Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yeah Paul, I had considered doing that. I also considered having a single piece of rod drilled and tapped at the correct distance for my selected pad eye fitting. I'm just kinda trying to figure out what others do. Everybody else just tie it to the boom? Thanks for the idea, lets keep 'em comin

Re: Stus-List Ground loop?

2016-04-08 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
What you have is what I would expect to see as a ground system for a SSB, AM transmitter (really old), or LORAN. Also note I don’t really like using the engine as a central grounding point. BlueSea sells a number of terminals you can use as the central grounding point and then run one heavy grou

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Josh The 2007 C&C115 that we race and the 2008 C&C99 that I sail on both are just tied around the boom. I think that more or less says this is still how it is done. Our own ancient Frers 33 also tied around a painted boom. No wear on paint on the two C&Cs and the wear I see on the Frers boom

Re: Stus-List Ground loop?

2016-04-08 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Thanks guys for the educated guesses and thanks Joe for the insight and advice. Some sort of lightning arrest system was my first guess, but I thought it was odd that the mast wasn't connected to it... Which would be essential for a lightning system. I hadn't considered an old short wave or Lor

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
On my ancient 30-1, the factory installed two stout pad-eyes on the port side of the boom and two cheek blocks on the opposite side. Reefing line(s) run from pad-eye up through cringle in sail, down to cheek block and then forward to a winch on the starboard side of the boom. This assures that t

Re: Stus-List Ground loop?

2016-04-08 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I’m coming down on the side of a ground plate for LORAN, as somebody else mentioned. If it were my boat, I’d probably pull the plate at the next haul out and repair the holes in the hull. As far as a ground loop goes, they’re pretty common in audio and RF systems; I’m going to stick with audio

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
What Gary describes is exactly how the reeling is configured on the booms of both my 38 and my 25. The only thing I might add to his description is that the pad eye and blocks are not directly under the reef cringles, but a couple of inches aft of that. The reef line not only holds the cringles

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 123, Issue 40

2016-04-08 Thread Mitchell's via CnC-List
fore fully tighten the screws to >> lock it in place. See the attached picture of a slug stop. I was kinda >> hoping someone made this type of thing (a pad eye anchored in a bolt rope >> track) but all I could find was the harken bat-car system and it is >> designed to mount a tra

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
At a recent LOOR night Geoff Moore from North Sails spoke about sails and trim for the "offshore" races. His recommendation was to have the reefing line tied around the boom. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Josh The 2007 C&C115 that we race and the 2008 C&C99 that I sail on both are just ti

Stus-List Boom Fittings

2016-04-08 Thread Mitchell's via CnC-List
Josh, My 1989 37+ has two ropes that go through the boom and to the coach roof led aft to the winches and a rams horn hook on the front of the boom. The two ropes go to each reef point on the leech and I use a line stopper knot (figure of eight) to secure. I let off halyard tension, hook the Ram

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Robbie Epstein via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Ground loop?

2016-04-08 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Thanks Fred, I know that 60hz hum and its harmonic brethren all too well - I used to be in a very loud rock band that used excessive gain to cover up terrible guitar playing... Regarding putting in a bus bar instead of connecting everything to the engine: For the sake of brevity I didn't explain

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Marek Dziedzic (hotmail) via CnC-List
The only thing I would suggest is to use some pad-eye under the boom or some other way to make sure that the line around the boom cannot slide forward. It has to work as an outhaul, as well. Marek C270 “Legato” Ottawa, ON From: Michael Brown via CnC-List Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 10:41 To: c

Re: Stus-List Boom Fittings

2016-04-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yeah Len, I have the 3 sheaves at the aft end of the boom. In fact I just had them all remade by zepherworks. The middle one is for the outhaul. First reef is on the stbd and second reef is on the port. If you only tie it in the reef hole and not the boom (through the reef hole) then the clew

Re: Stus-List Boom Fittings

2016-04-08 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Josh, Our mast and boom were built by Offshore Spars. Our boom has a track bolted to the starboard side with pin stop slides we use for the reefing points. You can see it in this photo (assuming the link works): https://goo.gl/photos/PbbNaZG4WaXGQEHL8 Ken H. On 8 April 2016 at 13:00, Josh Muck

Re: Stus-List Boom Fittings

2016-04-08 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
I don't like tieing the reef line at the reef point. It pulls the sail to that side and places a lot of stress on the grommet. I'd use either a reef hoof or a dog-bone so you are pulling down, not sideways. Also, if you attach the line to the boom you are getting a 2:1 purchase. Joel 35/3 Annap

Re: Stus-List Boom Fittings

2016-04-08 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Agree. Boom to cringle back to boom for the 2:1. Here's Touche's reef block and track. The boom has eye straps on the other side corresponding to the sail's reef points. They are located so the reef line pulls down and aft. The block gets moved accordingly. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B

