Re: java atk wrapper in bookworm

2025-01-22 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, sorry for bringing this old topic up again. I tested java in trixie and found no usable jre with atkwrapper. Could the old patch be reintegrated so blind people can use swing based java apps in trixie? This is a relly show stopper for me because I need a working java at work. BR. Halim

Re: java atk wrapper in bookworm

2023-09-26 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, I am now confused. Samuel wrote that ubuntu has removed a patch which is needed to load atk-wrapper into jre. openjdk-17 has the mentioned issue openjdk-19-jre:amd64 works as expected regarding atk-wrapper. tested on a machine running ubuntu 22.04. Was the patch only removed for jre-17? A

java atk wrapper in bookworm

2023-09-19 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Folks, a few months ago I've tested a beta or rc of bookworm with java-atk-wrapper and it worked. After bookworm was released something is wrong on my machine or in bookworm. When I enable assistive_technologies=org.GNOME.Accessibility.AtkWrapper in accessibility.properties My Application d

Re: Improved choice selection in speech-enabled Debian installer

2022-04-25 Thread Halim Sahin
Am 13.04.22 um 23:47 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Hello, I have improved the choice selection in the speech-enabled Debian installer, please give it a try: https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso The idea is that one can now not only type the number followed by enter, but also select the

Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-09-01 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel, I am sorry I was not able to build java-atk-wrapper in debian sid as well. How did you build java-atk-wrapper on you machine? BR. Halim

Re: java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-09-01 Thread Halim Sahin
Am 31.08.21 um 10:30 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Hello Halim, Samuel Thibault wrote: Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 26 août 2021 01:09:46 +0200, a ecrit: > - jaw still relying on the AT_SPI_BUS X property (but possibly some > other toolkits do that as well, but on wayland it'll have to go > through

java-atk-wrapper: which files ar used in /run/user/1000/*

2021-06-14 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, when a running desktop crashs or a user does sudo systemctl lightdm restart a11y including orca etc works as expected. Only java apps which use atk-wrapper is completely inaccessible. Then removing all files in /run/user/1000/* works or a full reboot. My Question is: which files are needed

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-10-14 Thread Halim Sahin
pi support. MfG. Halim Am 10.10.20 um 17:15 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Halim Sahin, le ven. 09 oct. 2020 19:30:06 +0200, a ecrit: well updated qemu to 5.0 from ppa on ubuntu 20.04. running brltty inside qemu-kvm displays nothing on the braille display. As I mentioned previously, please send the who

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-10-12 Thread Halim Sahin
Am 10.10.20 um 17:15 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Halim Sahin, le ven. 09 oct. 2020 19:30:06 +0200, a ecrit: well updated qemu to 5.0 from ppa on ubuntu 20.04. running brltty inside qemu-kvm displays nothing on the braille display. As I mentioned previously, please send the whole content from

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-10-09 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, well updated qemu to 5.0 from ppa on ubuntu 20.04. running brltty inside qemu-kvm displays nothing on the braille display. My guest operating system was debian buster. BR. Halim

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-16 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel, I.ll try that setup again with a fresh ubuntu 20.04 setup. My machine was updated from 18.04. Alls seems working well and there is a log entry when qemu start in brltty.log but I can't get any output on the host. I se nothing wrong in the log except 2020-09-16@10:43:09.908 [brltty] U

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-16 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, yes, orca works fine. what about xbrlapi? Does qemu use it? MfG. Halim

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-16 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Am 16.09.20 um 09:40 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Halim Sahin, le mer. 16 sept. 2020 08:13:37 +0200, a ecrit: Am 15.09.20 um 10:38 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > Halim Sahin, le mar. 15 sept. 2020 10:17:57 +0200, a ecrit: > > $WINDOWSID is not set on my machine :-(, who sets it? > &

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-15 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel, Am 15.09.20 um 10:38 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Halim Sahin, le mar. 15 sept. 2020 10:17:57 +0200, a ecrit: How does this work $WINDOWID is this an environment variable? It should be when you are running under X. OK. $WINDOWSID is not set on my machine :-(, who sets it? How

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-15 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, my misstake sorry now I have a terminal where windowid is set. Will test and report (thx). MfG. Halim

