Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] mama -hacklab in zagreb opens the door for us

2011-07-31 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 09:30:03PM +0200, Jana Pirat wrote: > mama - the hackerspace in zagreb will open the door for us tomorow > starting at noon - 12 pm till open end > > the address is: > preradiviceva 18 Typo - PreradOviceva. But, rather than beat around the bush: http://maps.google.com/map

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Busses to Sarajevo on Saturday

2011-07-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:22:37AM +0200, Guido Günther wrote: > Hi, > I hoped to catch the bus at 7:45 to Sarajevo on Saturday as listed on: > > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/TravelInfo#Bus_via_Sarajevo > > Looking at > > > http://www.autobusni-kolodvor.com/en/terminal.asp

Re: [Debconf-discuss] LAST CALL FOR DEBIAN BUS RENTAL (Was: price of bus tickets *back* to Zagreb)

2011-07-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 07:13:11AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 01:04:10AM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > > ons 2011-07-27 klockan 20:27 +0200 skrev Andreas Tille: > > > (please some local confirm that 4h is a reasonable timing). > > > > Well, the regularly scheduled Pepe

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please apply common sense!

2011-07-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:32:40PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Josip Rodin [2011.07.25.1224 +0200]: > > Wireless in the auditorium dies as soon as more than, say, 25% the room > > sits down. Putting up some more APs or even more small switches would be > > be

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please apply common sense!

2011-07-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:24:35PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:31:34AM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > *) don't watch the streams via wireless, esp if you are sitting in the very > > same room as the talk you are watching at is happe

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please apply common sense!

2011-07-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:31:34AM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > *) don't watch the streams via wireless, esp if you are sitting in the very > same room as the talk you are watching at is happening. That will make > wireless not work better in the auditoriums. Wireless in the audito

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb-Banja Luka bus after train

2011-07-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 07:33:54PM +0200, debcon...@moritz-naumann.de wrote: > On 19.07.2011 12:34 Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Geert Stappers dijo [Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 09:17:18PM +0200]: > >> Is that bus station "Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor" near RAILWAY station > >> "Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor"? > >> > >> That

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Important info for ppl using Zagreb->BL buses: where to buy tickets

2011-07-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 01:03:20PM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote: > However, *only one* is apparently selling tickets for outside Croatia > (at least this was the case on Mon 18th). This was number 11 for us > (but maybe this changes over time). It was also the 11th counter today, I just so happe

Re: [Debconf-discuss] V Pay cards at ATMs in Bosnia and Croatia

2011-07-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 01:31:07PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > This news was very worrying to me; as an American I have no cards with > chips, and while my card is an ATM card (not a credit or debit card) and > it's possible it might work in the ATM (if they support the Cirrus network > too, per

Re: [Debconf-discuss] V Pay cards at ATMs in Bosnia and Croatia

2011-07-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:49:11PM +0200, joy wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 01:31:07PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > This news was very worrying to me; as an American I have no cards with > > chips, and while my card is an ATM card (not a credit or debit card) and > > it's possible it might w

Re: [Debconf-discuss] V Pay cards at ATMs in Bosnia and Croatia

2011-07-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:31:58AM +0200, Torsten Werner wrote: > Let me summarize the discussion: > > - Visa and Mastercard work on ATM if they have a chip > - Maestro works > - V Pay doesn't work (right?) http://www.vpay.com/ says "Created by Visa Europe, V PAY is a new European debit card base

Re: [Debconf-discuss] V Pay cards at ATMs in Bosnia and Croatia

2011-07-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:47:19AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > Does Visa card literally mean Visa *only* or do you want to express just > > > the difference between credit card[1] and debit card[2]? Or in other > > > words: I have a Maestro *debit card* and a Mastercard[3] *credit card* > >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf dress code (was: Banski Dvor do's and don'ts)

2011-07-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:11:04PM +0200, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: > Op Mon 18 Jul 2011 om 08:15:52 +0200 schreef Velimir Iveljic: > > Some people just think if you wear shoes that you > > are more "integrated" in the society. > > Or: integrated in "the" society. Or: how about we all show a hin

