Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

James A. Donald writes: > > Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably > > Symbian. Chris Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this > determined and achieved? There is no official definit

Re: An attack on paypal

art, where the server, but not the client, is supposedly authenticated, does not do much good. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 9ZQw+0/xh1y28CkGulSQSVxewfy71qzXGHI8KJbN 4osBv1veq07jaMVh2zVetZVKqIRfQjiwJaKu99GqM

Re: An attack on paypal

es by default, it would make little difference to security. A wide variety of ways of getting big name certificates that one should not have, have been discovered. Attackers never showed much interest. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3Tdz

Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

ame user as last time. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG q1a1Whb1YeRws7qoDm6h15qfDstFHciUyP2I4fte 42lCFXf0IqXfh5Mz2mFtznxv6N40EuqpKvQJhLBgS

Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

-- James A. Donald: > > Certificate caching is not the problem that needs solving. > > The problem is all this spam attempting to fool people into > > logging in to fake BofA websites and fake e-gold websites, > > to steal their passwords or credit card numbers On

Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

e been key administrator for several companies, and have unfailingly found that I was the only person capable of doing these operations at that company. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG v6gZFuZoUgyGH55ME+JoilJSfw5LrufrbWWB454U 4FhiB65yyXwp1RgeJrLADfEYBoqz0YAch8fJ0Fisp

The real problem that https has conspicuously failed to fix

I keep posting "you cannot do this using https", and people keep = replying "yes you can" No you cannot, cause if you could, paypal, e-gold, e-bay, and the rest = would not be suffering from the problem illustrated by scam mails such = as the following (When you hit the submit button, guess what

Re: Quoting Anne Coulter is like...

against Fox, when Fox's reporting of the war turned out to be accurate, while MSNBC turned out to be wildly inaccurate. Watching MSNBC, one would have thought that the US was in for a Stalingrad style battle for Baghdad, at a time when Fox accurately reported that resistance had collapsed.

Re: All quiet on the western front

nagers have not changed, instead we have become those old fogies we revolted against. We did not realize that the port Huron statement turned us into young fogies, the doddering senile washed up old bolsheviks. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG zM6pUlk6ZJ3PNi5XRMFqgmuU2xj28x3t55x+IgFu 46aIWX5lC5VdjpVgTOT5JiMBx1VdJYnsZT/eVKQ2t

Re: Reporter writing article on proffr/mattd and threats

ederal prosecutors need killing. I received email from a reporter on the same topic, I presume the same reporter. I am inclined to suspect that the reporter is a fed. Professor rat is too deranged to be a fed. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR

Re: Dead Body Theatre

get hurt, and the defeated ruler would get a luxurious retirment on some faraway island. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG THNKT3gL3AwBfoRbW2WZnMNXz8Akom29NnINipEv 4MdS8qn6JSWbyiQCAy1KLdvD8QUhSGjYrcxLX8RNC

Re: The price of bread in Romania

-- X-Loop: openpgp.net From: James A. Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Stipulating arbitrary and unreasonable definitions breaks the > > connections, and people who employ definitions that lack sense > > cannot make sense. We are not free to give words any meaning

Re: The price of bread in Romania

s any meaning we choose. They are embedded in history and in the world. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG lwt02L2Z5IrD6EhQCg+E0TXRinhjvM3s906//m9c 4oGMs0HhyomLPE1W1SCWjmDRNw6aCtTCc+Jd+9roo

Re: U.S. Census question

ust thought "Census? Government junk mail." and trashed it with all the other solicitations. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG XhbYesFbuafepULwapRh9zSmEoJmnmwu2HgKnQfb 4w2Lm6Q1v+qMX2QM1IIDAPDUFcENiKUxQUu3wq/CZ

RE: How to avoid participating in census legally?