Re: Stus-List Boom Fittings

2016-04-08 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Our reef lines starts at the slides on the T track, go through the grommets at the reef points on the mainsail, and then run to the back of the boom where they goes over the sheaves and disappears inside the boom to reappear at the mast and so on to the cabin-top rope clutches and winches. The giv

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
>...1 1/4 inch, t track mounted on the side of the boom... Calypso's boom has a similar T track on each side of the boom. I still tie the reefing lines around the boom and have seen very little paint wear. The tracks on Calypso's boom were installed long ago and may also act as stiffeners as t

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Awesome guys! Thanks everyone for the input. It looks like "that's just the way it is". Nobody in the industry has necessarily come up with anything earth shatteringly better. As I think I eluded to earlier, I'm averse to whimsically drilling holes in the boom. Besides, I'm not sure a track o

Stus-List West System Epoxy & resin

2016-04-08 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
I left my west system epoxy out in the shed all winter. would the sub freezing temps have had any ill effect? Should I just buy more? Danny___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay f

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Not too keen on the single line reefing arrangement. You're adding another 180 degree bend into a system that is already loaded with friction. I do have single line reefing and with a block at the luff and an electric winch it's fine for the first reef, marginal for the second. John Sent fro

Re: Stus-List West System Epoxy & resin

2016-04-08 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
From the West website: Store at room temperature. Keep containers closed to prevent contamination. With proper storage, resin and hardeners should remain usable for many years. Over time, 105 Resin will thicken slightly and will therefore require extra care when mixing. Repeated freeze/thaw c

Re: Stus-List West System Epoxy & resin

2016-04-08 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Danny, Two suggestions; check on the West systems web site and, if the bond is to critical (e.g. very important vs. cosmetic) run a test batch (2 pumps of each part) mix well and let cure. If it sets up and looks normal I would use it. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle [Description:

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Marek Dziedzic (hotmail) via CnC-List
My single line reefing works almost exactly as you describe (at the mast end, the line goes down to the mast collar, then up to the reefing cringle (actually a dog bone there)). The only difference is that I have a car inside the boom, so the line is split. It works just fine. You can reef from

Re: Stus-List West System Epoxy & resin

2016-04-08 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Bill, Martin, thank you for the help. Its just to seal the balsa in a penetration, above the water line. It'll probably be fine. I'll have to check it out tonight. Danny Please note: message attached From: Martin DeYoung via CnC-List To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Cc: Martin DeYoung Subject:

Re: Stus-List West System Epoxy & resin

2016-04-08 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
BTW, here at the transformer factory we commonly store epoxies in the freezer to extend the shelf life. Some of our exotic very high temp epoxies (use in aircraft propulsion) are shipped and stored at -40C. We have been using warm water to eliminate the crystals in epoxy hardener since 1972.

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
If you draw that out I believe it’s 3 X 180 degree turn, 3 X 90 degree turn and one nominal 30 degree deflection. Personally I would opt for 2 line but I’m biased toward that anyway. John > On Apr 8, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Marek Dziedzic (hotmail) via CnC-List > wrote: > > My single line reefi

Stus-List Optimus Prime

2016-04-08 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Martin Just curious, do you get to work with Optimus Prime? Tom B At 12:45 PM 4/8/2016, you wrote: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 18:52:19 + From: Martin DeYoung To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List West System Epoxy & resin Message-ID: <23eae197cc1b594fa8793397ebcd357d08

Re: Stus-List Optimus Prime

2016-04-08 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Yes, he's in shipping. Best regards, Martin From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:57 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Tom Buscaglia Subject: Stus-List Optimus Prime Martin Just curious, do you get to work

Re: Stus-List West System Epoxy & resin

2016-04-08 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List
Hi Danny If the resin comes out milky you need to warm it up to de-crystalize it. A bucket of very hot water will do the trick nicely, plop the can into it and let it sit a half hour. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2016-04-08 3:27 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List wrote: I left

Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring

2016-04-08 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Listers, Has anyone with 1989-1993 C&Cs installed instruments into a NavPod (or similar) onto their stainless pedestal guards, and, if so, how did you run the wires down from inside the guard? In other words, once you reached the bottom, where did you go from there? As far as I can tell, with

Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

2016-04-08 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Can I get there through the Highland Canal? Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie, PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy Stafford via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 12:31 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: randy.staff...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Stus-List La

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Rjcasciato via CnC-List
Josh: If what you're trying to do is use one line to reef both the tack and clew of the Mainthat's a lot of force needed for a single line. What's commonly done is to make up a "strap loop" probably 6" long with stainless rings at each end and fed through the tack grommet before sewing the lo