Re: using kvm with brltty

2020-09-15 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel, I am confused a bit. How does this work $WINDOWID is this an environment variable? $WINDOWSID is not set on my machine :-(, who sets it? Should your mentioned bug reported to upstream? Regards Halim Am 14.09.20 um 21:53 schrieb Samuel Thibault: Hello, Halim Sahin, le lun. 14

using kvm with brltty

2020-09-14 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, my host pc is running ubuntu 20.04 with brltty 6.0. Now I tried to use kvm to install a debian buster vm. qemu-system-x86_64 -m 4G -usb -usbdevice braille -cdrom debian...netinst.iso . qemu starts up and info usb in qemu console displays a braille device but nothing was displayed on t

Re: orca and remote apps from ssh session

2020-04-23 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel, Seems you've looked into this in the past :-). It might be useful for some remote sessions for my daily work but can't implement this myself. Thx for your answer! MfG. Halim Sahin

orca and remote apps from ssh session

2020-04-22 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Any one who got this working? In some cases it might be useful to run an app (in ssh) and get feedback from local running orca. Thx in Advance. Halim

Re: a11y of lxqt

2019-11-15 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Ok,, it was my fault sorry. Installed lxqt again on my buster vm. sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager There select lxqt. Orca libatk ... are from buster-backports. Now the desktop seems accessible :-). To run orca use simply alt+f2 and type orca. Like in other enviroments :-).

a11y of lxqt

2019-11-12 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Is lxqt accessible in debian Buster? Regards halim

Re: Using Mbrola with BRLTTY

2018-07-28 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Sa, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:51:59 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Halim Sahin, le sam. 28 juil. 2018 10:10:23 +0200, a ecrit: On Fr, Jul 27, 2018 at 03:17:30 +0200, Ali Gürler wrote: > > is there any chance to use the mbrola voices with BRLTTY? Yes if you write a speech-dispatcher g

Re: Using Mbrola with BRLTTY

2018-07-28 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Sa, Jul 28, 2018 at 12:24:20 +0200, Sebastian Humenda wrote: Halim Sahin schrieb am 28.07.2018, 10:10 +0200: On Fr, Jul 27, 2018 at 03:17:30 +0200, Ali Gürler wrote: is there any chance to use the mbrola voices with BRLTTY? Yes if you write a speech-dispatcher generic module for txt2pho

Re: Using Mbrola with BRLTTY

2018-07-28 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Ali, On Fr, Jul 27, 2018 at 03:17:30 +0200, Ali Gürler wrote: is there any chance to use the mbrola voices with BRLTTY? Yes if you write a speech-dispatcher generic module for txt2pho and mbrola and add it to speechd.conf I would like to do so, but I don't find any documentation. ta

Re: Pluseaudio, speech-dispatcher, and console + graphical screen readers

2015-10-29 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On So, Okt 04, 2015 at 11:59:14 +0200, Christian Schoepplein wrote: > @Halim: Would you describe more detailed your setup with alsa please? > Wich steps did you perform after a fresh installation of Debian? First follow these stes described here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudi

Re: No speech in recent stretch?

2015-10-28 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Di, Okt 27, 2015 at 01:59:14 +0100, Mario Lang wrote: > I ended up deinstalling pulseaudio, so that I can at least have music in > X11. But I dont have any speech output at all. You can change audio output method from pulse to libao in speechd.conf like this: AudioOutputMethod "libao" Don'

Re: No speech in recent stretch?

2015-10-25 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, I don't think that what Mario wrote has something to do with speech-dispatcher. He wrote that orca running in gdm session talks so it must be an other issue here. On So, Okt 25, 2015 at 12:23:27 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > I have just uploaded the newer release of speech-dispa

Re: Bug#801670: speech-dispatcher: Hangs and does no longer take speech from Orca until killed

2015-10-13 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Which audiooutputmethod are you using? If you use pulseaudio it might be interesting to find out if speech-dispatcher was crashed or pulseaudio. HTH.