-- Whenever you do something legally, they just pass more laws. There is no point. Just do it illegally. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG T1TO6NF9MeRXAaSwhmxLQYttE79g1wweal5w4X4w 4O9y+1LWTPT/oKUG99WGUJpxE2MfVe79y5wvggzs8

Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

our local cop is there for. The FBI is there to maintain the power of the state and spy on whichever factions are politically incorrect this time around. The US got along fine without ANY equivalent of the FBI through most of its history. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZ

Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

o court. I think it most unlikely they would take it to court. Instead they would threaten me with personal harm. They have the legal authority and the power to tap lines. They do not have the authority or the power to make me tap lines for them. --digsig James A. Donald

France attempts to censor the world

se law, North Korean law, and probably Russian law. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG kVPGwEXsLHX8TdhtBmVdhmU9Lp3YFq4POTih1uZQ 4pB6frRrL5PavNacCgbmxVzqyb3L1gmptjsCKH5Pi

Re: FBI gets new hacking tools - any ideas?

At 08:33 PM 8/11/2000 -0400, Kerry L. Bonin wrote: >heh... I was wondering if/how I should qualify my own comments as well. I >have kids, and my personal opinion on kiddie porn is minimum penalty of >forced castration for creators of the images, if not death penalty. The US has an unusually broa

Re: Black Hoes screw Disney, trample free speech

At 11:15 AM 8/24/2000 -0400, Marcel Popescu wrote: >X-Loop: openpgp.net >From: "Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Idiot, you underscore Tim's point with your own racism. > >That's cool. Tim's racism is ok, anybody else's is wrong. [Plus, what's the >connection between "Tim May has a small dick" and

Re: Whipped Europeans

sometimes malicious, life forms in their garages, but we are not quite there yet. One can do trivila modifications in one's garage, but nothing like an orange that gets one high. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG Qd1/2C1xmBetaEbVGrzKGl3G6vKRbiN9Ii8IZd2o 4N9F0OZlzBXGkimMCBETEpwoD2cr/l3enah1aVGRz

export reg timewarp? (Re: RC4 source as a literate program)

code may be exported provided the government first gets to know all the weaknesses you are hiding from the public. However the government could decide tomorrow that what we thought the law is, is not actually the law, and we are all going to jail. --digsig James A. Donald 6

Re: COPPA

hem prove their identities and prove parental consent. I presume the next step will be to proclaim that usenet, IRC, etc are "loopholes", then that adult access is a loophole. (Make them prove that they are not a child. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvIT

Re: would it be so much to ask..

-- X-Loop: openpgp.net X-Loop: openpgp.net From: "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Supposedly Lincoln and Adam Smith were socialists. > > At 11:37 AM 9/22/2000 -0400, Marcel Popescu wrote: > They were. Lincoln was the worst US pr

Re: Rebirth of Guilds

u anything not made of soft rubber, you would soon figure out the difference. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG AHU6OaoABbrk+uzQS00UtfoouV8+7ljQR5aMkfUa 4tGttLqxcrdUZmd/cvYKXpNBlrcdcvwCTfruS20On

Re: Shunning, lesbians and liberty

-- James A. Donald: > > Famines in Africa are caused by communism and socialism, notably > > the famous Ethiopian famines that occurred under Mengistu, or by > > war, notably the famous Biafran famine. At 0233 PM 10/1/2000 -0500, Jim Choate wrote > Again, a simp

Shunning, lesbians and liberty

-- James A. Donald > > > > Famines in Africa are caused by communism and socialism, > > > > notably the famous Ethiopian famines that occurred under > > > > Mengistu, or by war, notably the famous Biafran famine. At 0233 PM 10/1/2000 -0500, Jim

Shunning, lesbians and liberty

ignificant twentieth century famine other than those caused by war or socialism? It is absurd to use categories that put normal dictatorships in the same category as totalitarian dictatorships. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR

Re: Niiice kitty....

or it, and if Churchill really did say it, Chomsky would have given us a source that was possible to verify. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG szxxNSRTF2hqGokTe4pEi1HN0v7ML+gJClXW1Vcu 4i2EZSRU++C5ilvvAmDcHPpIjAAdRwU9+ndWqhck2

Re: Niiice kitty....

