Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List
I’m not sure where to reference the regulations/guidelines on this, so if someone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. I would like to add a couple more batteries and am looking at AGMs due to their tolerance of being at an angle. Since, as I understand, they are not

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Pete, I believe they do. Also, it’s not a good idea to mix battery types. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --

Stus-List Photo album order

2018-10-16 Thread Stu via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Hi Pete, my boat has AGMs in the bilge--not in boxes--and my surveyor was fine with the installation. Cheers Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middletown, RI USA02842 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Oct 16, 2018, at 07:55, Edd Schillay via CnC-

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Dave Smith via CnC-List
I have 4 AGM on my C&C , two laying on their sides and none of them in boxes. Since AGM are completely sealed no need for boxes or having them upright. Dave On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 8:36 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Pete, my boat has AGMs in the bilge--not i

Stus-List Force 10 2 burner range

2018-10-16 Thread Maurice Poulin via CnC-List
Hello all, Slightly off C&C topic but the force 10 2 burner range in our C&C 30 MKII has lost its igniter function at some point since 1988. Did some digging last night and found the battery compartment and wire under the stove and in very bad shape. Seems the battery leaked and dissolved conn

Re: Stus-List AGM Batteries

2018-10-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Pete, The battery box can serve two purposes – prevent a spill and cover the terminals. As far as I know, the AGMs don’t have to be in a box to protect you from spills, but you have to cover the terminals in some way to prevent a short (a box is one of the many ways). Btw. they are lead-acid,

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I don't think a formalized commercially available box is specifically required. If you find references contrary please let me know. However "battery boxes" serve multiple purposes beyond acid containment. Properly engineered and installed boxes ensure that a loop seal is maintained such that wate

Re: Stus-List Force 10 2 burner range

2018-10-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
You have described exactly what most owners experience. Yes the stove is ground. Yes the AA batteries leak and destroy the connections. Yes it can be fixed relatively easy. You'll probably find that you only use the stove a handful of times and that after a season the AA battery leaks again and

Re: Stus-List Force 10 2 burner range

2018-10-16 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Or you can put Lithium AA's in it and they'll last for years and not leak. Ken H. On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 10:19, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > You have described exactly what most owners experience. Yes the stove is > ground. Yes the AA batteries leak and destroy t

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
You should also be aware that there are different types of chemistry in AGM batteries. My new ProNautic charger has 4 different programs for charging AGM batteries, and at least one of those is pretty much identical to the programs available for lead-acid. But the instruction manual for the char

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I have AGM batteries and they are charged exclusively by the alternator or solar panel. In neither case do I know of a way to regulate the charging for compatibility with AGM. The charger for shore power is set for AGM, but I rarely use it. Is there something I should be doing with the altern

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Lithium is an interesting option, isn’t it? About quarter of the weight. You need about half of the Ah capacity (since you can go from 20-100%, instead of 50-80%) and your bulk charging can get you to 100%. But you need some sophisticated charging and controlling circuitry. I am not sure if we

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
I saw these Lithium batteries at the boat show: https://relionbattery.com/ 100 amp hour Type 31 size $850. Need an external voltage regulator, but the batteries have a BMS system built in. Just looking right now. I like the local vendor (Pasco). Joel On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:55 AM Marek Dz

Stus-List prpeller question

2018-10-16 Thread WILLIAM LENNOX via CnC-List
I have a 38 ft. landfall with a yanmar 30 hp. What is the correct size of propeller for just - cruising - 3 blade??   2 blade??  thanks  Bill Lennox 65 Westmount Rd N unit 909 Waterloo, ON N2L 5G6 1 519 884 0298 wclen...@rogers.com___ Thanks everyone

Re: Stus-List Lithium Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Joel; the price doesn't scare me off, (the way it would have a few years ago), if they do what they claim; what have you learned about the life expectancy of one of these Lithium batteries? Are there any other side effects (gasses, odors, fires, etc) thanks Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C

Re: Stus-List prpeller question

2018-10-16 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Whoever you buy the propeller from should specify the diameter and pitch. Different brand props may require a slightly different pitch. A 3 blade prob will give you more bite, but at an additional cost. If you have a clearance problem between the blade tip and the hull a 3 blade will allow a smal

Re: Stus-List prpeller question

2018-10-16 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
My landfall 38 came with a 2-blade but it was severely under-propped. About 2 years ago, I changed it out to a 3-blade and it has made a huge difference. Bob Bob Boyer s/v Rainy Days C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230) (Presently in Baltimore for the summer) blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com email: dainyr.