Re: Pluseaudio, speech-dispatcher, and console + graphical screen readers

2015-10-05 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Di, Okt 06, 2015 at 08:49:07 +1100, Luke Yelavich wrote: > Currently work is ongoing to refactor the audio code in Speech > Dispatcher. However, this probably could be done even now, and is likely > the way to go given that the new code in Speech DIspatcher has no ETA on > release, as there

Re: Pluseaudio, speech-dispatcher, and console + graphical screen readers

2015-10-04 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Fr, Okt 02, 2015 at 03:41:59 +, Sam Hartman wrote: > the latency you're talking about there is very close to what you'd see > if you restart the streat between speech-dispatcher and pulseaudio and > that restarts the alsa stream within pulseaudio. My prefered setup doesn't restart alsa

Re: Pluseaudio, speech-dispatcher, and console + graphical screen readers

2015-09-30 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, I am not sure if I got it right. If you want to shutdown connection to pa every time after speechoutput this will produce latency and would reduce responsiveness of speechd. Responsiveness is an important thing for a11y Applications. Maybe there is an easy fix for accessible installations of d

Re: Pluseaudio, speech-dispatcher, and console + graphical screen readers

2015-09-24 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Mo, Aug 31, 2015 at 05:11:27 +0200, Mario Lang wrote: > We need to identify common use cases which currently have problems in > any of these areas. If you know of any, speak up. Common usecase? It should be possible to use a console screenreader with braille and speech running on the same

error in speech-dispatcher init script in debian stable

2015-07-25 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, if [ "x$RUN" != "xyes" ... will not allow to enable speechd in /etc/default/speech-dispatcher when setting RUN=yes I am aware that running speechd in system mode is not recommended but I see no reliable working setup for using plain text consoles. Using pulseaudio for speechd will not work wit

Re: restart of brltty not working correctly

2015-07-12 Thread Halim Sahin
well. The Problem seems the stop action in the systemd service file. systemctl stop brltty The service file was not modified! HTH. Halim On Do, Jul 09, 2015 at 10:29:08 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Halim Sahin, le Tue 30 Jun 2015 14:23:31 +0200, a écrit : > > Whe

restart of brltty not working correctly

2015-06-30 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, When I try to systemctl restart brltty The shell freezes. I must reconnect my brailledisplay (el80s) to get brltty running again. Ideas? MfG. Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists

Re: brltty handy tech issue

2015-06-02 Thread Halim Sahin
Hallo Mario, I used Brltty from jessie and my Display is a braillestar 40. It is connected via usb. MfG. Halim On Di, Jun 02, 2015 at 12:22:35 +0200, Mario Lang wrote: > Halim Sahin writes: > > > Hi, > > Brltty doesn't accept any key on the brailledisplay if it displ

brltty handy tech issue

2015-05-28 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Brltty doesn't accept any key on the brailledisplay if it displayed a frequently chaning content. EG.: start playing a file in mplayer with the std status line on the bottom of the display turned on. After some time the handytech braille keys don't work any more. restarting brltty helps. Reg

Trouble with brltty-speechd in jessie

2015-05-25 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, When I open a text in EG. vim and start to read it with the arrowkeys on the keyboard, brltty stops speech when the bottom of the screen is reached and brltty start to scroll the screen. I am using brltty-speechd with espeak but it's not related to the speechdriver because brlty-espeak pr

orca and iceweasel in debian wheezy not working well since iceweasel 31 upgrade

2014-10-26 Thread Halim Sahin
hi, Currently orca doesn't work very well with currently shipped iceweasel 31 version in debian stable. I was told that a mapping should be added to orca for loading the correct firefox script. I did some testing and found that some tracesbacks in orca don't happen. The mentioned addition doesn't f

Re: solution to the problem of orca and gecko not working in non-gnome environment

2014-03-11 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, I would prefer to fix it in debian's directory structure and not in iceweasel package. It should be possible to use an upstream firefox without recompiling it under debian when using xfce etc. Just my two cents. MfG. Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian

Re: systemd and accessible vt's

2013-12-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Di, Dez 03, 2013 at 06:59:13 +0100, Sebastian Humenda wrote: > Halim Sahin schrieb am 03.12.2013, 18:17 +0100: > >Last week I've read about a rfc in systemd which tries to implement vt > >in userspace. > >In that case config_vt in kernel don't need to be set

systemd and accessible vt's

2013-12-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi all, Last week I've read about a rfc in systemd which tries to implement vt in userspace. In that case config_vt in kernel don't need to be set. If someone tries to remove vt support from kernel completely we.ll loose a great, stable environment. Afaik sbl and brltty depend on /dev/vcs* /dev/tty

Re: Accessibility as a reason to switch to XFCE?

