Re: Stus-List 35-3 polars

2015-05-18 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
a 135 and a spinnaker...seems odd, i more expected a 100% jib for polars... where with regards to angle does the spinnaker come into play? Are those apparent wind angles or true wind angles...looks like they are apparent and if so the important numbers, like for apparent wind angle 25-40 suggest t

Re: Stus-List House/starting batteries.

2015-05-18 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I don't see any big problem with what you are doing and especially so if both batteries are deep cycle...I have done something similar for about 8 years, maybe not as rigourously as you describe and my batteries were still good last fall...haven't checked them this spring yet but I expect them to b

Stus-List Mirage in Newport

2015-05-18 Thread Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List
I saw Harry's Mirage in Newport during the VOR weekend. Nicest boat on the water. Will post pictures somewhere and email the link to the list. Pierre Tremblay Avalanche #54988 C&C38-3 WK, hull #76___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your l

Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport

2015-05-18 Thread Chuck Borge via CnC-List
Beautiful boat! The Northeast 39 is on my wish list... Chuck B C&C 34 Elusive Somerset, MA On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I saw Harry's Mirage in Newport during the VOR weekend. Nicest boat on the > water. Will post pictures somewh

Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread Andrew Frame via CnC-List
Hello folks. New guy here again. I have discovered that SeaTow is the company to stay away from. But what about BoatUS? My specifics are not extreme: river sailing or always in sight of the coast, always daytime. My concern is liability in case of an accident with another vessel, or some

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
Andrew, If you have homeowners insurance, ask agent about quoting you a marine rider. On a boat the size of yours should be no problem to get liability and agreed hull value policy. I did it for years until I got my 36, then had to go to inland marine policy separate from homeowners. Btw, I

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Andrew, I’m insured through Travelers through an outfit called Total Dollar Insurance. The rates are great and Travelers is quick to respond to claims. http://www.totaldollar.com/Site/2105926015/default.asp . Ask for Tom Carroll. For to

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread Jack Brennan via CnC-List
Andrew: You won't get boat coverage through your homeowner's in Florida. (God knows it's hard enough to GET homeowner's here because of hurricanes ...) Your best bet is Progressive Insurance. As long as you are OK with a sizeable deductible, you should be able to get coverage for $300-400 a y

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I got a boat liability policy from my home and auto insurance carrier (Erie) when I had my MacGregor 26C. A boat of that size for recreational sailing is easy to cover. BoatUS is fine but probably more than you need. I thought SeaTow was just for coming to help (tow, gas, etc). You can get boatu

Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread Kim Brown via CnC-List
Andrew I use TowBoatUS and am on the Caloosahatchee though down river - they are fine. Only had to use once in 25 yrs so they are way ahead on $ but the peace of mind when there is a problem is worth it to me. Usually they have a boat or two out and about though I am guessing Alva is not in their

Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport

2015-05-18 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
I’ve met Harry and seen the boat in the slip at NEB and looked at the Flickr site. Endlessly. Beautiful C&C lines and a gorgeous color scheme. I should know. I stole it and used it on Ronin... Cheers, Dave Godwin 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
Our home insurance agent was happy to provide a rider on our boat. Pretty cheap too. Then we read the fine print "will not cover flooding." We didn't think that was ideal for a boat. As they say "Read the fine print." KD On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:32 AM Kim Brown via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.c

Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
Could anyone please clarify whether it is proper etiquette for a past-Commodore's flag to be flown day and night on a boat that is moored permanently in the waters of a Club for which the owner of the boat was NOT Commodore. Etiquette rules that I can find are explicit on current Flag officers

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
You may want to check Chapman's.  If it's not there, I don't know where it would be.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL From: Indigo via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Indigo Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag Could anyone p

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I was under the impression that an officer's flag should only be flown when the officer is on board a vessel from his/her yacht club. That is, it should be flown on his/her personal vessel or any other vessel owned by a member of the yacht club for which the officer is a member and only while the