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Thanks Ron, That's pretty much how I do it now. I just keep thinking there might be something better... Guess not. Josh On Apr 8, 2016 4:33 PM, "Rjcasciato via CnC-List" wrote: > Josh: > > If what you’re trying to do is use one line to reef both the tack and clew > of the Main……….that’s a lot

Re: Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring

2016-04-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Edd, I have had my pedestal completely apart twice in 5 years. If you've never done this then stand by your in for a treat. Below the pedestal is a idle plate that holds 2 sheaves that change the direction of the steering cables from vertical to horizontal. That plate is made of carbon steel an

Re: Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring

2016-04-08 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Josh, I replaced my steering cables last year and the sheaves appear to be all right. As I have it now, my old GPS has a clamp which attaches to the guard and the wire goes into the pedestal under the engine controls (See photo in one of my recent Captain’s Log entries: http://enterpriseb.blog

Re: Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring

2016-04-08 Thread Ron Ricci via CnC-List
Edd, I had a Navpod with an MFD added to my 1991 37+. The pedestal guard was replaced so the Navpod could be mounted above the compass. The new pedestal guard has larger ID (1-1/8) to take MFD power, NMEA 2000 cables, radar cable and 12 VDC plug wiring. There is no access point in th

Re: Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring

2016-04-08 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Hi Edd, I've been quiet about this because I haven't run wires through my pedestal guard because the feet on mine are solid underneath. A single bolt attaches each foot. Edson sells a two bolt foot that is needed to use the guard as a conduit. Last I checked the feet cost $50 each. If you go

Stus-List 37+ and XL (and probably 34's too) Pedestal Guard Wiring

2016-04-08 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Edd I put the navpod on a pedestal guard that was about 8" taller than the old one. I then ran the wire through the inside of the pedestal guard to under the support plate for the guard, just under the binnacle where it exits the pedestal when I installed my e7 MFD. I had to tap into the bi

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Michael Crombie via CnC-List
Hi Ron, You refer to a "strap loop" that goes through the tack cringle. I think this is exactly what i'm missing! Where do I get one of these? Or how do I make one? For the past two years i've just been trying to hook the cringle onto the reefing hook on the boom...this doesn't work very wel

Stus-List Pedestal Guard

2016-04-08 Thread Stephen Thorne via CnC-List
er to extend the shelf life. Some of our exotic very high >> temp epoxies (use in aircraft propulsion) are shipped and stored at -40C. >> >> We have been using warm water to eliminate the crystals in epoxy >> hardener since 1972. >>

Stus-List (no subject)

2016-04-08 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Hi, I ran mine in the pedestal itself. You can run it unobtrusively from the pedestal into the guard near the compass binnacle. Then you can run that to the pod. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, Ga Sent from my iPad > On Apr 8, 2016, at 1:35 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 123, Issue 47

2016-04-08 Thread ssjohnson via CnC-List
in aircraft propulsion) are shipped and stored at -40C. > >We have been using warm water to eliminate the crystals in epoxy >hardener since 1972. > >Best regards, > >Martin Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com --

Stus-List Lake Michigan CnC Rendezvous

2016-04-08 Thread ssjohnson via CnC-List
Bill...saw you...in all probability...return from a race last year just before labor day last year.   Been thru Pentwater twice in the last couple of yearswe really like Snug Harbor.  Interested in a rendezvous!Spencer & Martha Johnson 84 Landfall 38 "Alegria"Winters in WaukeganSum

Re: Stus-List (no subject)

2016-04-08 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
>From PO I have some through binnacle and GPS zip tied to outside tubing and through small waterproof deck fitting. At first I just thought it was lazy to go to deck fitting, but it is much more serviceable and accessible fwiw. Kevin 89 30-2 Osprey On Fri, Apr 8, 2016, 7:24 PM Jean-Francois J Riv

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
You could also use your Cunningham. You have one? On Fri, Apr 8, 2016, 6:47 PM Michael Crombie via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Ron, > > You refer to a "strap loop" that goes through the tack cringle. I think > this is exactly what i'm missing! Where do I get one of these? Or h

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
When I had my mainsail made I had the sail maker include the dogbones (strops) in both reef cringles and I had him add a web nylon handle above the cringles so that you can pull the sail and control its movement while setting the dogbone. I have considered making my dogbones longer by removing the

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

2016-04-08 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Youb can quite easily make one. Have a look at the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91YlX4MRv3Q Marek -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Crombie via CnC-List Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 21:47 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc:

Re: Stus-List Lake Michigan Randevous

2016-04-08 Thread John Bousfield via CnC-List
Muskegon would be great! John and Marjolein dutch girl On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Jon Tasker via CnC-List wrote: > As member of Muskegon Yacht Club, I would be happy to make any and all > arrangements for a randevous at MYC if there is sufficient interest. Just > step up and let me know what th