On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:47 +0100, Laurent Vivier wrote:
>
[snip]
> > >
> > what ramdisk_size have you used
>
>
> 16384
>
> > 8192 was indicated for 2.6 - as Stephen R Marenka suggest in a past
> > mail-
>
>
> Same result with 8192.
>
yes , I know now ...
> What are kernel and ramdisk p
Le 12 nov. 06 à 16:46, Eugen Paiuc a écrit :On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 09:29 +0100, Laurent Vivier wrote: Hi Brian,I know the question was not for me...I tried to make a bootable debian testing CDROM thus with 2.6.17kernel.When I boot on my Q800 this kernel crashes when it tries to mountramdisk. what ra
On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 09:29 +0100, Laurent Vivier wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
>
> I know the question was not for me...
>
>
> I tried to make a bootable debian testing CDROM thus with 2.6.17
> kernel.
> When I boot on my Q800 this kernel crashes when it tries to mount
> ramdisk.
>
what ramdisk_size
On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 23:11 -0800, Brian Morris wrote:
> On 11/11/06, Eugen Paiuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 23:11 -0800, Brian Morris wrote:
> > > > On such system I hade install emile - from my bootable cdrom - and now
> > > > Debian can boot himself directily from his d
> > > how are you connecting when you use ethernet,
> > the system is stable only with ethx desabled !
>
> you mean you have nothing connected to it at all when
> you boot, if you want to test it you should have a link of
> some kind. starting with the simplest thing was my way,
Do you mean to say
On 11/11/06, Laurent Vivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Brian,
I know the question was not for me...
I tried to make a bootable debian testing CDROM thus with 2.6.17 kernel.
When I boot on my Q800 this kernel crashes when it tries to mount ramdisk.
actually i don't if anyone has use ramdis
On 11/11/06, Eugen Paiuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 23:11 -0800, Brian Morris wrote:
> > On such system I hade install emile - from my bootable cdrom - and now
> > Debian can boot himself directily from his disk - no more need of useing
> > of Penguin -.
>
> you are using em
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 23:11 -0800, Brian Morris wrote:
> > On such system I hade install emile - from my bootable cdrom - and now
> > Debian can boot himself directily from his disk - no more need of useing
> > of Penguin -.
>
> you are using emile then with 2.6 kernel ?
The system has 2.6.17-2-ma
> I tried to make a bootable debian testing CDROM thus with 2.6.17 kernel.
> When I boot on my Q800 this kernel crashes when it tries to mount
> ramdisk.
Does keyboard support work on the Q800 now?
Michael
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Hi Brian,I know the question was not for me...I tried to make a bootable debian testing CDROM thus with 2.6.17 kernel.When I boot on my Q800 this kernel crashes when it tries to mount ramdisk.Regards,LaurentLe 11 nov. 06 à 08:11, Brian Morris a écrit :On such system I hade install emile - from my b
On such system I hade install emile - from my bootable cdrom - and now
Debian can boot himself directily from his disk - no more need of useing
of Penguin -.
you are using emile then with 2.6 kernel ?
can you tell if the system is any more stable, or any issues improve ?
(be sure to update when
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:27:00AM +0100, Eugen Paiuc wrote:
> May I help ?
> Any comments?
I don't think we've ever refused help. The problem is that the most
helpful thing for 68k macs at the moment is fixing the kernel. Many
people don't have the time or skills to do much with that. If you
can
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 19:07 -0800, Brad Boyer wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 05:20:02PM +0100, Eugen Paiuc wrote:
> > If so , kernel > 2.6.17 has a different file structure ,
> > like /media/cdrom or so,
> > and a different way for accessing hwclock. Can someone confirm/infirm
> > that ?
> >
>
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 05:20:02PM +0100, Eugen Paiuc wrote:
> If so , kernel > 2.6.17 has a different file structure ,
> like /media/cdrom or so,
> and a different way for accessing hwclock. Can someone confirm/infirm
> that ?