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Oh, I forgot to add that is should only be for the current flag officers. The US Power Squadron actually has separate flags for past officers. Dennis C. On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Dennis C. wrote: > I was under the impression that an officer's flag should only be flown > when the office

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Jonathan, In a conversation where I mentioned "Past Commodore", I was told by an ex-Naval Officer that once a Commodore always a Commodore. With that in mind, I believe the Past Commodore's burgee should be flown in the same manner as the Commodore's burgee. At our Club an executive membe

Re: Stus-List C&C 29-2 Prop walk

2015-05-18 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Depends on whether it RH or LF rotation.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL From: Gary Russell via CnC-List To: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 29-2 Prop walk I thought offset to port would help the situation.  No?Gary ~~~_/)~~~

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread PME via CnC-List
Hi, Here is my understanding of the difference between SeaTow and TowBoatUS. SeaTow operators derive their income from selling memberships and do not receive extra income from towing a SeaTow member. TowBoatUS operators do not receive any income from membership, the only receive a contracte

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hoo boy, The below should read "... an executive member does not qualify as Past Commodore unless he (she) completes the full term (of Commodore). This writing stuff is like "math is hard" too. Cheers, Russ (Alberta people will know what the remark means. :) At 10:24 AM 18/05/2015,

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
Thanks for your help. It would seem to make sense to consider the Past Commodores (assuming they completed full term) in the same light as Commodores in which case the flags (or are they burgees) should only be flown in other clubs waters when the officer is on official Club business (which I wo

Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc

2015-05-18 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
We use Allstate insurance. It's a boat specific policy with liability and agreed value. It's vary reasonable on the lake, a fraction of what BoatUs quoted for a similar coverage. I don't know if they cover coastal areas. For tow we get some free coverage with the West Marine gold advantage

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
Only experienced Seatow service once. Fellow boater needed help starting his engine (drained battery). Seatow can out very quickly and operator was extremely helpful, pleasant etc. We noticed a couple of 10 gal diesel jerrycans on the Seatow vessel. Asked the cost of a fuel drop. Did not really

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
I would disagree with that statement. If the boat owner was in fact a commodore and is flying the Past Comm flag along with the club burgee from that club it is fine. Geography has nothing to do with it - especially in CT where you may well have 3 clubs within 1/2 mile of each other. Yes, it

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
For my 1st sailboat, an O'day 22 I used BoatUS insurance and Towboat US unlimited package. for the 2nd boat a Viking 34 I went to Heritage Yacht insurance and still bought towboatUS unlimited. I priced BoatUS insurance but they were pretty high so shopped a bit and I liked being with a boat in

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
Can you cite that rule please sir? I don't believe a PC has to be on 'club business' to identify they are a PC of the club burgee they are flying. Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2015, at 15:32, Indigo via CnC-List wrote: > > Thanks for your help. It would seem to make sense to consider the

Re: Stus-List House/starting batteries.

2015-05-18 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Bev; When I bought my first “real” boat (the C&C 25 that I still own) and was chartering in Chesapeake Bay in the early 90s, the practice you follow was the normal and preferred method of maintaining your batteries. On odd number days start with battery 1, switch to “all” for charging when t

Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

2015-05-18 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
David, If I'm not mistaken, having the Sen-Dur retrofit makes it a fresh water cooled engine, not raw water. Two water pumps, right? The pump on the front of the engine circulates water/glycol through the engine block and to the heat exchanger, the second pumps sea water to the heat exchang

Re: Stus-List House/starting batteries.

2015-05-18 Thread jtsails via CnC-List
I agree with everything Rick said, but I am going to throw a little different question into the equation. I was in the same boat (ha, ha) with bev last year. Over the winter I rebuilt the system with two group 31 flooded wet cells for the house bank and was hoping to repurpose the better grp24 f

Re: Stus-List House/starting batteries.