-- At 08:10 PM 01/10/00 -0700, James A.. Donald wrote: >Chomsky is hardly a reliable source. He routinely fabricates or falsifies >quotes. I suggest you check his alleged sources. > >Chances are you will be unable to find his alleged source. In the unlikely >event th

Re: Niiice kitty.... (try 2)

e extremely difficult to check, and a great many of them, strange to report, turn out to be entirely impossible to check. You checked out half a dozen in a few minutes? How very remarkable! --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvI

Re: Niiice kitty....

Chomsky. They cannot say that what he said then about the Khmer Rouge was true, since after 1979 it became officially untrue. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG z53ZKZUN3B2Ev4r0h6bnHrb16EHfH+WcY8O6DvZC 4/CssZ9J/joHF24TL2z55D2+xp6uWfYgChGl4yeyb

Re: CDR: Shunning, lesbians and liberty

-- James A. Donald: > > You are putting ordinary dictatorships, like Pinochet's Chile or > > Park's Korea, in the same category as communist dictatorships, > > like Castro's Cuba or Mengistu's Ethiopia. That is ridiculous. 01:02 PM 10/3/2000 +0100

Re: Niiice kitty....

-- James A. Donald: > > It would take you [Justin Schwartz] years to check five hundred > > Chomsky citations. His citations are at best obscure and hard to > > find, at worst impossible to find. At 09:41 PM 10/5/2000 -0400, snit wrote: > look, digslug, Justin

Re: Niiice kitty....

-- James A. Donald: > > Almost every Chomsky citation that I have checked was at best somewhat misleading, and at worst a lie. At 03:31 PM 10/5/2000 -1000, Reese wrote: > We've already seen how you picked up an extra word in that massacre quote, > is it safe to assume

Re: Niiice kitty....

to just > > > STFU&STFD because your attempts to crawl out of the gutter where > > > you seem to happily luxuriate in the scum, grime and waste are > > > embarrassing. James A. Donald: > > Yet I seem to hit false citations, citations that are misleading >

Niiice kitty....

-- At 09:02 PM 05/10/00 -0700, James A.. Donald wrote: > > Big deal. Chomsky tells the reader that somewhere there is some > > underreported evidence that the reports of Khmer Rouge massacres were fake, Reese wrote: > WHERE? WHERE DOES HE SAY THIS? > > Exact

Re: Niiice kitty....

-- James A. Donald: > > In his 1977 Nation article Chomsky claimed: 08:25 PM 10/5/2000 -1000, Reese wrote: > *bt* > > 20 years or newer, remember? Within the last decade, or two? Remember? So are you now admitting that Chomsky used to continually

Government again enters Somalia

Some time ago, the president of Somalia returned from his exile to Mogadishu, the former capital of Somalia, which was going to be the new capital of Somalia. Lots of people gave lots of speeches about how popular and successful the new government was, and CNN gave a glowing account of how pl

Re: Niiice kitty....

-- At 03:39 PM 06/10/00 -1000, Reese wrote: James A.. Donald wrote: > > Distortions at Fourth Hand > > Noam Chomsky and Edward S. Herman > >The Nation, June 25, 1977 > > > >: : such journals as the Far Eastern Economic Review , the > &g

Re: Niiice kitty....

nconvenient facts and unwanted views in the same way that the totalitarian states that Chomsky so admired treated people who noticed inconvenient facts and people who held unwanted views. I see that you are of the same view. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3Td

Re: Niiice kitty....

Rouge. Just do a search for "worst atrocity of the modern era" in Deja News. And indeed, what they claim is true: Once Soviet policy changed, Chomsky was no longer a supporter of the Khmer Rouge. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITn

Re: Niiice kitty....

