tc1

2004-06-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Just to confirm, there are a fair number of translations available for > languagechooser, and the reason for the full countrychooser list was > that I was testing Arabic, which doesn't have a shortlist yet. :) Which I currently do not understand reall

Re: dropping tc1

2004-06-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 10:32:51PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > In the tests I've done with the new languagechooser, almost all of the > > entries are displayed in English, and there doesn't seem to be a short > > list provided by countrychooser

Re: (forw) Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-21 Thread Denis Barbier
IL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1) > > Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > (comparing fr_FR and [EMAIL PROTECTED] more generally all @euro > variants of locales) > > > So there&#

Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 05:45:21PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > (comparing fr_FR and [EMAIL PROTECTED] more generally all @euro > variants of locales) > > So there's no difference in the actual charset that each is pointed to, > > the only differ

Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): (comparing fr_FR and [EMAIL PROTECTED] more generally all @euro variants of locales) > So there's no difference in the actual charset that each is pointed to, > the only difference is in a comment about the charset? Yes, as far as I understand. [EMAIL

Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-21 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 21 June 2004 17:20, Steve Langasek wrote: > So there's no difference in the actual charset that each is pointed to, > the only difference is in a comment about the charset? Well, the line definitely is a comment. I don't see a reference to a

Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 04:40:50PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Monday 21 June 2004 16:06, Christian Perrier wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] basically is a copy of fr_FR:-) > Hmm yes, I see what you mean. > The same goes for nl_NL and nl_BE (and for de_LU and es_ES which I checked at > random).

Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-21 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 21 June 2004 16:06, Christian Perrier wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] basically is a copy of fr_FR:-) Hmm yes, I see what you mean. The same goes for nl_NL and nl_BE (and for de_LU and es_ES which I checked at random). There's really only th

Re: @euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Is there some table available that lists primary currency for a country? Not afaik Funnily, I indeed begin to wonder whether we still need these "@euro" variants. When comparing fr_FR and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I only see the comment about Charset to be d

@euro support with new languagechooser (was: dropping tc1)

2004-06-21 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 15 June 2004 06:46, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Maybe one issue: I now get LANG=nl_NL in /etc/environment; I think this > > used to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]; was that changed ?? > > The way the locale is

Re: dropping tc1

2004-06-18 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-14 13:13]: > - some broken m68k images (unknown mke2fs fix needed) Vince, since you debugged genext2fs a bit already, maybe you could take a look at this? -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subjec

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 07:00:59AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I can't make that, I'm afraid. Of your other slots, 23:00 UTC on > > Saturday is fine, and 16:00 UTC works practically every day apart from > > this Wednesday and Saturday. > Hmm, yo

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Kenshi Muto ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I prefer Saturday 23:00 UTC than Saturday 16:00 UTC. > > Because I have a party with friends and drinks at Saturday evening > (noon in UTC). :-) As the meeting has been announced on IRC /topic, I prefer currently leaving this hour of 16:00. If too much p

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-16 Thread Kenshi Muto
At 16 Jun 04 05:00:59 GMT, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I can't make that, I'm afraid. Of your other slots, 23:00 UTC on > > Saturday is fine, and 16:00 UTC works practically every day apart from > > this Wednesday and Saturday. > > Hmm, you were among m

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-15 Thread Matt Kraai
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 08:40:06PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > I currently propose Saturday June 19th, 16:00 UTC as a first > possibility.?#debian-boot channel, of course. > > > > Folks, please confirm wheher you can attend this meeting. > (Joey already counted as not attending) > > 1) Ch

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I can't make that, I'm afraid. Of your other slots, 23:00 UTC on > Saturday is fine, and 16:00 UTC works practically every day apart from > this Wednesday and Saturday. Hmm, you were among my key people...:-). If Steve isn't available, we'll either can

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-15 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Hi, I also have interest to participate on meeting (specially about the install manual translation topic). I agreed with being on Saturday - 19 June - if possible (for most people is the best time to participate, because is a non work hour). > Folks, please confirm wheher you can attend this m

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 08:40:06PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > I currently propose Saturday June 19th, 16:00 UTC as a first > possibility. #debian-boot channel, of course. > > > > Folks, please confirm wheher you can attend this meeting. > (Joey already counted as not attending) I can't m

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-15 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 08:40:06PM +0200, Christian Perrier ha scritto: [...] > I currently propose Saturday June 19th, 16:00 UTC as a first > possibility. #debian-boot channel, of course. > > > Folks, please confirm wheher you can attend this meeting. > (Joey already counted as not attending) >

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-15 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
> > Basically, I think your "dropping tc1" mail could be a start. Just get > all the points one by one and assign ourselves tasks. > > This is probably, imho, what's currently missing : have assigned tasks > and regular points for confirming what is advancing and what

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I hope if it's a formal meeting that there are some known topics for us > to discuss. This could be a good idea, at least it can't hurt to try it. Basically, I think your "dropping tc1" mail could be a start. Just get all the po

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-15 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Perrier wrote: > It seems to me that a kind of "formal" meeting on IRC would help all > of us in organising our work. > > We maybe lack that kind of formal stuff (just an idea "en l'air"). I hope if it's a formal meeting that there are some known topics for us to discuss. This could be

Re: Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-15 Thread Kenshi Muto
Hi, At 15 Jun 04 07:31:49 GMT, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > It seems to me that a kind of "formal" meeting on IRC would help all > of us in organising our work. > > We maybe lack that kind of formal stuff (just an idea "en l'air"). > > As Joey leaves on Thu

Proposal for a d-i IRC meeting (was: Re: dropping tc1)

2004-06-15 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > It looks like we have to throw out tc1 as not good enough for release. > The release critical problems include: It seems to me that a kind of "formal" meeting on IRC would help all of us in organising our work. We maybe lack that kind of formal stuff (just

Re: dropping tc1

2004-06-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Maybe one issue: I now get LANG=nl_NL in /etc/environment; I think this used > to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]; was that changed ?? The way the locale is built. It is now language_COUNTRY, built from the languagechooser choices. Formerly, in "all in one" combina

Re: dropping tc1

2004-06-14 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 14 June 2004 22:32, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > In the tests I've done with the new languagechooser, almost all of the > > entries are displayed in English, and there doesn't seem to be a short >

Re: dropping tc1

2004-06-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > In the tests I've done with the new languagechooser, almost all of the > entries are displayed in English, and there doesn't seem to be a short > list provided by countrychooser. This seems like a significant > regression for the common case; I think

Re: dropping tc1

2004-06-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 08:18:26PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > I'll be away for a week after Tuesday. I hope some of these issues are > > resolved when I get back so that we can begin getting a tc2 ready. In > > the meantime, tbm and kamion have the ability to get fixed udebs into > > test

Re: dropping tc1

2004-06-14 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > IMHO, it's worth it as it definitely solves the "invalid locales" > problems when choosing unsupported combinations such as English in > Brazil. But, well, I would perfectly understand if this is delayed because of potential unknown implications (

Re: dropping tc1

2004-06-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> I'll be away for a week after Tuesday. I hope some of these issues are > resolved when I get back so that we can begin getting a tc2 ready. In > the meantime, tbm and kamion have the ability to get fixed udebs into > testing. Since tc1 is a lost cause, there's no reason not to start with > getti

dropping tc1

2004-06-14 Thread Joey Hess
It looks like we have to throw out tc1 as not good enough for release. The release critical problems include: - some broken m68k images (unknown mke2fs fix needed) - broken sparc64 module loading (fix: busybox-cvs 20040415-3) - messed up line drawing characters in base-config (fix: base-config