Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-19 Thread Chris Bennett via CnC-List
Hi folks, I own Drifter, a C&C 24 from 1985. A recent survey by a potential buyer found that despite the keel being well attached (no 'smile' or obvious issues with the sump to keel joint) the keel moves up to 4 inches from side to side while the boat is hanging in the slings. The surveyor attribu

Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

2020-04-19 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
I am moving forward with the below deck linear drive install. We put in the structural support and then exposed the rudder post. However a few oddities. First, in spite of the build plans calling for an 80mm diameter rudder post it is, in fact, 75mm. And, although the Images that Josh posted

Stus-List Nova Scotia Listers

2020-04-19 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I hope none of our Nova Scotia listers were affected by the incident today. Dennis C. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to se

Re: Stus-List Nova Scotia Listers

2020-04-19 Thread Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List
Drove through Portapique 2ce yesterday. Fortunately safe at home today. Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 Armdale Y.C. On 4/19/2020 8:01 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: I hope none of our Nova Scotia listers were affected by the incident today. Dennis C.

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

2020-04-19 Thread Bryan Colwell via CnC-List
Tom, I had the same issue on my 34+, no keyway. I called Edson and they said you must drill through the post. The Edson arm has a hole on one end which guides the drill to the opposite side. Then you finish by drilling through the bronze arm for the bolt. Be sure and use a cobalt drill bit to ge

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

2020-04-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Good lord! Drill through 3 inches of stainless steel! Nope! That one is going to the machine shop for me. I don't care if it is a cobalt bit and guided. The machine shop could put in a keyway while you have it out instead of a hole. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun,

Re: Stus-List Nova Scotia Listers

2020-04-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Dennis! You're alive! There were inquiries about your status after storms rolled through a week or two ago. What happened in Nova Scotia? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 19:02 Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > I hope none of our Nova Scotia listers wer

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

2020-04-19 Thread Bryan Colwell via CnC-List
1991 34+ post is hollow. Way too heavy if it was solid. On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 4:17 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Good lord! Drill through 3 inches of stainless steel! Nope! That one is > going to the machine shop for me. I don't care if it is a cobalt bit an

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

2020-04-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Very deceptive. I would have never guessed. On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 19:25 Bryan Colwell via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > 1991 34+ post is hollow. Way too heavy if it was solid. > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 4:17 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Good l

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

2020-04-19 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Tom, I am told not all rudderposts have a keyway that reaches down the post far enough. I was lucky; mine did. It may be that you exposed the shaft further down than I did. I've heard from others that they didn't have a keyway and had to drill the post and install bolts. Your other choi

Re: Stus-List Nova Scotia Listers

2020-04-19 Thread Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List
Very small community near my cottage had someone go in murder a bunch of people.  So very sad. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-weapon-lockdown-portapique-1.5537598 Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 Armdale Y.C. On 4/19/2020 8:18 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List w

Stus-List Nova Scotia Listers

2020-04-19 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
  Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: "What happened in Nova Scotia?" Josh/Dennis, this is not C&C related but quickly as I understand...shooter was a 51 year old denturist...dressed as a RCMP Officer and driving a police cruiserSaturday night he set at least 3 homes on firekilled 13 vict

Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-19 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Chris, Trying to understand exactly what you are describing without a pictureare you saying the keel is tight to the keel box but the keel box is cracked from the hull?  If there is no 'smile' and your keel moves 4"  side to side, what else could it be?  If I understand correctly, that's

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-19 Thread Chris Bennett via CnC-List
Hi Rob, I do have pictures but do not know how best to post them to this forum so I will upload them to my google drive. This is the shareable link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qEfA4WHGKMVUk6bKch9X4-hXn76AR46C The issue I believe from examining the bilge area is that my C&C 24 has stiffener

Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install

2020-04-19 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
According to the 37+/40 build specs , the rudder post is supposed to be 3.15” OD 1.97” ID SS bar. Though mine is closer to 3” OD I suspect it is still hollow with an ID of ~ 1.75” or so. That’s still plenty of steel to drill through, but way less hassle the hauling and dropping the rudder. Th

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-19 Thread Chris Bennett via CnC-List
Forgot to add that the surveyor has said he will not provide further comment without an additional survey... On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 17:26, Robert Abbott wrote: > Chris, > > Trying to understand exactly what you are describing without a > pictureare you saying the keel is tight to the keel bo

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install

2020-04-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
You can drop the rudder in the water. Josh On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 21:44 Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > According to the 37+/40 build specs , the rudder post is supposed to be > 3.15” OD 1.97” ID SS bar. > > Though mine is closer to 3” OD I suspect it is still hollow

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-19 Thread Lewis Cooke via CnC-List
There is a Youtube video I believe the channel is called sailing Uma. They have a pearson 38 with the same problem (keel wag) anyhow there is a full video of them repairing it, hope that helps. Lewis Cooke S/V For Play C&C 30-1 #45 On Apr 19, 2020 9:46 PM, "Chris Bennett via CnC-List" wrote: F

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-19 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
Hi Chris, Your mast compression post issue is a slightly different version of what many C&Cs of your vintage have experienced.  My 35-1 has basically that same construction to support the bottom of the mast: a stack of plywood lightly encased in fiberglass that spans the bilge at the turn of t

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install

2020-04-19 Thread Chris Riedinger via CnC-List
Our 37+ has a keyway; curious where you exposed the post if maybe the keyway is only partway down the post On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 6:44 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > According to the 37+/40 build specs , the rudder post is supposed to be > 3.15” OD 1.97” ID SS bar.

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install

2020-04-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
That's a good thought Chris. I can't remember seeing any deviation in the design of the post that suggests that the keyway was an after thought or only partial length. I'll see if I can find any pictures. Josh On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 23:19 Chris Riedinger via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wro

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install

2020-04-19 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The resolution is terrible but it kinda looks like the keyway on mine is only partial length. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yamN6dnRQWUp0NEE/view?usp=drivesdk On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 23:22 Josh Muckley wrote: > That's a good thought Chris. I can't remember seeing any deviation in t

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-19 Thread Chris Bennett via CnC-List
Lewis - thanks for the suggestion re the video - they did a great job of repairing the floors in that boat - what a huge project! The link is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyKy-cDy6e8 Neil - thanks for your comments. I wish I had been there for the survey but it was done by the buyer in an