-- At 08:36 PM 10/7/2000 -0700, James A.. Donald wrote: Chomsky before 1979: (falsely purporting to be quoting "highly qualified specialists") : : executions have numbered at most in the thousands; that : : these were localized in areas of limited Khmer Rouge : : inf

Re: Niiice kitty....

en let us once again go over his words. Commit yourself to one excuse or the other excuse. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 5fUvqkQv7jG0Klmp29kCBYrlIHn5dCXZ5GTGduqj 4kTN3SFbxObY8otmB/uYKSwW/pI2lprFHgj9rKSc6

Re: Niiice kitty....

-- At 12:19 AM 08/10/00 -0400, James A.. Donald wrote: > > So are you claiming that this alleged evidence seemingly cited by > > Chomsky exists, or are you denying that Chomsky claimed the > > existence of this evidence? 06:51 PM 10/7/2000 -1000, Reese wrote: > Le

Re: How the Feds will try to ban strong anonymity

s. To create a police state on the internet, all that is necessary is to ensure a one to one correspondence between an internet address, and a human face that can be beaten to pulp. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG pD3OD3dQv

Re: Think cash

n, and computer walking, and computers doing well anything that a spider can do well, are a mixture of hype and fraud. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 7N6aeuJRFBnYna+aAOMenoR8XGxuEYD+S3obIVsh 4zJ7VgEMhSpp8c7Y3l1tjow+Rtk1ECNzEcq82V1i3

Re: judges needing killing...

on of the government, perhaps by supplying it with equipment, or by allowing it to confiscate the land which it polluted, or by having the pollution spread upon their property, are guilty. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 9qO4q

Re: Zero Knowledge changes business model (press release)

but did not get my nyms. This seems to have been a widespread experience. ZKS denied any problem. I concluded that if I could not trust them, I could not trust their proprietary cryptography, and forgot about it. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3

Re: US report urges Arafat to use torture for peace

> without due process of law and "interrogation methods that border on > psychological and/or physical torture." This reminds me of that scene in "Casablanca" where the chief of police piously announces "I am shocked" --digsig James A. Donal

The election debacle.

would have argued that the offending judge lacked jurisdiction to find his own bum also. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG WbV66f5Xmh8YI+XWY9eJshlRVy0Lc8wPGvz4AMmZ 4ZejlQ7TMtBHNHjcv1nTObc+asCmBt4ydmTx/gpec

Re: Godwin's Law and Common Reference Points

Godwin's law is invoked, it is an inappropriate response to an appropriate invocation of the lessons of the twentieth century. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG RCoqtjZH3uUscZtSOD+ypJ18lnwRKVrrCiCJ4BK 4oaDXQkf2S0RFEwGNPUi8f/2ccMiadE+oSllluHeY

Re: _Godwin_ on Godwin

similar twentieth century crimes -- the armenians, the kulaks, and so on and so forth. The evil of the nazis is not unique. Over and over again the same causes led to the same consequences, and the only way we can stop it from happening again and again is to pay attention. --digsig

Deniable data storage

extract a random length of gibberish, a valid key would extract a stream of valid data, and revealing one secret key to the adversary would not give the adversary any evidene that more secrety keys were present or absent. Any good known algorithms for this? --digsig James A

Deniable data storage

I want to store information deniably. So there would be a fixed sized block of data, say one megabyte, increasing by multiples of 8 as needed. This would contain various items of information that one could extract by supplyin a secret, symmetric, key. A random key would extract a block of gi

Re: Decline of the Cypherpunks list...Part 19

same demo, he would see a crowd of old farts, and you would see a crowd of young punks with nose rings. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG /JGPIvI11TGnJc6gE6/w/g6k0rZwAOZZoka0PiIJ 4DnWpX4iPZy18KuWpdzmsERHsIS6O34J+itCHGsE2

