Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mast Step Support Rebuild Project Write-Up

2017-12-11 Thread Mike Casey via CnC-List
What a fantastic story and great technical guide. The PO of my boat did this, but it was a bit of a mystery and I have never checked what he did. I will now. Your guide should be put in the technical part of the cncphotoalbum. Mike Casey C&C 30 1980 #636 Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada On Sun, Dec 10

Re: Stus-List Replacing shifter cable

2017-12-11 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Don, Do not take apart the Pedestal to replace the cables. You will need to remove the compass and the engine control cylinder but there’s no need to take apart the wheel shaft (if you have, go ahead and replace and lubricate the shaft bearings once you’re in there with Teflon grease, not petr

Re: Stus-List Replacing shifter cable

2017-12-11 Thread mike amirault via CnC-List
Don, I have replaced both the shifter and the throttle cable on my C&C33ii. (Edson pedestal) Disconnecting the cable from the levers is probably the easiest part of the job. The two big issues I ran into were: 1. The cables are strapped to the rear of the pedestal via a special clamp. If you have

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mast Step Support Rebuild Project Write-Up

2017-12-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
The 30-1 and 35-1 suffer from the same issue and the fix is pretty similar. I did mine in 1995 I think and it wasn’t real expensive in $$, but it was a lot of time with a chisel getting semi-rotted wood out. I still don’t get why C&C did such a bad job with this, doing it the right way at build

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mast Step Support Rebuild Project Write-Up

2017-12-11 Thread Nauset Beach via CnC-List
Apparently many Sabres have the same issue – on a similar email group to this one they call it “the dreaded mast step disease.” Wood stringers wrapped in fiberglass under the mast step and then drilled limber holes through the wood. Does not take a genius to see any water would soak the wood a

Stus-List How to join list

2017-12-11 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
A friend's just acquired a C and C and would like to join the list. Could someone point me to instructions on how to join? CheersDoug WelchCeltic Knot33-2 c/b Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contrib

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mast Step Support Rebuild Project Write-Up

2017-12-11 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Pearson avoided the problem by having the base of the mast in the bilge, so only the mast rotted. Others also used that technique. Joel On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Nauset Beach via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Apparently many Sabres have the same issue – on a similar email

Re: Stus-List How to join list

2017-12-11 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ Look at menu on left, scroll down to "Email discussion list/suscribe" Neil Gallagher Weatherly, 35-1 Glen Cove NY On 12/11/2017 10:40 AM, Doug Welch via CnC-List wrote: A friend's just acquired a C and C and would like to join the list. Could someone point me to

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mast Step Support Rebuild Project Write-Up

2017-12-11 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
You guys are making me nervous. From: Nauset Beach via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 10:40 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Nauset Beach Subject: Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mast Step Support Rebuild Project Write-Up Apparently many Sabres have the same issue – on a similar email group to th

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mast Step Support Rebuild Project Write-Up

2017-12-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
The $1 solution was sealing the hole and the $20 solution was having the mast step span the gap so the wood was not acting like a bridge over the bilge with weight in the center. My new ½” aluminum plate over the new wood spans the width of the bilge and does try and bend the wood. Joe Coquina

Re: Stus-List Replacing shifter cable - but

2017-12-11 Thread DON JONSSON via CnC-List
Hi Thanks to comments on replacing shifter cable. The catch is I'm not sure the binnacle is an Edson. The shifters are not mounted in the side of the binnacle and the cables do not run up and down inside the binnacle. Rather they run up through the binnacle support/protector stainless tubes.

Re: Stus-List Replacing shifter cable - but

2017-12-11 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Don — that’s most likely the older Edson system, with the narrower riser tube on the pedestal; Chuck Gilchrest will know the model number (301?). That’s a completely different animal, and something I don’t think Edson has sold for 35 years or more. The system was in place on my LF38 when I bou

Stus-List C&C Photo Album owners database

2017-12-11 Thread Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
Does anyone know how to edit a post in the owners database? I can't see an edit option. I also notice a few double postings. Thanks Brad Pulse C&C 33 Mk II Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~ ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this li

Stus-List C&C Photo Album owners database

2017-12-11 Thread Stu via CnC-List
At this time, the only way to edit or delete an entry in the database is to send me an email and I will make the changes for you. Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com On Mon, December 11, 2017 11:22 am, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List wrote: > Does anyone know how to edit a post in the owners database?

