On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 11:51 -0700, Christoph Birk wrote:
> > The current result is 52.5 percent for white. Of course if the
> > programs were playing perfectly it should be zero percent for white
> > if 9 is the correct komi.
>
> Why are you not using komi=9 ?
Because Lazarus can't handle inte
The current result is 52.5 percent for white. Of course if the
programs were playing perfectly it should be zero percent for white
if 9 is the correct komi.
Why are you not using komi=9 ?
Christoph
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As I mentioned before, I'm running Lazarus at 7x7 8.5 komi. I now
have 139 games in and white is only winning by a small margin. The
game are being played at about 4 minutes per game (2 minutes per
player.)
The current result is 52.5 percent for white. Of course if the
programs were playin
Attached are two test games I played against Valkyria. Valkyria used 1 minute
per move. The komi was 9.5 and with both playing white once. White won both
games but when Valkyria played white it could have won easily with 6.5 instead
of 0.5. So judging from these two games it played better than me.
Quoting Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
How clear is it that the correct Komi is 9 and not another value? Has
it been proved, or is just strongly believed? And how strongly?
It is very clear in my opinion. This citation comes from sgf file that
has been
circulating for some time
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The stat's may change significantly even if I
give white the best 2nd move.
- Don
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Dailey
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:49 AM
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Hello all,
first, I thank you all for the very interesting comments you made. I answer
quickly the various comments in that email to avoid spamming the list :-).
In fact I was no aware of all the results available in 7x7. So I think you are
right, 7x7 is no more interesting. I though it could b
Quoting David Fotland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
7x7 is pretty much solved (by people, not exhaustive search), so it's a much
easier game than chess.
Correct komi is 9 points. http://senseis.xmp.net/?7x7BestPlay
Here are some random comments about 7x7 and Valkyria. I think the
complexity of
7x7 is
gt; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:49 AM
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> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Computer go in 7x7
>
>
> Yes, it wouldn't be best for building a strong player unless the
> program assumed a certain komi. But then it gives up if it cannot
> achieve that komi
Yes, it wouldn't be best for building a strong player unless the
program assumed a certain komi. But then it gives up if it cannot
achieve that komi.
Which reminds me - when you run test suites, you have this problem. I
have to doctor up problems so that the correct move gives a win and all
in
But then you have to change your code to favor average terrirory over win ratio.
On 10/10/06, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A good way to structure 7x7 matches, is that you forget komi, and just
play 1 game as white and 1 games as black, adding up the territory in
both games.Then y
A good way to structure 7x7 matches, is that you forget komi, and just
play 1 game as white and 1 games as black, adding up the territory in
both games.Then you don't have to worry about which komi is correct.
- Don
On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 13:02 -0400, House, Jason J. wrote:
> I think Crazy S
I think Crazy Stone did very well on 7x7 with an opening book. If you
go down that road, I recommend that you consider using the attached
file to populate the database.
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Hello all,
I am wondering about Go in 7x7. I know that the game in this size has no real
interest in itself. However, I think that the level of computer go programs
is much higher in 7x7 than in 9x9, and it could be interesting to see until
where we can go in 7x7.
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