Re: Type III Anonymous message

On 7 Dec 2003 at 22:25, Eugen Leitl wrote: > I'm seeing similiar trends across > virtually all my mailing lists, so I presume it's the medium itself > that it's in decline. Spam. people are continually abandoning old addresses. Of course it does not help that the cypherpunks list itself under p

Re: Decline of the Cypherpunks list...Part 19

-- Tim May: > >> And, as many have noted, very few of the "kids" today are > >> libertarians (either small L or large L). James A. Donald: > > When you were a teenager, everyone thought that Ho Chi Minh > > was the greatest, had a picture of Che Gue

Re: Decline of the Cypherpunks list...Part 19

ople. Those using this rhetoric believe they know better than other people what is good for those other people, and intend to whack those other people for their own good. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG h0PDSIpmiXP6g+EXs3h

Re: Got.net and its narcing out of its customers

On 8 Dec 2003 at 13:17, Tim May wrote: > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF > -8&safe=off&threadm=220820032357238678%25timcmay%40removethis.got.net& > rn um=1&prev=/ > groups%3Fq%3Dfrederickson%2Bgot%2Btim%26hl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26ie%3D > UT F-8%26oe%3DUTF > -8%26sa

Re: (No Subject)

physical gold, which actually is anonymous, and provides a physical mix, since one gold atom looks very like another. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG gFHr0U97wM1IeLX9SRCadMi2qoG+8FaaFXSdMlnB 41xSX7dI0Au/V2pVkuLX2tYRDvsRZ76g3jqqc7NYe

Re: Speaking of Reason

t is pro capitalist, and pro progress. As living standards rise, we are going to spend more on intangibles and natural beauty, and the interesting question is how to do this in a capitalist, hi-tech, framework. --digsig James A. Donald 6

alt.anonymous.messages

his recipient sets his newsagent to always download all new messages) --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG zMY49IWQvar+nBxNmFDbRihngyDWi30UIYQY9NAh 4rVDPJdqGIjPUeycOPjbn3AbW2+7fZ0HFzy2xQEeX

Re: ALTA/DMT privacy [was: Re: (No Subject)]

references in the system to > that account are also deleted from all ALTA/DMT dbs. Trust us. Would we lie to you? --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 9P+3EaOU5V9RRtuNGi0n0/2XlM5S3RxLGzOoIMh7 4Imw9MND4w22DnR2n6tOp834DoLrSedKMdIsQGxwn

Re: ALTA/DMT privacy

th power. Every atom of gold is identical to every other atom of gold. There is only one stable isotope. E-gold does not provide untraceability -- but gold does. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG sxD6FejwJO/

Re: The silliness of those who argue that gold is the key to untraceability

ne stable isotope of gold" is embematic of the > delusions which the gold bugs and offshore platform silly > people have. I can rather easily open a pecunix account with a hotmail address. Opening a swiss bank account is considerably harder. --digsig

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

im. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG DijbC0CdsDlDq+JMzf6Soaoy/uQpAPvQzIqw+vZV 4V4l1cML3B68fAUZdXEQULOypQU+iOODMqAEAhN3z

U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

really must be when you discount all that capitalist propaganda." --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG Lh9C/c3J2U0bybWlK/P0f5hnnZT1z+2QEe1K9Ev2 4cVVWOLkCVsvYQG/u75vRB5xVrL2GjBeaEl+j6x07

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

eful competition is a greater threat to the rulers, for example "harmful tax competition". One of the major goals of the EU is to restrain 'harmful tax competition". Similarly one of the major goals of the WTO is to prevent what cypherpunks call regulatory arbitrage.