Re: Stus-List 30-1 Mast Step Support Rebuild Project Write-Up

2017-12-11 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Thanks Mike. Of course, the rig has to be down to check the mast step supports. I took my rig down again this offseason just so I could inspect the supports (and also replace the bilge pump under the step, which turned out to be a POS - my review at https://www.westmarine.com/buy/rule-industr

Re: Stus-List Replacing shifter cable - but

2017-12-11 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
I replaced the cable on my 1977 C&C 27 which sounds like the same setup.  There is a small screw on the tube that holds the shifter cable bracket.  If memory serves, once you remove the screw you can lift the cable or push it up from below, and the pull the cotter pin. Feel free to call if you w

Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C&C rendezvous

2017-12-11 Thread Daniel Sheer via CnC-List
Josh, White Rocks Marina, where Pegathy is docked, has lots of transient slips, and Mike's Crab House North on the property (though it may be closed in early October). It's 33 min from Annapolis by car. Maryland Yacht club is also nearby, and might host the rendezvous. It's about 4-5 hours nort

Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C&C rendezvous

2017-12-11 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
Please remember to TRIM replies, especially replies from the digest! =-O On 12/11/2017 1:05 PM, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List wrote: Josh, White Rocks Marina, where Pegathy is docked, has lots of transient slips, and Mike's Crab House North on the property (though it may be closed in early Octob

Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic Rendezvous

2017-12-11 Thread Daniel Sheer via CnC-List
Josh, White Rocks Marina, where Pegathy is docked, has lots of transient slips, and Mike's Crab House North on the property (though it may be closed in early October). It's 33 min from Annapolis by car. Maryland Yacht club is also nearby, and might host the rendezvous. It's about 4-5 hours north

Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C&C rendezvous

2017-12-11 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Dan, I welcome all the help and suggestions I can get. Make a case that meets the considerations of all interested parties. 2 things I'm trying to keep in mind is that the most number of people are able to attend either by car or by boat if it is held between Solomons and Annapolis. The other t

Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C&C rendezvous

2017-12-11 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Josh, Plenty of slips in Back Creek too. Watergate Marina is an option, plus people can anchor in the Creek for free. Larger boats can anchor off the seawall by the Naval Academy and there is also room in Weems Creek, just off the Severn River. There used to be Navy mooring balls in the Creek,

Stus-List PLEASE TRIM POSTS!

2017-12-11 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
There is a conversation going on about a rondezvous, and everybody is responding without trimming the entire digest that  should have been removed before the first person sent it. This costs Stu a lot of money, and aggravates many on the list. Please be more considerate. Thank you. ___

Stus-List 2018 Mid Atlantic...

2017-12-11 Thread David via CnC-List
In the off chance we make our way down there...I assume these areas have plenty of depth? ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal t

Re: Stus-List Replacing shifter cable - but

2017-12-11 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Don, Your boat has the same engine control as mine. It was a control made specifically for C&C because the engineers at C&C didn’t like the idea of the control cables for the engine running inside the pedestal, fearing they would possibly foul on the steering gear. It is either an Edson 737 o

Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid Atlantic...

2017-12-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Annapolis accommodates any draft C&C has ever made and then some. Saint Michaels surely does at anchor, not sure about every marina in there. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 2:59 PM To:

Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C&C rendezvous

2017-12-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Water taxi service means no dinghy needed as well in Annapolis. LOTS of things to do ashore for the shopping inclined. When we lived on the Severn many a cruise got derailed by Naptown. We would pick up a mooring Friday night after work and instead of heading out Saturday, breakfast ashore woul

Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid Atlantic...

2017-12-11 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Don’t believe him. He said he was coming to Greenport too. See: https://youtu.be/0WKRIDnFDls All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log

Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid Atlantic...

2017-12-11 Thread David via CnC-List
Ouch... David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) From: CnC-List on behalf of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid Atlantic... Don’t believe him. He said he w

Re: Stus-List Replacing shifter cable - but

2017-12-11 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Just be aware that with the smaller-diameter riser pipe on the older pedestals, running the control cables up the pedestal and switching to the 816 control levers is damn near impossible. Ask me how I know… — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in

Stus-List New Lister - Need Help Identifying Water System Fitting Type - C&C 36 1981

2017-12-11 Thread Tim Rutherford via CnC-List
Newbie here. Bought my first keelboat in June of this year, a 1981 C&C 36' with a centerboard. These boats are highly regarded in this area and personally, I absolutely love mine. Been racing other-people's-boats and bareboat cruising in Tampa Bay and the Caribbean for decades. I am a member of th

Re: Stus-List 2018 Mid-Atlantic C&C rendezvous

2017-12-11 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Joe, You're absolutely right about St Michael's being a charming port with lots of shops and restaurants. For that matter there are a few more charming places on the eastern shore which I'm perfectly willing to consider (Cambridge, Oxford, Tillman Island) and I'm sure more which I am simply unawa

Re: Stus-List New Lister - Need Help Identifying Water System Fitting Type - C&C 36 1981

2017-12-11 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Qest fittings. You can use Sharkbite fittings or buy those at hardware and RV stores. Joel On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Tim Rutherford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Newbie here. Bought my first keelboat in June of this year, a 1981 C&C 36' > with a centerboard. These boat

Re: Stus-List New Lister - Need Help Identifying Water System Fitting Type - C&C 36 1981