2013-11-09 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi all, In my point of view debian should really change it's default desktop to xfce because of the systemd requirement of gnome. I am not happy with current situation but debian support other os's as well and systemd is only available for Linux. At this time I.ll whant to say thx to all people wh

Problem running lxde and iceweasel in wheezy

2013-07-06 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Ok it seems gnome-3.4 is not much usable in wheezy due to posted stability problems. Unfortunately xfce is at 4.8. so I installed lxde and got a11y working except iceweasel. What I did: export GNOME_ACCESSIBILITY=1 export MOZILLA_ACCESSIBILITY=1 export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge Now iceweasel

problems and crashes in Wheezy

2013-07-03 Thread Halim Sahin
x27;s really hard to configure because of pulseaudio. Endusers maybe don't want to use plain textconsole but currently it would be hard to get speech in console and orca working at the same time. Regards Halim Sahin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.deb

Re: Orca is not interrupted when a key is pressed in gnome control center

2013-04-09 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, It's an known bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=691468 HTH. Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130409113042.ga3...@hit-

Re: wheezy and iceweasel: toggling live region settings not working?

2013-03-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Why ask in orca list? with orca-3.4.2 running on my gentoo machine it works as expected. Only my wheezy installation has this problem. Could you please try to verify it? Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

wheezy and iceweasel: toggling live region settings not working?

2013-03-02 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, i don't know if this is my fault or changed keybinding. Afaik a backslash "\" should toggle through advanced politeness live region settings in orca. In my wheezy test system I see no change when typing \. I've also tested with a binary firefox from mozilla.org. Can you help? BR. Halim --

more info Re: gnome-control-center and orca in wheezy

2013-03-02 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=691468 Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302080810.GA13753@gentoo.local

gnome-control-center and orca

2013-02-23 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, When I run gnome-control-center sound orca becomes sluggish. speech can't be interupted any more. Tab brings the focus to next object but speech announces it after finish of previous selected object. Orca works fine again after closing gcs. Can you confirm this? I've only tested gcs sound. Ma

capslock issue in orca Re: summary: a11y in wheezy

2013-02-10 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Well I've no idea why this doesn't work in wheezy. My other machine runs gentoo with orca-3.4.2 which doesn't have any problems with capslock when using laptop keyboard layout. Sorry I've no idea what's wrong here. Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@list

Re: summary: a11y in wheezy

2013-02-10 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On So, Feb 10, 2013 at 06:01:11 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Halim Sahin, le Sun 10 Feb 2013 17:40:16 +0100, a écrit : > > 2. orca: capslock issue: in laptop layout > > When using laptop keyboard layout caps can be used with orca but > > unfortunately the key goes

Re: summary: a11y in wheezy

2013-02-10 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel, About 1. issue: We were able to use gnome's mixer to bring up the volume. Afaik that applet controls only pulse not alsa :-(. BTW.: I am using gnome classic mode. Don't know if this makes a difference in the audiosettings. See attachment for alsa controls. about 2: I.ll ask in orca list

summary: a11y in wheezy

2013-02-10 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi folks, So I've installed wheezy from scratch and found following critical problems: 1. audiovolume in gnome Was muted or set to 0% No chance for me without sighted assistance 2. orca: capslock issue: in laptop layout When using laptop keyboard layout caps can be used with orca but unfortunately

Re: hints for pulseaudio in wheezy

2012-12-16 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Jason, On So, Dez 16, 2012 at 04:49:55 +1100, Jason White wrote: > Do you still need it if you're running PulseAudio 2.1-2 from experimental? Yes I see no difference. I've tested in in my wheezy vm. Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: hints for pulseaudio in wheezy

2012-12-16 Thread Halim Sahin
Hello, On So, Dez 16, 2012 at 04:41:46 +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: > Are you just using speechd-up with speakup, so that it can use > speech-dispatcher? Or should espeakup actually work as well? I use sbl at the textconsole. Espeakup should work as well if it uses alsa in espeak (not sure). I am