Re: Stus-List Lithium Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Richard, If you believe the claims the batteries will outlive all of us, but from what I have read overcharging them or letting them float at high voltage really shortens their life. There is lots of information about them on CruisersForum. Some of the writers even seem to know what they are tal

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
David, You need to look at the battery manufacturer's info to know the charge profile for your batteries. To change the alternator charge profile you'll probably need to install an external regulator. The most important part of the profile is the max charging voltage. Most AGMs are limited to 1

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
I have been cruising for over 2 years with 4 AGMs (Group 31) and a 110-amp alternator plus solar panels. Smart regulator was not needed. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230) Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com Email: dainyr...@icloud.com Annapolis, MD > On Oct 16, 2018, at

Stus-List Force 10 2 burner range

2018-10-16 Thread kelly petew via CnC-List
I have an owner's manual. Let me know if anyone wants a copy. Is it possible to place a pdf on the cncphotoalbum? Pete W. Siren Song '91 C&CMKII #170 Deltaville, Va. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and e

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Just because it works doesn’t mean that you are going to get optimal results. Follow the link below to see the differences between flooded and AGM https://www.trojanbattery.com/pdf/TrojanBattery_UsersGuide.pdf Josh On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 4:47 PM Robert Boyer wrote: > I have been cruising for o

Re: Stus-List AGM Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
I had two gel cell batteries on my 27-5. I took one home over the winter and put it on a smart auto trickle charger. It was dead when I put it back on the boat. The one I left was still working. I replaced them with flooded and had no problems over the winter. Flooded were a fraction of the

Re: Stus-List prpeller question

2018-10-16 Thread svrebeccaleah via CnC-List
Bill,If I remember correctly.  On my LF38 I had a 17x12 2 blade and replaced it with a 17x12 3 blade (over propped). A 17x11 3 blade would be about right. I had a 3qm30 yanmar.  Doug MountjoySv Rebecca Leah LF39Port Orchard YC  Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device null__

Stus-List Speedseal Life now out of business

2018-10-16 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hello all, I just thought I'd drop a note to let everyone know that Speedseal is now out of business due to illness of the owner(s). Hopefully someone will resurrect the idea! Kindest Regards Bruce Whitmore 1994 C&C 37/40+"Astralis" (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net _

Re: Stus-List Force 10 2 burner range

2018-10-16 Thread Maurice Poulin via CnC-List
Hello, I sure would like a PDF of the manual. If you could email it to mp...@aol.com that would be very appreciated. Thank you very much cheers, Maurice Poulin Monoloy C&C 30 MKII -Original Message- From: kelly petew via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: kelly petew Sent: Tue, Oct 16, 201

Stus-List Torque specs?

2018-10-16 Thread Steve Martin via CnC-List
I'm looking for the keel bolt torque specs for a c&c 44?Any ideas? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use P

Re: Stus-List Force 10 2 burner range

2018-10-16 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Too funny!! I just discovered this exact situation on Sunday ! . I finally dug out the Manual 3(3 burner force 10 with broiler oven) to locate the dang Battery which I just could not find! Reached under right bottom corner and whala a rotten AA battery with juicy broken black holder! and yes

Re: Stus-List Lithium Batterries

2018-10-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
There should be no gases, odours or any other side effects. But they can overheat if you use them or charge incorrectly. They have very high energy density and you have probably read about exploding laptops, phones or Boeings 787s. You will need very specialized charger and alternator regulato

Re: Stus-List Torque specs?

2018-10-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
https://youtu.be/n6B0IPKQERc Look in the description below. I left a link to the websites I used for torque specs. You can cross check nut size to bolt size too. Let me know if you have any other questions. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 11:49 PM Ste