2017-12-11 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yep Qest fittings. I really like the flair-it fittings as an alternative. https://mobilehomepartsstore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=CF Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mon, Dec 11, 2017, 3:59 PM Tim Rutherford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com>

Re: Stus-List New Lister - Need Help Identifying Water System Fitting Type - C&C 36 1981

2017-12-11 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Qest was made by Zurn out of polybutylene plastic. The fittings have some great advantages including the ability to assemble/disassemble without tools and freeze resistance. The problem is that chlorine has the effect of degrading the plastic and making it brittle. You'll probably notice that th

Re: Stus-List Replacing shifter cable - but

2017-12-11 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
And the model 870 is a complete No Go.. As an alternative, some folks relocate their engine controls on a bulkhead in the cockpit and go to a single lever control..but only if you have a diesel with 2 series 33 cables. A4 engine controls would require a dual lever control.. Chuck Gilchrest

Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
So here's the last post I'll make about selling Peregrine. She is really in quite brilliant condition. Check the web site: https://aburtonsailor.wixsite.com/peregrine To those who asked just what it took to get me to part with my beloved C&C, here she is: http://www.nautorswanusaeast.com/boat-fo

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Andrew — very nice. When can I come sail with you…? :^) — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Dec 11, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List > wrote: > > So here's the last post I'll make about selling Peregrine

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Yeah. That would do it… Best, Dave Godwin 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit > On Dec 11, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List > wrote: > > So here's the last post I'll make about selling Peregrine. She is really in

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Fred, this Sunday! Or you can wait for summer like a wimp. Andy On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Andrew — very nice. When can I come sail with you…? :^) > > — Fred > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Gorgeous boat. Is that a Doug Peterson or an S&S Baltic? I suppose you know that Rob Ball drew a host of boats for Baltic as well... Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 83 35 Landfall Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2017, at 5:14 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List > wrote: > > Yeah. That would do i

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi Andy- Nice boat! Is that what teak looks like if untreated and allowed to weather or is it treated in some way? Dave Aries 1990 C&C 34+ New London, CT > On Dec 11, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List > wrote: > > So here's the last post I'll make about selling Peregrine. She i

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Greg Arnold via CnC-List
What a boat.  What a price.  The steal of a lifetime. You will have to report on Swan vs. Baltic quality and design. Greg Arnold Sailing a club-owned Catalina 400 in SoCal On 12/11/2017 2:04 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Ouch — if I wasn’t aware of your sailing credentials, I’d take serious offense at your calling a Lake Superior sailor a “wimp”… :^) — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Dec 11, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-Li

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Andy She’s beautiful! I raced a B38 from Annapolis to Newport and was very impressed with her build and how well she sailed. Congrats! Joel On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 5:35 PM Frederick G Street via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Ouch — if I wasn’t aware of your sailing credentials, I’

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Fred just trying to give you an incentive to join me. As another great delivery skipper said, "Incentives are important, boss. Learned that in rehab." Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Dec 11, 201

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Dave, the decks are pretty much shot. They should be regularly scrubbed--across the grain--so they are a lovely Grey/white. Andy Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Dec 11, 2017, at 17:25, David Kn

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Thanks, Joel. I'll look forward to getting your opinion of the 47 after you've sailed her. Andy Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Dec 11, 2017, at 18:04, Joel Aronson via CnC-List > wrote: > >

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Ya done good. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > So here's the last post I'll make about selling Peregrine. She is really > in quite brilliant condition. Check the web site: > > https://aburtonsa

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread schiller via CnC-List
Wow.  Nice boat.  You must be a glutton for punishment with all of that deck teak. Let us know how she sails. Neil Schiller 1983 C&C 35-3, Hull #028 "Grace" White Lake, Michigan On 12/11/2017 5:04 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote: So here's the last post I'll make about selling Peregrine.

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine for sale

2017-12-11 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List
Beautiful boat ! Lots of enjoyment and pleasure in your new "C&C"Jim schwartzSEA YA!38 LFwashington nc  Original message From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List Date: 12/11/17 6:15 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 Peregrine f

Stus-List C&C Photo Album owners database

2017-12-11 Thread Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
Thank you Stu, will remember that for later. Brad C&C 33 MKII Lake Huron Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~ ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you wa

Re: Stus-List new haylards

2017-12-11 Thread Jim via CnC-List
Neil If you have any pictures similar to what Dennis sent to show how your main halyard exits the mast (assuming it runs up inside) that would be appreciated. My main halyard is all wire, not rope / wire so might be different than what you had. The jib and spinnaker halyards are rope / wire. M

Re: Stus-List Replacing shifter cable - but

2017-12-11 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
Hi Don Chuck’s instructions pretty much mirror our experience. Once the compass and plate are off and the cable clamp screw is removed, the entire cable / clamp / handle assembly can be removed from the binnacle. Attach new cable to the handle, attach cable clamp, refit into binnacle and t