But then you have to change your code to favor average terrirory over win ratio.
On 10/10/06, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A good way to structure 7x7 matches, is that you forget komi, and just play 1 game as white and 1 games as black, adding up the territory in both games. Then you don't have to worry about which komi is correct. - Don On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 13:02 -0400, House, Jason J. wrote: > I think Crazy Stone did very well on 7x7 with an opening book. If you > go down that road, I recommend that you consider using the attached > file to populate the database. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [computer-go] Computer go in 7x7 > > Hello all, > > I am wondering about Go in 7x7. I know that the game in this size has > no real > interest in itself. However, I think that the level of computer go > programs > is much higher in 7x7 than in 9x9, and it could be interesting to see > until > where we can go in 7x7. > > There was a discussion on this list recently about the level of > CrazyStone in > 7x7, and also (perhaps not on this list, only on kgs I don't remember) > of > Magnus saying that the level of Valkyria was very good on 7x7. I am > wondering > if we can make a player that beats almost all humans in 7x7? > > I have tried to put MoGo on kgs in 7x7, but it looses quite a lot of > games. > Ok, I have put only 5 minutes time, so it plays quite fast, and perhaps > could > be better with more time, but it is clearly far from a really good > player. > > I have implemented a meta-UCT (that means that instead of playing a > random > game after the tree, you make MoGo playing against itself) to generate > an > opening database. I have made this meta-UCT 100% parallel for a cluster > (as > the evaluation is now so costly, parallelisation is trivial). I can > dedicate > quite a lot of computers to this task as I have access to a cluster. > So I wonder if you think that this meta-UCT can be effective to > generate a > good opening database, and this way manage to have a really good > computer Go > player in 7x7 ? > Perhaps usual UCT exploits too much for this task, because my > experiments show > that the beginning of the tree is quite narrow. Here are the first > moves: D4 > D5 E5 C4 D3 C5. I have no idea if it is very stupid or normal. > > Remi was saying that the right komi for 7x7 is 9, but I have made my > experiments with komi 7.5, and the meta-UCT predicts that black is > almost > always loosing. Is it because the blacks moves are very bad? > > To conclude, I think this question of 7x7 is interesting because we can > > perhaps have a very good player. What do you think? If you have good > ideas to > make the meta-UCT generate a good database, I can dedicate a lot of CPU > to > this task, and would interested to see what happen. > > Sylvain > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
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