>
> "Cannot acces the Hardware Clock via any known method. Use the -
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 15:49 +0100, Eugen Paiuc wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-10-28 at 09:15 +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:36:24PM +0300, Meelis Roos wrote:
> > > MR> I tried current 2.6.17-2-mac (2.6.17-9) on a Quadra 840AV. Mostly no
> > > MR> news - it seems to work w
On Sat, 2006-10-28 at 09:15 +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:36:24PM +0300, Meelis Roos wrote:
> > MR> I tried current 2.6.17-2-mac (2.6.17-9) on a Quadra 840AV. Mostly no
> > MR> news - it seems to work with the same problems as before (no RTC, no
> > MR> serial). E
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:36:24PM +0300, Meelis Roos wrote:
> MR> I tried current 2.6.17-2-mac (2.6.17-9) on a Quadra 840AV. Mostly no
> MR> news - it seems to work with the same problems as before (no RTC, no
> MR> serial). Even keyboard worked fine for simple login session.
>
> Not so good thou
> > Bummer, I don't have it anymore. And my 2.6.19-rc2 tree doesn't compile yet
> > for Atari.
> >
> > I'll see whether I can get it `working'[*] again...
> >
> > [*] "If it compiles, it is good, if it boots up it is perfect."
> > -- Linus Tor
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> > Geert: can you send me the kernel binary that only did a black screen for
> > you? I'd like to test it on the hardware itself...
>
> Bummer, I don't have it anymore. And my 2.6.19-rc2 tree doesn't comp
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> Geert: can you send me the kernel binary that only did a black screen for
> you? I'd like to test it on the hardware itself...
Bummer, I don't have it anymore. And my 2.6.19-rc2 tree doesn't compile yet
for Atari.
I'll see whether I can get it `workin
> > I'm not sure if it is still the case, but in the copy of the tree I
> > have handy, atari_scsi uses a local copy of NCR5380.c rather than
>
> Sure, but once upon a time, that local copy was derived from NCR5380.c and
> the business end of the logic didn't change.
>
> > the shared copy being use
Bill Allombert píše v Út 10. 10. 2006 v 20:52 +0200:
> > Do tell that to my Falcon/CT60. What did I buy the 512 MB RAM stick for?
> > :-)))
>
> True but does aranym allow more than 126Mb ?
yes. The limit (in direct addressing mode) is at about 3824 MB of
FastRAM, IIRC.
The Debian build for MMU v
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:04:14AM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> > > the more RAM you gives to Linux the more it will like you, won't it? ;-)
> >
> > Sure, but are not we limited to about 128Mb of RAM by the plateform ?
> > This is not much by current standard.
>
> Do tell that to my Falcon/CT60
> > 2.6.17 without ADB seems pretty solid to me except for the genrtc problems
> > (I do have two nice panic logs on that issue, but these rather look like
> > the genrtc module itself is borked, as gen_rtc_ioctl+0x12a trips over a
> > NULL PC...) and the time lagging back more than one day by now.
> > I have no idea what kind of machine this happened on. If it's not Sonic or
> > IIfx, locking or interrupt reentry seems most likely. The 5380 driver of
> > old mostly relies on interrupts being masked on entry, and the big kernel
> > lock held.
>
> I hadn't looked at it that closely. However, t
> > the more RAM you gives to Linux the more it will like you, won't it? ;-)
>
> Sure, but are not we limited to about 128Mb of RAM by the plateform ?
> This is not much by current standard.
Do tell that to my Falcon/CT60. What did I buy the 512 MB RAM stick for?
:-)))
> I have still not figured
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 08:25:00PM +0200, Petr Stehlik wrote:
> > plus, do i need to figure for how much ram
>
> the more RAM you gives to Linux the more it will like you, won't it? ;-)
Sure, but are not we limited to about 128Mb of RAM by the plateform ?
This is not much by current standard.
I
Brian Morris píše v So 07. 10. 2006 v 23:11 -0700:
> i did download aranym and emutos recently, i have to set it up.
you don't need emutos for running linux-m68k as ARAnyM got its own
integrated LILO.
