RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-10 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew DeFaria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I'm not saying that if one wants /etc/passwd updated one sure run > Cygwin's setup.exe. What I'm saying is that Cygwin's setup.exe should > not break the /etc/passwd in place already. My experiences says that

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-07 Thread Andreas Ames
Hi, Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I guess the best solution is to present the user with several options > > 1) Create /etc/passwd using local accounts? > > 2) Create /etc/passwd using domain accounts? > > 3) Create /etc/passwd using local and domain accounts? > > 4) Don't

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-07 Thread Michael A Chase
- Original Message - From: "Bernard Dautrevaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Michael A Chase'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andrew DeFaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "cygwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 07,

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-07 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Michael A Chase [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:46 PM > To: Andrew DeFaria; cygwin > Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > > > - Original Message - > From: "Andrew DeFaria&q

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Michael A Chase
- Original Message - From: "Robert Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael A Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andrew DeFaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "cygwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 19:09 Subject:

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Robert Collins
=== - Original Message - From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:08 PM Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:35:07PM -0800, Michael A Chase wrote: > >It wouldn't

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:35:07PM -0800, Michael A Chase wrote: >It wouldn't be very hard to add /etc/passwd.lnk and /etc/group.lnk to >the test in desktop.cc. Would you accept it? I'm a bit hesitant >because there are lots of other files and directories that might also >be affected. Personall

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Robert Collins
=== - Original Message - From: "Michael A Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Robert, >It wouldn't be very hard to add /etc/passwd.lnk and /etc/group.lnk to the > test in desktop.cc. Would you accept it? I'm a bit hesitant because there > are lots of other files and directories that might

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Michael A Chase
- Original Message - From: "Andrew DeFaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael A Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 16:29 Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > Michael A Chase wrote: > > > The test has been in the code for

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Michael A Chase
- Original Message - From: "Andrew DeFaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: gmane.os.cygwin To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 13:46 Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > Michael A Chase wrote: > > > I recently messed with the functio

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Robert Collins
-- === "Andrew DeFaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Rick Rankin wrote: > > > Depends on how you define "harmless". We have a *huge* domain, and "mkpasswd > > -d" can take a very long time (20 - 30 minutes) to complete, so I definitely > > w

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Robert Collins
- Original Message - From: "Bernard Dautrevaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Depends on how you define "harmless". We have a *huge* > > domain, and "mkpasswd > > -d" can take a very long time (20 - 30 minutes) to complete, > > so I definitely > > wouldn't want to run blindly run it with the -d

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Heribert Dahms
eribert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > -Original Message- > From: Michael A Chase [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 20:26 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Faylor&

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Michael A Chase wrote: > I recently messed with the function that does that, so I can confirm that it > only runs mkpasswd and mkgroup if the corresponding files don't exist. When did this come about? Because every time I reinstall Cygwin it does indeed run mkpasswd -l. I wonder, since our /etc

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: > The code in setup.exe seems to indicate that mkpasswd and mkgroup will > not be run if the corresponding files already exist. I was asking if > people were actually seeing this happen after a first-time install. I see mkpass -l run each and every time Cygwin is inst

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:25:30AM -0800, Michael A Chase wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 09:51 >Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > >

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Rick Rankin
I've never seen setup run mkpasswd or mkgroup when /etc/passwd or /etc/group exist, so I believe you're right, Chris, in saying that this is just a first time setup issue. Personally, I just didn't want to see a first time user around here get stuck with a 30 minute install process because setup b

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Michael A Chase
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:25 Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:06:10AM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >Christopher Faylor

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Michael A Chase
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 09:51 Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:31:04PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: > >Oh, I didn't

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:06:10AM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >>On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:31:04PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: >>>Oh, I didn't think at that ;-( Obviously a way to avoid running "mkpasswd >>>-d" in such a case would be useful. >> >>This is just an

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:31:04PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: > >>Oh, I didn't think at that ;-( Obviously a way to avoid running "mkpasswd >>-d" in such a case would be useful. >> > > This is just an issue for first time installations, right? AFAICT, > /etc/