Re: hints for pulseaudio in wheezy

2012-12-16 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On So, Dez 16, 2012 at 04:49:55 +1100, Jason White wrote: > I'm trying to work out why PulseAudio is not blocking the audio device on my > laptop, even though I haven't changed the configuration from its defaults. Maybe your audio hardware can mix several audiostreams in hardware? Or they have

hints for pulseaudio in wheezy

2012-12-14 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Unfortunately next stable debian' graphical desktop will highly depend on pulseaudio. aptitude show gnome-core So here are some hints how to deal with this situation: - place the attached default.pa in ~/.pulse The changes are that pulseaudio can't block the audio device. - sudo rm /usr/

Re: speakup, speechd-up and orca

2012-12-13 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Do, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:33:09 +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: > To use alsa you should be able to just disable pulseaudio in rcconf and > change speech-dispatcher to use alsa in > /etc/speech-dispatcher/speech-dispatcher.conf Well, I am not aware that the frequently segfaults with alsa driver w

Re: a11y of debians default desktop (xfce)?

2012-08-09 Thread Halim Sahin
Hello, I've asked and hoped you are all aware that this desktop environment has many a11y related bugs. Many of these bugs were fixed in xfce 4.10 but that version will not be part of wheezy. One of the big problems is to start at-spi-registryd before first gtk application comes up. Any way thx fo

a11y of debians default desktop (xfce)?

2012-08-09 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, According to: http://www.muktware.com/4087/debian-wheezy-may-ship-xfce-default-desktop-environment gnome will may be not the default Desktop any more. What's the current a11y status of xfce in wheezy? Does it come with orca installed!!! Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-acces

wheezy installer: Problems with brailledisplay

2012-06-27 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Another problem I've experienced yesterday is: booting netinst using my pc (no VM) seems to detect my display but the language selection was not displayed. I can only read brltty 4.3 ... The Display is a Papenmeier el80s. Due to this Problem I.ll not able to install it currently on my machine.

iceweasel not accessible in current builds of wheezy?

2012-06-27 Thread Halim Sahin
Hello, Yesterday 2012.06.26 I installed a debian-wheezy (all updates) into a kvm virtual machine. Orca seems to work but iceweasel isn't accessible. Orca reads only window-title and say inaccessible! Is this problem allready known? Regards Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility

Re: [PATCH] enable libao support in speech-dispatcher for debian squeeze

2011-08-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Mi, Aug 03, 2011 at 12:51:56 +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Halim Sahin, le Wed 03 Aug 2011 05:42:08 +0200, a écrit : > > I wrote brailcom asked for a backport ppackage for squeeze. > > Brailcom is not the maintainer for the Debian speech-dispatcher package > either

Re: [PATCH] enable libao support in speech-dispatcher for debian squeeze

2011-08-02 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Using a stable distro should be possible without doing unusual things. Using a screenreader on plain tty without running a desktop with pulseaudio should be possible as well. The alsa bug is really old and was reported in 2009 upstream. http://lists.freebsoft.org/pipermail/speechd/2009q1/00160

Re: [PATCH] enable libao support in speech-dispatcher for debian squeeze

2011-08-01 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel, Is it possible to apply the provided patch to speechd which was shipped with squeeze? BR. halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20

Re: [PATCH] enable libao support in speech-dispatcher for debian squeeze

2011-08-01 Thread Halim Sahin
discused many times in the past without useful results. In my opinion squeeze's freeze time was really bad for a11y!!! Orca and Speech-dispatcher have both issues wich needs much fine tuning. Regards Halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim.sahin (at) t-online.de -

Re: [PATCH] enable libao support in speech-dispatcher for debian squeeze

2011-08-01 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Mo, Aug 01, 2011 at 12:20:12 +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > Is there a bug opened for this? It's the best way to ask to the > maintainer directly and allow us to do if he doesn't (except if he > doesn't do because he doesn't want for some reasons he probably would http://bugs.debian.