> so, basic question, like can i try and boot aranym off this
> backup of my mac disk ? or do i
I am not sure if this is a side question/new thread or not, but...
i did download aranym and emutos recently, i have to set it up.
it was suggested as a way for me to have some help for compiling
and testing, but i have no familiarity at all with atari. (running
aranym on old world powermac with
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 09:45:43AM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> I have no idea what kind of machine this happened on. If it's not Sonic or
> IIfx, locking or interrupt reentry seems most likely. The 5380 driver of
> old mostly relies on interrupts being masked on entry, and the big kernel
> lock
On Sat, 7 Oct 2006, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> > > well we haven't had much testing here on 2.6 either, making this big jump.
> >
> > It's true 2.6 hasn't been solid on 68k. I know I struggle to find the
> > time to work on it.
>
> 2.6.17 without ADB seems pretty solid to me except for the genrtc pr
> > well we haven't had much testing here on 2.6 either, making this big jump.
>
> It's true 2.6 hasn't been solid on 68k. I know I struggle to find the
> time to work on it.
2.6.17 without ADB seems pretty solid to me except for the genrtc problems
(I do have two nice panic logs on that issue, bu
> Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this was a IIfx
> or a machine with Sonic ethernet. It's possible the 5380 core code has
> suffered from bitrot. It's mostly just used by 68k. The only x86 uses
> are some old cards that I really doubt get much testing on 2.6.
I have no ide
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 09:21:24PM -0700, Brian Morris wrote:
> well we haven't had much testing here on 2.6 either, making this big jump.
It's true 2.6 hasn't been solid on 68k. I know I struggle to find the
time to work on it.
> my machine, is lcIII/performa450, is supposed to be somewhat simil
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this was a IIfx
or a machine with Sonic ethernet. It's possible the 5380 core code has
suffered from bitrot. It's mostly just used by 68k. The only x86 uses
are some old cards that I really doubt get much testing on 2.6.
well we haven't ha
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 03:06:37PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> > i interpreted this exactly that way. the message comes from the scsci
> > controller. the controller is recieving commanf code 54 which besides
> > being an optional command (not part of the standard list) is not even
> > appropri
> > > i did try this, i found it was behaving rather unpredictably, once i
> > > got an error
> > > 54 not understood,
> >
> > ??? The above should go into the kernel options line of the booter, in
> > case I didn't make this clear before. "54 not understood" is nothing I
> > would expect the kerne
On 9/29/06, Michael Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You can try to disable disconnecting - mac5380=1 or mac5380=-1,1 might
> > help.
>
> i did try this, i found it was behaving rather unpredictably, once i
> got an error
> 54 not understood,
??? The above should go into the kernel option
> > You can try to disable disconnecting - mac5380=1 or mac5380=-1,1 might
> > help.
>
> i did try this, i found it was behaving rather unpredictably, once i
> got an error
> 54 not understood,
??? The above should go into the kernel options line of the booter, in
case I didn't make this clear be
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Subject: Re: linux-image-2.6-17-mac tries
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On 9/21/06, Michael Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> says it is SCSI 1 CCS, whi
MR> I tried current 2.6.17-2-mac (2.6.17-9) on a Quadra 840AV. Mostly no
MR> news - it seems to work with the same problems as before (no RTC, no
MR> serial). Even keyboard worked fine for simple login session.
Not so good though... as of todey, the netowkting is hosed. It only logs
NETDEV WATCHDO
> says it is SCSI 1 CCS, which stands for "Common Command Set", it is supposed
> to provide the non optional subset of scsi 2, (according to some
> reference book by FWB).
You can try to disable disconnecting - mac5380=1 or mac5380=-1,1 might
help.
Michael
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i hate to report this, but the option to disable PDMA actually was not enough
for the obsolete disk i had.
says it is SCSI 1 CCS, which stands for "Common Command Set", it is supposed
to provide the non optional subset of scsi 2, (according to some
reference book by FWB).
its pretty clear that's
> > Welcome to my world of m68k Macs. The ESP driver has no PDMA either,
> > right?
>
> I'm pretty sure that PDMA never worked on mac_esp, but it also wasn't
> as slow without it. The 5380 chip is pretty slow even compared to the
Well, it's definitely a lot slower than the 5380 with DMA.