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

Truly great. > > In doing so you have manifested what has been written here > > about "gasing into the abyss" and so on. On 17 Dec 2003 at 8:36, Jim Dixon wrote: > I have gazed into the abyss and seen a man having his teeth checked > and getting a haircut. :-| > > -- > Jim Dixon [EM

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

enience against a common enemy, an alliance that both sides know will end in war or near war fairly soon. This however seldom leads good men to mistake evil men for 'good guys" --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG x2lNKl

The killer app for encryption

from clear that this encryption will enable all the potential uses of encryption that cypherpunks foresaw. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 5fFQJC040+P9QrkF8BhWR4nUBWhNmexs1EH0ej6o 4a8EuzGFht8mQloFG16q2B76njPoWM/jVAzYAxKoQ

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

d slavery complaining about those episodes. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 5ibjDrK757xI4qlX/NW0eJQnWdI267xZu+oMuBEO 4esmiD8ZBiOaoKK48vXdGpqBQjC43P2L5EtUa9k+i

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

r does it lead you to believe they are actively supporting him. > It is astonishing that it was okay for Saddam to be as evil > as be and we (as a society) turned a blind eye to it Yet you show no similar astonishment concerning the evil of Stalin. James A. Donald: > > Evil men, by

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

ut its passing are those who enthusiastically hailed all the Soviet violations of it as wars of national liberation. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG MG21u2rXbbd8Gv6a0KI33gOfB0dq3Rj0+8QLf9Zu 475GB3UNm+fRK0Tmju1skiWzb5gB5QGgnIdyidhHM

U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

-- On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, James A. Donald wrote: > > Different rules apply in war. J.A. Terranson wrote: > One leettllleee problem: we are not really at war. Sure looks like war to me. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQd

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

Americans deserved 9/11 and have no right to whine about it. Nations are not morally entitled to any rights. They have rights merely by habit and convention, a convention formalized in the peace of Westphalia, and now at long last fading. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeG

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

-- J.A. Terranson: > > > One leettllleee problem: we are not really at war. James A. Donald: > > Sure looks like war to me. J.A. Terranson: > I guess that's why the congresscritters told Shrub to GFY > when he tried to get a declaration? After 9/11 Congress

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

the Hague is apt to convict the innocent and acquit the guilty in the face of all evidence, illustrating in more extreme form the problems that occur with the police powers of the Westphalian state. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

xactly what the nazi war criminals got. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 1Lc+zlzr6cys1/DeraqXfhpuVH9FvHHd5rtUuv/E 4gp4fEG6nAev5a7thtLVe+M7bqpvkok78SJyY0f1N

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

s our puppet, he was the good guy, and no > matter how many he murdered, he was a benevolent leader. Saddam was no more "our puppet" than Stalin or Pol Pot was, nor was he ever deemed a good guy, any more than they were. --digsig James A. D

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

-- James A. Donald: > > Every citation Chomsky gives is fraudulent. > > > > I recently posted a paragraph by paragraph examination of > > one of his more notorious articles. Every single citation > > he gave was false in some central and crucial way. > >

Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)

s. Similarly the USG has not said that if China invades Taiwan, the USG will intervene, but it would be as big a lie to claim that China has been given a green light to invade Taiwan, as it is for Ramsey to claim that Iraq was given a green light to invade Kuwait. --digsig James A. Donald

Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)

that diplomats say when what they actually mean is "We are going to cut off your head and nail it to a lamp post with a nine inch nail") --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG UGe4zfpi4sWf5MssuvgX1tOdNtw539Km+25pzq7s 4mkjwbGPuDy/LJkiMtzHD8na/Fnn2ocm+LNkAhuX0

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

ment, I expect that they were. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG LMgH3KrVc01cxKGLDz79xYZZW/NEDRXgsNqjdHep 4N3mLSiFXrfdllK8ARj0Y2Aj3QjP3ZT0efID0sD5Z

Re: Release Saddam now

ce in the Serbian war crimes trials, the Hague would acquit Saddam and convict Carter. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG Ga9C18O27qHMYLen4874q63qGOwoEIBltLGk1rpk 48Vn4yKSHVY79B6oGsC+HdHn879C2BBXjKu204wKw

Re: U.S. in violation of Geneva convention?