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb-Banja Luka bus after train

2011-07-17 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 09:17:18PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > Is that bus station "Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor" near RAILWAY station > "Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor"? > > That question in other words: > Train travellers arriving at Railway station "Zagreb Glavni Kolodvor", > do they arrive near a bus sta

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Customs clearance at Zagreb, BL

2011-07-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 03:50:05PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > At [1] I read that customs require proof of ownership for technical > equipment. > > 1. is this Croatian or Bosnian customs? Are they the same? The latter. Nope. > 2. my netbook is company-owned and my laptop is old enough tha

Re: [Debconf-discuss] How long is the bus from Zagreb Airport to the main bus station?

2011-07-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:31:57AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 11:18 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:12:33AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > > > My only remaining question is whether we can pay for the return in BAM > > > b

Re: [Debconf-discuss] How long is the bus from Zagreb Airport to the main bus station?

2011-07-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:12:33AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > My only remaining question is whether we can pay for the return in BAM > but since I need to get some HRK anyway I may as well just get enough > for the worst case cost in both directions. Oh, right, but that seems to me like it's ans

Re: [Debconf-discuss] How long is the bus from Zagreb Airport to the main bus station?

2011-07-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 07:03:51PM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Josip mentioned in another thread that a taxi should make it in about > 20 minutes if there is no traffic jam. Oh, actually I counted the time of taking a walk to the ATMs, withdrawing money, walking back to the main exit and boa

Re: [Debconf-discuss] How long is the bus from Zagreb Airport to the main bus station?

2011-07-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 04:44:07PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > > Also, the bus from Zagreb to Banja Luka is quoted as being "108, 123, > > 140 HRK" (depending on time of day?). Is that a single journey or > > return? If it is a single then for the return can we also pay in BAM > > (how much?) or s

Re: [Debconf-discuss] mini cheatsheet page for Zagreb airport<->Zagreb central bus station?

2011-07-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 07:41:57AM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Obey Arthur Liu (art...@milliways.fr): > > > My flight is landing Sunday 24th at 11:45 and I'm hoping to take the > > 12:30 bus to Banja Luka. > > Assuming I have a EU passport, only carry-on luggage, credit card, > > dol

Re: [Debconf-discuss] mini cheatsheet page for Zagreb airport<->Zagreb central bus station?

2011-07-08 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 01:32:33PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > The google map link provided on > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Travel-Arriving looks like it > tells you how to walk to the registered office building of Autobusni > Kolodvor, > not the central bus station. > > http://www.akz.h

Re: [Debconf-discuss] 08:53 train from Zagreb to Banja Luka

2011-07-08 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:30:03PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that's a no, I've never seen conductors carry around > > anything more than very old-school black leather wallets. Frankly, > > them having mobile EFT POS devices sounds like sci-fi :) > > Hmm, in Germany they ha

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf11-localteam] Shuttles/Buses from Zagreb to Banja Luka cancelled

2011-07-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 10:33:48AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Adnan, or localteam, or whoever: Some of us will be arriving quite > late to Zagreb and will need to arrange for a night there. Is there > any hotel recommendations? Something cheap and not far from the bus > station? Barring an odd su

Re: [Debconf-discuss] 08:53 train from Zagreb to Banja Luka

2011-07-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 04:26:59PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > - Is it possible to board the Zagreb ??? Banja Luka train without > reservation, and > - is it possible to buy the tickets on the train, and if yes Croatian Railways passenger transport division sucks for not having their basic

Re: [Debconf-discuss] arrving at Banja Luka bus or train station

2011-07-05 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 04:32:59PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 01:46:45PM +0200, Torsten Werner wrote: > > I have a similar question about traveling from Zagreb to Banja Luka by > > bus. Do we need HRK (which can be bought abroad) or is it possible to > &

Re: [Debconf-discuss] arrving at Banja Luka bus or train station

2011-07-02 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:09:45AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 01:22:13AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > Best would be to add the locations of cash machines to OSM > > That idea came to my mind when reading your mail and I would like to add > that this could also be d