> 53c94
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Meelis Roos wrote:
> I tried current 2.6.17-2-mac (2.6.17-9) on a Quadra 840AV. Mostly no
> news - it seems to work with the same problems as before (no RTC, no
> serial). Even keyboard worked fine for simple login session.
>
> I tried with no initrd at all, althoygh one was m
I tried current 2.6.17-2-mac (2.6.17-9) on a Quadra 840AV. Mostly no
news - it seems to work with the same problems as before (no RTC, no
serial). Even keyboard worked fine for simple login session.
I tried with no initrd at all, althoygh one was made on linux-image
package install.
I also got a
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 01:22:45PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> > It will kill the performance, but it looks like the driver has an
> > option to disable pdma. Try adding this to the kernel command line:
> >
> > mac5380=-1,-1,-1,-1,0
> >
> > Just get ready to wait for anything that touches scsi.
> > > "bus error in macscsi_pread"
> >
> > The kernels I've tried on my lc III did the same thing. macscsi was
> > working on my mac II a while back (IIRC around 2.6.10) but I think only
> > esp scsi works at present (that is, quadra, centris, 475, 575, 630
> > models).
>
> It will kill the perform
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 09:32:00AM +1000, Finn Thain wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Brian Morris wrote:
> > i have been trying the 2.6.17 kernel on my old lcIII/performa450
> > (68030 no FPU).
> ...
> > block_queue_max_hardware_segments:set to minimum 1
> > (repeated 10x -between around scsci device
> > is there a reason you are doing this, which seems to
> > complicate the hardware support ?
>
> Doing what, not using initrd? How does that complicate hardware support?
Apparently he means having many drivers as modules in the initrd makes it
easier to support all the various Mac models. Quite
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
> BTW patches, what is the status with the mac patches/config? The last
> test build I remember fixed a few problems on non quadra machines, but
> created problems on my quadra, so I did not include the changes in the
> offical debian package.
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 10:21:22AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
> > Using initrd complicated software support, AFAIK initrd does not work on
> > SCSI systems yet, if you have patches for that, we'd be happy to know. It
> > does not really matt
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
> Using initrd complicated software support, AFAIK initrd does not work on
> SCSI systems yet, if you have patches for that, we'd be happy to know. It
> does not really matter where the drivers come from, built into the kernel,
> loaded as modules o
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 07:30:39PM -0700, Brian Morris wrote:
> On 9/14/06, Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >The initrd is not used on m68k, so don't worry about copying it onto the
> >mac
> >OS side or giving it as a boot parameter. All necessary drivers are built
> >in, every
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Brian Morris wrote:
>
> i don't really care much for the lcIII but i had the way to install a
> system with that and then try to boot it from the old powerbook in disc
> mode.
The 2.2 kernel may allow you to use the lc to prepare a boot disk for the
powerbook. But then,
On 9/14/06, Christian T. Steigies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:10:01AM -0700, Brian Morris wrote:
> hi, all
>
> checking in -
>
> i have been trying the 2.6.17 kernel on my old lcIII/performa450
> (68030 no FPU).
>
> its a bit of a mish-mash, how i did.
>
> download linux
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Brian Morris wrote:
> hi, all
>
> checking in -
>
> i have been trying the 2.6.17 kernel on my old lcIII/performa450
> (68030 no FPU).
...
> block_queue_max_hardware_segments:set to minimum 1
> (repeated 10x -between around scsci device idents, followed by)
>
> "bus error
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 03:10:01AM -0700, Brian Morris wrote:
> hi, all
>
> checking in -
>
> i have been trying the 2.6.17 kernel on my old lcIII/performa450
> (68030 no FPU).
>
> its a bit of a mish-mash, how i did.
>
> download linux-image-2.6*.deb
>
> ran apt-get install module-init-tools
hi, all
checking in -
i have been trying the 2.6.17 kernel on my old lcIII/performa450
(68030 no FPU).
its a bit of a mish-mash, how i did.
download linux-image-2.6*.deb
ran apt-get install module-init-tools and initramfs-tools
(which brought in about 12 more packages to resolve dependencies)
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