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Rick Rankin wrote: > Depends on how you define "harmless". We have a *huge* domain, and "mkpasswd > -d" can take a very long time (20 - 30 minutes) to complete, so I definitely > wouldn't want to run blindly run it with the -d option here. If it were > implemented, it should be an option, at leas

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:52:20AM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote: >Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>It's not harmless. mkpasswd -d will result in an error message on >>stand alone systems. > >Seems to me that mkpasswd could be made smart enough to try -d and if >an error is returned issue a warning that i

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Andrew DeFaria
Corinna Vinschen wrote: > It's not harmless. mkpasswd -d will result in an error message on > stand alone systems. Seems to me that mkpasswd could be made smart enough to try -d and if an error is returned issue a warning that it's switching to -l mode. > It's actually the other way around

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 12:29 PM 3/6/2002, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:17:02PM -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote: > >At 12:02 PM 3/6/2002, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >>On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Chris Faylor wrote: > >> > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Corin

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:17:02PM -0500, Larry Hall (RFK > Partners, Inc

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:31:04PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: >

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 06:31:04PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: >Oh, I didn't think at that ;-( Obviously a way to avoid running "mkpasswd >-d" in such a case would be useful. This is just an issue for first time installations, right? AFAICT, /etc/passwd should not be produced if there is a

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Rick Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:22 PM > To: Bernard Dautrevaux; 'Robert Collins'; Stephano Mariani; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Suggestion for setup > > > > --- Bern

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:17:02PM -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote: >At 12:02 PM 3/6/2002, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Chris Faylor wrote: >> > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> > >On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Chris Faylor wrote: > > On Wed, Ma

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 12:02 PM 3/6/2002, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Chris Faylor wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > >On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:05PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: > > >> As this is quite a simple patch, I proc

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Chris Faylor wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:05PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: > >> As this is quite a simple patch, I proceed and here it is, for mkgroup.c and > >> mkpasswd.c

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:32:24PM +0100, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:05PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: >> As this is quite a simple patch, I proceed and here it is, for mkgroup.c and >> mkpasswd.c: > >I have two problems with this patch: > >- No ChangeLog entry. >-

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Rick Rankin
--- Bernard Dautrevaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > On the same ground, it would be nice if, when creating /etc/passwd and > /etc/group, setup.exe pass the "-d" flag to mkpasswd/mkgroup; otherwise, > ntsec is almost unusable for the (vast majority of) NT/2k/XP use

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:01:05PM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: > As this is quite a simple patch, I proceed and here it is, for mkgroup.c and > mkpasswd.c: I have two problems with this patch: - No ChangeLog entry. - Do we have a signed copyright assignment from you? Corinna -- Corinna V

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Bernard Dautrevaux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:32 PM > To: 'Corinna Vinschen' > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Suggestion for setup > > > > -Original Message- &

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: > > O

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:01:22AM +0100, Bernard Dautrevaux wrote: > On the same ground, it would be nice if, when creating /etc/passwd and > /etc/group, setup.exe pass the "-d" flag to mkpasswd/mkgroup; otherwise, > ntsec is almost unusable for the (vast majority of) NT/2k/XP users that > happen

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Robert Collins
=== - Original Message - From: "Bernard Dautrevaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Nice to hear, so the patch could be simply to add the proper "-d" arg in the > mkpasswd/mkgroup call in the yet-to-be-written install-script; sorry, but I > can't do this either :-) :) :) Lol! Yes, well if I writ

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:53 AM > To: Bernard Dautrevaux; Stephano Mariani; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Suggestion for setup > > > > > Sorry for not providing a

Re: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Robert Collins
=== - Original Message - From: "Bernard Dautrevaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On the same ground, it would be nice if, when creating /etc/passwd and > /etc/group, setup.exe pass the "-d" flag to mkpasswd/mkgroup; otherwise, > ntsec is almost unusable for the (vast majority of) NT/2k/XP users

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-06 Thread Bernard Dautrevaux
> -Original Message- > From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:44 PM > To: Stephano Mariani; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Suggestion for setup > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: St

RE: Suggestion for setup

2002-03-05 Thread Robert Collins
> -Original Message- > From: Stephano Mariani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:29 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Suggestion for setup > > > Perhaps this is already on the wish list, but it would be > useful if setup could set the CYGWIN variable u