-- James A. Donald: > > Saddam will be judged by his victims, who have jurisdiction > > enough for me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > It is tempting to say that the victims have some kind of > natural right to see justice done against this tyrant. The > problem is that the there i

Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)

omats, like mafia bosses, make their threats by implication, not out loud. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG X+lkzU5AyyMRGqhdagmp2Shx9qHYuvKaYeWi1JiN 4lf43mqw0rS9IzY4mvIWScRSGNQ6NzcX0Kx+ZzpT+

Re: "the Kuwait issue is not associated with America"

On 20 Dec 2003 at 12:40, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > Thanks Steve, I don't think I have heard this before. I googled on the > text you quoted and found this url > > http://wais.stanford.edu/Iraq/iraq_andambassaprilglaspie22303.html > > and a few more > > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE

Re: Sunny Guantanamo (Re: Speaking of the Geneva convention)

or "I cannot state plainly how the issue appears to us because that would constitute making threats." And when she says "I ask not in the spirit of confrontation" that means "If the answer is unacceptable, there may well be a confrontation' --digsig

Re: "the Kuwait issue is not associated with America"

or little Saddam was victimized is an obviously stupid argument, and anyone making it an obviously evil person. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 6WGBV4YgV3ERm+ANnc1R5PyBtJd1N+U/T6s1mBLK 4HFuMQjPp6w0HFllkQpbmhad5CnhaAWYf7P9QsMvn

I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

the guys in the two towers had it coming, and poor Saddam is a victim, puts himself in the corner with the people who are stupid, evil, and losers. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG XwnNnDWaFm4T8flPHGpKzyaV4jg8/RzK3pUzhOzQ 4+xdZmD79Z+1bt+2a7gG1vL9K6V53m4xxeoRxCt4p

I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

-- James A. Donald > > I am anti war. You lot are pro Saddam. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That is quite a presumption there. "If you're not with US, > you're with the terrorists", If you call for the release of Saddam, or you justify 9/11, as the "

Re: I am anti war. You lot support Saddam

-- James A. Donald: > > And now the guys on this list are weeping big salt tears > > about poor victimized Saddam. Jamie Lawrence: > I don't care if he got a shave. I do care that the US fails > to adhere to international law. The US army would be wholly in compli

Re: I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

-- James A. Donald: > > If you call for the release of Saddam, or you justify 9/11, > > as the "anti-war" posters in this thread have been > > arguing, then indeed you are with the terrorists. Bill Stewart > Saddam's not particularly related to th

Re: I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

my rally. If any of your speakers really thought the NLF was something other than a KGB sock puppet, they would have had posters of the supposed NLF leader on their wall. Instead, not one of these supposed supporters of the NLF blinked when the most of the NLF vanished in the 1975 pur

Re: I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

. For this to be true, most of the coalition would be nations that agreed to UN becoming a world government. Somehow I doubt it. The ICC has no legitimacy. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG MVU3HFcf4zBO8SGAeAoleCnLt+ySdaD9K5ITh

Re: I am anti war. You lot support Saddam

-- James A. Donald > > > > Anyone who wants to argue that the guys in the two > > > > towers had it coming, and poor Saddam is a victim, puts > > > > himself in the corner with the people who are stupid, > > > > evil, and losers. Jamie Lawr

Re: I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

-- James A. Donald: > > So in your version of reality, the Iraqi people were > > happily enjoying socialism, loving the socialism this > > benevolent dictator Kassem provided to them and then this > > evil capitalistic CIA agent, Saddam, took it all away from > >

Re: I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

y supervised access, whereas the US army has been completely relaxed about letting anyone contact those involved in the story. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG mnNGnEuQuzpGASrruKWsKhQzuCnYUai/jQiqorMy 4qGaSHHsj4ncE7dJt0UcQcaG4v8WQFbg0mZElu6db

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