[PATCH] enable libao support in speech-dispatcher for debian squeeze

2011-07-31 Thread Halim Sahin
hi, I was able to rebuild speech-dispatcher with libao support in squeeze (patch attached). It would be great if one of you debian packagers can apply the patch to speech-dispatcher and push it to squeeze-backports. Thx. Regards halim --- ./speech-dispatcher-0.7/debian/control 2010-11-26 10:4

Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2011-07-30 Thread Halim Sahin
hi, If this is a orca from the x-desktop git-branch it works under gnome-2.x. In this case you don't need to update to at-spi2. BR. Halim PS.: orca-xdesktop runs well under Squeeze :-). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: can't install squeeze with el80s Braille-Display

2011-07-26 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel and Mario, Here is the log. HTH. Halim Jul 26 11:23:57 brltty[4062]: checking braille device: usb: Jul 26 11:23:57 brltty[4062]: checking for braille driver: pm Jul 26 11:23:57 brltty[4062]: initializing braille driver: pm -> usb: Jul 26 11:23:57 brltty[4062]: Probing Papenmeier display

Re: can't install squeeze with el80s Braille-Display

2011-07-25 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Mi, Jul 20, 2011 at 08:44:45 +0200, Mario Lang wrote: > Halim Sahin writes: > > > This week I tried to Install squeeze (amd64) using a Papenmeier el80s > > Brailledisplay. > > The netinst-cd boots but no braille output comes up :-(. > > Just to verify, can y

Re: Orca update

2011-07-22 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, I was able to install orca-2.32 from sources on debian squeeze. Well it has some problems with messenger gajim so I upgrade to orca from git which now runs well under squeeze. If you want to use a git version you need the orca-xdesktop branch. That version can be used with gnome2.x :-). It wou

Re: can't install squeeze with el80s Braille-Display

2011-07-20 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel The el80s displays it's name and firmware version. Nothing changes when the cd boots. BR. halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201

can't install squeeze with el80s Braille-Display

2011-07-20 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi ALL, This week I tried to Install squeeze (amd64) using a Papenmeier el80s Brailledisplay. The netinst-cd boots but no braille output comes up :-(. Today I did the following: 1. Started my machine with grml64 live-cd which has a working brltty (also amd64). 2. I used kvm and the debian squeeze

Re: Orca update

2011-07-20 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Mario @all, I have switched away from at-spi 1 on my gentoo machine few months ago because of issues with gsettings and gnome-panel from the gnome 2.32 version. The current status of at-spi2 and orca isn't so bad in my opinion. Most of the bugs are there due to caching in at-spi which were add

Re: feedback regarding a11y in squeeze

2011-07-07 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Do, Jul 07, 2011 at 02:55:10 +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > Debian works fine with alsa. yes, but speech-dispatcher doesn't :-(. I you switch to alsa in speechd, you have to restart speech-dispatcher about 10 times a day because of segfaults in speechd's alsa code. This happens with

feedback regarding a11y in squeeze

2011-07-06 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi List, I wanted to share my thoughts and problems regarding a11y in squeeze. Yesterday I've installed with a netinst iso and run into several problems. Installing with braille using brltty worked but brltty was not started correctly after restart because of used braillex Tiny which is not conne

Re: FYI: gnome-speech is deprecated

2011-07-06 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, There is currently no native driver in speechd for dectalk or swift. the soft dectalk and swift are only support through the generic driver of speechd. That driver has many limitations but it should talk :-). The latest source (unstable) from git has also a svox pico driver. The big question

Re: At-spi2

2011-06-04 Thread Halim Sahin
Take the debian packages which were uploaded to debian ?unstable?. This should give you an easy way to install it. -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim.sahin (at) t-online.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: How tu run at-spi-registryd in lxde?

2011-06-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Fr, Jun 03, 2011 at 08:01:50 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Have you also set the following environment variable for your > applications? > > export GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge Yes! The registry comes up _after_ some gtk-applications like lxpanel. This makes those unaccessible :-(. When I

Re: at-spi2

2011-06-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Yes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110603172928.GA9595@gentoo.local

How tu run at-spi-registryd in lxde?

2011-06-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Which is the prefered way to run the at-spi-registryd in lxde? My dirty hacks didn't work here :-(. The daemon was started but lx* apps were not accessible. restarting lxpanel helps but I don't want to restart core applications of the running desktop. I tried starting it in startlxde script an

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-03 Thread Halim Sahin
hi On Mi, Mär 02, 2011 at 10:54:19 -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. Have you filed these as bugs yet? Remember, a bug report is more useful > and likely to get > results than just posting to a mailing list. I didn't see them when I looked > at speech-dispatcher bugs earlier this morning. Maybe y