Re: [Debconf-discuss] arrving at Banja Luka bus or train station

2011-06-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 04:15:58PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > ... which provokes another question: Is the currency in Republic of > Croatia the same or at least valid in Bosnia and Herzegovina. HRK is not a valid currency in .ba, only BAM, and vice versa. Ditto for EUR. You can of course run in

Re: [Debconf-discuss] arrving at Banja Luka bus or train station

2011-06-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 01:46:45PM +0200, Torsten Werner wrote: > Am 16.06.2011 13:25, schrieb Daniel Glassey: > > If people arrive at Banja Luka bus station or train station is it > > possible to get currency there? Or is it possible to pay for the bus > > or taxi with Euros or other currency? >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] 3G prepaid cards for Banja Luka region

2011-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:28:10AM +0200, vedran wrote: > In Bosnia you generally have only three GSM operators : BTW it should be mentioned that these three telcos look like 'baby Bells' of various regions, and the local (former?) monopolist in Banja Luka is m:tel. So it would be good if someone

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf11-localteam] busses from budapest, sarajevo & zagreb to banja luka

2011-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 03:34:51PM +0200, Darjan Prtic wrote: > Zeleni venac is about 5-10min walking distance from bus station. If you > search on google maps "Zeleni venac, belgrade, serbia" and zoom in you > should see bus station. [...] > Zeleni venac is last bus stop, so you dont need to count

Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf11-localteam] busses from budapest, sarajevo & zagreb to banja luka

2011-05-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 02:30:38PM +0200, Darjan Prtic wrote: > I already posted (2-3months ago) all info regarding buses here on list. It > should be on wiki too. Belgrade has best bus connection with Banjaluka. > About 15 buses per day. The Belgrade main bus station has a web site, sadly no Engl

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:05:56AM -0500, Victor Martinez wrote: > Just a tought hit my mind just a minute ago, does Croatia requires > visa for tourists? In any case for Mexicans the exterior relations > secretary says no [1], but haven't search further... > > [1] http://www.sre.gob.mx/acreditada

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 01:01:18PM -0430, Miguel Landaeta wrote: > > From the same source about you have a bus from Banja Luka at 3:15 which > > arrives in Zagreb at 6:00, which IMO would not give you enough time to get > > to > > the airport in time. So, no again. > > However, for my departure o

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-17 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 04:27:02PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > http://debconf5.debconf.org/about/from_the_airport_to_the_center.html That sounds pretty intricate, but it doesn't actually say if you had to buy those tickets at a booth, a vending machine, with the driver, with the conductor... :) -

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-17 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 04:37:45PM +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: > This topic is getting hard to follow especially since I'm extremely > short of time ATM. > > @Ian and everybody else, > > I'll just tell you this, I'm in Zagreb now and today I talked to some > of leading people from HULK (Croatian L

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-16 Thread Josip Rodin
Please, don't send HTML e-mail... On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:58:39PM -0500, vedran wrote: > Hello Josip. > > We understand your concerns but from our perspective things doesn't look > so disorganized. Yes there is still a lot of missing points but at least > there are well defined general guidel

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:08:37PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: [...] > Ideally we would have had this two months ago. I really have no idea how the DebConf location selection process works, but surely someone could have noticed that these questions aren't easily answerable in the first place, before

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:17:49AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > BTW Good luck -- if you find a route that works, _please_ update the > > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Travel-Arriving > > page -- if on the other hand you lose the will to live (as I did) and > realise that the informatio

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 09:28:43AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 17:54 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Freitag, 13. Mai 2011, Ian Campbell wrote: > > > Is it expected that there will be shuttles leaving on the Friday? (I'd > > > be taking off at 1750) > > > > I

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 04:28:11PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > The piece of info that I'd still like is to know the bus options from > Okucani to Banja Luka. One has to buy the ticket specifying the > end-station so it'd be good to choose which way to go now. > > It is clearly fine to get from Zagreb t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 01:02:29AM +0200, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > Hi. > > On 05/05/2011 18:59, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > And once you are in the city center 20 min after, what are your options? :) > > > > Out of kidding, I am asking more about how safe is sleeping in the airport, > > sleeping

