I like your suggestion, too.
It's so important to have a distro that installs a command line desktop.
Debian has all the pieces to do it.
Best wishes,
David
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019, 13:21 Mewtamer wrote:
> This is just a suggestion, but perhaps, instead of having "Debian
> Desktop Environment" as
On 2/9/2019 7:21 PM, Mewtamer wrote:
> This is just a suggestion, but perhaps, instead of having "Debian
> Desktop Environment" as an alias for the default without any
> explanation, perhaps it would be better to restructure the software
> selection menu to something like:
>
> 1. Gnome Desktop Envi
This is just a suggestion, but perhaps, instead of having "Debian
Desktop Environment" as an alias for the default without any
explanation, perhaps it would be better to restructure the software
selection menu to something like:
1. Gnome Desktop Environment(Debian Default)
2. Mate Desktop Environm
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:36 AM Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Ok, then you need to discuss this with the rest of the Debian GNOME
> > team. I suggest the debian-gtk-gnome list. (And I think it would have
> > been more polite to talk to them before talking to the tasksel team.)
> >
> > It's a bit late
Jeremy Bicha, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 20:05:03 -0500, a ecrit:
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:37 PM Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > As mentioned earlier in the thread, the default desktop for
> > accessibility is already MATE. I'm here talking about the choice of
> > default desktop for Debian indeed. IIRC o
On 2/9/2019 2:05 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:37 PM Samuel Thibault wrote:
>> As mentioned earlier in the thread, the default desktop for
>> accessibility is already MATE. I'm here talking about the choice of
>> default desktop for Debian indeed. IIRC one of the reasons for t
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:37 PM Samuel Thibault wrote:
> As mentioned earlier in the thread, the default desktop for
> accessibility is already MATE. I'm here talking about the choice of
> default desktop for Debian indeed. IIRC one of the reasons for the
> choice of gnome was its general accessibi
Jeremy Bicha, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:57:30 -0500, a ecrit:
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:07 PM Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> > updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> > for accessibility. Accessi
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:07 PM Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in
> all kinds of places, and
Checking Aptitude, libgtk-3-0 depends on libwayland-client, and
Firefox depends on libgtk-3-0 and Orca has libwayland-client and
libgtk-3-0 somewhere in its dependency chains. I don't run a full
desktop environment, but as these are the only graphical programs I
run, I suspect most, if not all, cur
On 08/02/2019 19:24, john doe wrote:
> Do you have any pointers on where I can find what happened in Mate with
> regard to blindness?
Well I am not Samuel, but I will give my answers ;)
First of all, you'd need to have compiz-reloaded version 8-16, released
two months ago to get all the enhacemen
john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 19:43:22 +0100, a ecrit:
> On 2/8/2019 7:25 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 19:09:39 +0100, a ecrit:
> >> On 2/8/2019 6:47 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> >>> Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42 +, a ecrit:
> On Fri, Feb
On 2/8/2019 7:25 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 19:09:39 +0100, a ecrit:
>> On 2/8/2019 6:47 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>> Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42 +, a ecrit:
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 06:07:17PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Re-open
john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 19:09:39 +0100, a ecrit:
> On 2/8/2019 6:47 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42 +, a ecrit:
> >> On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 06:07:17PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> >>> Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a
On 2/8/2019 6:45 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:39:39 +0100, a ecrit:
>> What about Orca?
>> The last time I checked Mate, it wasn't as usable as 'Debian desktop
>> environment' (Gnome).
>
> When was that time?
> A lot of things happened on the Mate side :)
>
A fie
On 2/8/2019 6:47 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42 +, a ecrit:
>> On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 06:07:17PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>> Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
>>> updated information: the current gn
Hello,
Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42 +, a ecrit:
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 06:07:17PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> > updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> > for acce
john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:39:39 +0100, a ecrit:
> What about Orca?
> The last time I checked Mate, it wasn't as usable as 'Debian desktop
> environment' (Gnome).
When was that time?
A lot of things happened on the Mate side :)
Samuel
Hi Samuel,
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 06:07:17PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in
> all
On 2/8/2019 6:07 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in
> all kinds of places, and
Hello,
Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in
all kinds of places, and nobody is working on fixing them yet. Also,
MATE+Compiz
I think there could be two distinct sets of criteria:
1. criteria for the premier desktop to suit most users - it's
counter-productive for portability to be a major factor in this
2. criteria for the next-best desktop where 1. isn't practical -
portability, versatility and media size are much m
On 11/09/14 19:26, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 06:11:22PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
>> Fair enough if a Debian desktop doesn't want to support "toy
>> architectures" (I don't mind use of this term).
>
> So you call all but two[1] of Debian architectures (14+9) "toys"[2]?
> So it looks like gnome3 is the only one that doesn't work on most
> architectures.
You tested qemu, not real hardware.
For your tests to be really meaningful, they would have to be done on
actual hardware.
That said, I don't see a good reason why availability on architectures
should be a decidi
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 05:36:18PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> I just re-checked on powerpc in qemu, unlike my other setups it's not a real
> machine, but qemu is at least a reproducible setup without out-of-archive
> bits like all three of my armhf rigs.
> I'd say you'd need 'availability' or '
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 06:11:22PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> On 11/09/14 16:36, Adam Borowski wrote:
> >> What happens otherwise if trying to start GNOME3 (or others)?
> >> * without 3D, with llvmpipe
> >> * without both
> >
> > llvmpipe doesn't work at all -- not ported to -- on !x86 !ar
On 11/09/14 16:36, Adam Borowski wrote:
>> What happens otherwise if trying to start GNOME3 (or others)?
>> * without 3D, with llvmpipe
>> * without both
>
> llvmpipe doesn't work at all -- not ported to -- on !x86 !armhf.
>
>> Does it fall back gracefully to a fallback/flashback mode, and does t
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:56:58AM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> On 10/09/14 07:40, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > I think the "DebianDesktop requalification" table lacks an important
> > row: the availability of the desktop environment in question on all
> > Debian architectures.
>
> Not everyone
Quoting Joey Hess (jo...@debian.org):
> Adam Borowski wrote:
> > I think the "DebianDesktop requalification" table lacks an important
> > row: the availability of the desktop environment in question on all
> > Debian architectures.
>
> While that can be a minor consideration (it would be nicest to
Adam Borowski wrote:
> I think the "DebianDesktop requalification" table lacks an important
> row: the availability of the desktop environment in question on all
> Debian architectures.
While that can be a minor consideration (it would be nicest to be
consistent if possible), we've had different d
Steven Chamberlain, le Wed 10 Sep 2014 11:56:58 +0100, a écrit :
> What happens otherwise if trying to start GNOME3 (or others)?
> * without 3D, with llvmpipe
> * without both
>
> Does it fall back gracefully to a fallback/flashback mode, and does that
> still work these days? In this mode would
On 10/09/14 07:40, Adam Borowski wrote:
> I think the "DebianDesktop requalification" table lacks an important
> row: the availability of the desktop environment in question on all
> Debian architectures.
Not everyone has been persuaded on that principle yet :P But on
kfreebsd CDs we can at least
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