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-03 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Kenny, It would be nice to know which synth you are using with libao. it works stable here using ibmtts and espeak. Another question would be if the synthdriver crashs or the core server. Have you also installed pulseaudio? Which soundcard are you using.? BR. halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-03-02 Thread Halim Sahin
ards Halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim.sahin (at) t-online.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110302135923.GA2117@gentoo.local

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-02-21 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel and Mario, I can talk to Milan but he didn't respond to my mails during freeze period of squeeze. I have already reported many of the bugs regarding speechd-0.7 eg. missing libao support etc. @Samuel: I know of the newer version of speechd in experimental. I don't ask to get an easy wor

Re: a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-02-21 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Trev, I know the mentioned bug report. However I am not sure if my problem is the same here. Keyring is not accessible only for networkmanager and keyring. The messenger empathy uses keyring as well and does not freeze orca. I did more testing with the speechd package of squeeze. No libao was c

a11y: some issues in squeeze

2011-02-20 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, I want to report some issues on my squeeze installation. 1. The squeeze version of speech-dispatcher is really not usable. I wasn't able to get it talking in console and gnome. autospawn worked only for one user at the same time. Running it as systemservice had other problems etc. I have now u

Re: Bug#598133: gdm3: Should provide shortcuts and configuration snippets to enable accessibility

2010-10-21 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Samuel, I feel that it would be the best for us to have a11y turned on for all users but this would produce a lot of complains from users who don't need it. So my suggestion is to enable a11y for all people (only) when a11y was enabled during installation of the system. In this case no other peo

Re: a11y: pulseaudio muted in squeeze by default

2010-09-30 Thread Halim Sahin
hi, Ok I filed Bug#598628 for squeeze which describes the muted audio in pulse. If this can be fixed, speechd should deppend (not recomment) pulseaudio. If we don't want this then we should change audio output to something different than pulse. Libao support is also missing which would make things

Re: a11y: pulseaudio muted in squeeze by default

2010-09-30 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On Do, Sep 30, 2010 at 01:57:49 +0200, Hynek Hanke wrote: > On 30.9.2010 11:49, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > I think you mentioned that the libao output doesn't have such blocking > > issue, Hynek, can you confirm this? > > No, using ALSA directly and using ALSA through libao > is still using AL

a11y: pulseaudio muted in squeeze by default

2010-09-30 Thread Halim Sahin
sure that defauult audio output is set to alsa instead pulse for speechd. These points shows where we are by changing well working setups. I don't know if these point can be solved in squeeze but we should try it. BR. halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim.sahin (

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Kenny, can you play sounds using paplay? You can find some wav files in /usr/share/sounds Try to play these with paplay. In my kvm machine, pulseaudio output was muted. I have created a custom .asoundrc file and used alsamixe to unmute it. contents of the ~/.Asoundrc file is: pcm.pulse { ty

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Halim Sahin
chine all seems work. I have already tested with orca. Regards Halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim.sahin (at) t-online.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@l

Re: midnight commander

2010-09-29 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Well the screenreader is an application which get the information from your system and uses some kind of outputdevices like braille and speech for it's output. If you are using brltty that's your screenreader :-). I don't use it so I can't tell you if there is a way of handling such attribute c

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-29 Thread Halim Sahin
only gnomespeech and one ugly traceback for emacs speech server. Is speech-dispatcher listed together with gnomespeech on your system? BR. halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim.sahin (at) t-online.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ

Re: midnight commander

2010-09-29 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, Patching upstream apps for accessibility is is fine in many cases. However the described problem can only happen if your screenreader doesn't track attribute currsors. This should be fixed in the Screenreaders not in in mc. The sbl screenreader (which isn't in Debian) can handle attribute curso

Re: java-access-bridge no longer working?

2010-09-26 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi Mario and Samuel, Can you please test with these two lines in ~/.orbitrc? ORBIIOPIPv4=1 ORBLocalOnly=1 @Mario: you mentioned only the first line in your first mail in this thread :-). HTH. Halim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Re: Activation of Speech Dispatcher under squeeze

2010-09-26 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi, On So, Sep 26, 2010 at 07:12:15 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Halim Sahin, le Sun 26 Sep 2010 18:45:29 +0200, a écrit : > > > If you have multi seats, you do _not_ > > > want a system-wide process, just one per seat. > > > > Right and this part does only

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