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 10:09:07PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:08:48 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 04:31:03PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > > > > - if you arrive/departure very late/early to Zagreb, what are

Re: [Debconf-discuss] France <-- [ other countries ] --> Banja Luka, by road

2011-05-05 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 02:19:55PM -0400, David Prévot wrote: > I will come to DebCamp by car, in order to arrive at Banja Luka around > July 17, but haven't made up my mind whether I go north (via Strasbourg, > Stuttgart, München) or south (via Lyon, Milano), and will come back > south on July 31.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-05 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:31:54PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:08:48PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 04:31:03PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > > > > - if you arrive/departure very late/early to Zagreb, what are your >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-05 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 04:31:03PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > > - if you arrive/departure very late/early to Zagreb, what are your > > > options? > > > > http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Travel-Arriving > > Thanks Josip! That link has a lot of the information I was requesting. BTW as

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb <--> Banja Luka

2011-05-05 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 03:44:13PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > Hi, > > The most recommended route to go to Banja Luka is flying to Zagreb then get > a bus or a train to Banja Luka. Is available somewhere the following > information? > > - buses and train schedules Zagreb <-> Banja Luka (and

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf return train booking via Zagreb and Munich

2011-05-02 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:16:21PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Oh, yes: via Zagreb because the replies from locals regarding road > transport to Okucani have not been particularly encouraging or > definite, whereas I'm sure there is indeed a train from BL to Zagreb. BTW, I saw this and went to che

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Trains from Debconf to Munich, Koeln, Paris, London, Cambridge

2011-04-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 01:50:08PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Dienstag, 19. April 2011, Josip Rodin wrote: > > I started adding a lot of these things to the wiki, but in the meantime > > noticed Adnan's promise of a shuttle. If that works out well enough, > > the

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Trains from Debconf to Munich, Koeln, Paris, London, Cambridge

2011-04-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 01:38:19PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Of course :) I just don't know the schedule yet. > > What an excuse!!! > You do not know the schedule of DebConf??? I don't know *my* schedule at the time, silly -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. ___

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Trains from Debconf to Munich, Koeln, Paris, London, Cambridge

2011-04-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:41:02PM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Josip Rodin (j...@entuzijast.net): > > > Notice that I'm being very graceful and am not acting as an agent of the > > Croatian Tourist Board here :D otherwise I would be encouraging people to >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Trains from Debconf to Munich, Koeln, Paris, London, Cambridge

2011-04-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:34:58PM +0530, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > Am Montag, den 18.04.2011, 19:27 +0200 schrieb Josip Rodin: > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 08:49:39PM +0530, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > > If Adnan said that they would organize their

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Trains from Debconf to Munich, Koeln, Paris, London, Cambridge

2011-04-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 07:39:32PM +0200, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Josip Rodin (j...@entuzijast.net): > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 07:27:08PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > If you fly into ZAG, then the intermediate cost is a bus ride to the main > > > bus s

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Trains from Debconf to Munich, Koeln, Paris, London, Cambridge

2011-04-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 07:27:08PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > If you fly into ZAG, then the intermediate cost is a bus ride to the main > bus station for 30 HRK (4.08 EUR). The web site of this operator is linked. Sorry, not. Can't find an English website, but I then just ran the Cr

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Trains from Debconf to Munich, Koeln, Paris, London, Cambridge

2011-04-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 08:49:39PM +0530, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > If Adnan said that they would organize their own shuttle (bus) from the > > Zagreb Airport to Banja Luka, I see no reason why that offer couldn't also > > include stops on the train station in Novska or Okucani. There may be > >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Trains from Debconf to Munich, Koeln, Paris, London, Cambridge

2011-04-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 07:22:35PM +0530, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 10.04.2011, 15:15 +0530 schrieb Joachim Breitner: > > But I agree that trains are nicer. I guess it depends on whether we can > > conveniently reach Banja Luka from Novska. Is someone from the local > > team reading