On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 23:11 -0800, Brian Morris wrote: > On 11/11/06, Eugen Paiuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 23:11 -0800, Brian Morris wrote: > > > > On such system I hade install emile - from my bootable cdrom - and now > > > > Debian can boot himself directily from his disk - no more need of useing > > > > of Penguin -. > > > > > > you are using emile then with 2.6 kernel ? > > The system has 2.6.17-2-mac , and was installed directly - w/ floppies > > - > > from a modified cdrom debian-testing-m68k-binary1.iso, > > - style emile bootable mac cdrom :) - au passage je vous salut ! - > this means i take it, you boot installer via emile but you boot 2.2 kernel > for installer. then you install the testing cd, including the 2.6.17 kernel. > you say with floppies, confuses me. with the new cd booting that is still > sarge only. according to laurent the direct method not working yet. > Now is working. Please forget all above. I explain here again, like you say, the "laurent direct method" of installation. I use a latest debian-testing-m68k-binary1.iso , and packages from http://emile.sf.net/SNAPSHOT to make a new bootable cdrom .
I use that cdrom to boot directly into debian-installer . The mac machine has attached only the scsi hard disk needed for a new installation. that disk may be a generic - not a mac's specific one. I made two installations one with a generic scsi disk , and one with mac's specific scsi disk. Form now on I'm tolking of the installation on mac's specific scsi disk. > however you then installed emile so you are normally booting with emile > off the hard drive, or did you just use for installer ? Once the installation is finished, we can/may attache the -first -disk with macos and boot debian from penguin. First booting in the new debian system - with 2.6.17-2-mac - we have no us keymap - as fixed in installation -. Once fixed that, and /cdrom directory !!!, I installed emile. From that emile, with only debian disk attached , debian boot directly - not useing penguin . > > > can you tell if the system is any more stable, or any issues improve ? > > Watchdog time out is still present, cause of to hwclock access issue, > > > (be sure to update when the new build comes through) > > > can you try 2.6.18 from unstable ? > > >From yesterday the system has 2.6.18-2-mac -2.6.18_4 -, > > but the hwclock access issue is still present > >From now the system has -2.6.18_5 , but nothing is changed ... > > in my experience there are at least three levels of severity to > this hardware clock issue. in the least case it seems to > only offset the time zone and only in some contexts not all. > so for instance time stamp of file is OK. in the worse case > the whole system thinks it is 1969 and this disrupts timestamps > for update files as well as can cause crash from overflow in > trying to calculate time intervals. > so is here, even more it cut down the time stamp of machine to 1956 ... we can see so, times directories from 1956 , 1970, to current date ... > > > I never did get 17 to work at all > > > for me, because of disk driver problems (my quadra630 has ide and > > > my macII has an older scsi controller. > > > > > > how are you connecting when you use ethernet, > > the system is stable only with ethx desabled ! > > you mean you have nothing connected to it at all when > you boot, yes, sorry I don't have a transceiver AUI<-> rj45 > if you want to test you mean to test what ? > it you should have a link of > some kind. starting with the simplest thing was my way, > so the direct connection. which seemed at least semi stable > on my system. conversely if you are not using it and it > is not connected to anything live then it should be off. > > i don't know what stable means like that. is it a 0/1 isssue. > was reported by someone else here they could run for a little > while then crash. if it is borderline then some adjustments could > help, at least there is something to work with. if your system > really does not boot with eth on at all that is worse, and may > be a sign you have some other problems somewhere. I don't feel/think so. The machine is ok, but has no external connection. - > > makes me think though, since i have no useable keyboard with some times and imagination we can have one ... for example at first login to write "root" I must type "tab s s w" , nice ? > and must log in via ethernet. > what if i physically pull my > card. > > > do you have a local > > > hub or switch. have you tried directly connecting two linux boxes with > > > a cross-over cable (anybody), this forces a simpler half-duplex > > > connection. > > > (although on my newer machines full duplex is faster with these i have > > > not seen it, and it may be more stable. at least the one time i tried to > > > use the hub was the one time i got a crash after about 1 hour uptime) > > This system is standalone, for the moment, I use only cdrom for his > > needs. > > > > I tried on, a kernel compilation directly from > > linux-2.6_2.6.18-orig.tar.gz, > > but it is stoped in about 6 minutes with same errors. By the way, there > > is a > > basic kernel's config for (quadra840av) macs ? > > you have a config that comes with binary kernel package, in the boot > directory. Ah yes, that I'm used for .config in /usr/src/linux-... > i think that also you need a patch file or/and a kernal build > package. I'l see later... > i am just learning this myself so ... > regards eugen ps. I'm on the list , (no need cc-ed to me) thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