2015-05-18 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
I don't know Atomic 4's but with a diesel it would be a no brainier for me - dual purpose as big as I could fit. Everyone one this list hates me for saying it but I wouldn't go near either a car battery or a golf cart battery. Current marine stuff is too good and fits into the designed space.

Re: Stus-List Towing - BoatUS v. SeaTow

2015-05-18 Thread Barbara Hickson Fellers via CnC-List
 Welcome to the list Andrew. This list is a Godsend.     I don't have any direct experience with either towing company (knock), but I've heard the franchises differ in "customer service" wherever you need one. I'd suggest joining BoatUS and buy their towing package (NOT the regular boat insuranc

Re: Stus-List Prop Walk C&C 29-2

2015-05-18 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Josh, the proper term for what you are describing is "torque steer", not prop wash. Torque steer to port in forward is present on all single screw boats with a RH prop, just as prop walk to port in reverse. A boat with a LH prop will torque steer to starboard, and prop walk to starboard.

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc.

2015-05-18 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Insurance is a necessity if your boat is worth a lot, but many people cruise without it. When I was single, I self insured my brand new Cape Dory 22 for 5 years. Now I own a house and I carry full coverage on my 36 footer cause I race and have to be responsible for crew and avoid losing our hous

Re: Stus-List Towing - BoatUS v. SeaTow

2015-05-18 Thread jtsails via CnC-List
I have both the insurance and the towing with BoatUS. The unlimited towing is a no-brainer in my area as Sea-tow is 30 miles away and TowBoatUS is local. I hate to admit that I’ve used them several times and the local guy is great! Helps to know the local folks and I can assure you that he will

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
So I see two boats each with a club burgee from the same club and each with a commodore's flag??? So which one is really the commodore? Don't you think there would be a rule somewhere that states a past commodore shouldn't fly a commodore's flag. I quit flying my flag officer flag once I was no

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc

2015-05-18 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
West Marine Gold Advantage is Towboat/US. But the coverage is limited. Something like $50 per incident. It is the same as the basic coverage you get with a Boat/US membership for $7.95. In fact, your Boat/US number will be the same as your West Advantage number. Generally any boat insurance (li

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
Dennis mou, The Past Commodore flag is very DIFFERENT from the Commodore's flag. Only a baboon could confuse them! Plus the PC always has the white hair. > On May 18, 2015, at 19:49, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > So I see two boats each with a club burgee from the same club and ea

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
A little harsh no? And btw - it's not white hair it's a sign of wisdom. Fireplace still works. Sent from my iPad > On May 18, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Stelios via CnC-List > wrote: > > Dennis mou, > > The Past Commodore flag is very DIFFERENT from the Commodore's flag. > > Only a baboon could

Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Kim Brown via CnC-List
Flag etiquette is clear in our club- Flag officers receive a flag with either one (rear) two (vice) or three (commodore) 'bare feet'. Same graphic that is on the club burgee. http://www.cmcs-sail.org Toes up if you are the current flag officer; toes down if you are a past officer. Kim Brown Trus

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Stelios via CnC-List
Here are the proper ones http://www.commodoreinsignia.com/flags_signals.asp Toes up or down? Interesting. Reminds me of a phrase used when a cow dies. Hmmm I just can't recall it! > On May 18, 2015, at 20:23, Kim Brown via CnC-List > wrote: > > ___

Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

2015-05-18 Thread David via CnC-List
Rick, Thank you. Correct on all counts except the missing vane is from the impeller which internally circulates the glycol. I need to do a bit of digging around the Sen-Dur exchanger and its design. Flat out at work all week and will be back out it this weekend. FYI...The raw water pump

Re: Stus-List Towing, Insurance, etc

2015-05-18 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I have BOATUS and TOWBOATUS. The towing insurance has been used twice since I got it ages ago and it cost so much to pay cash for a tow it was a great deal and then some. I hit a log and bent my propshaft and prop. BOATUS handled the claim with no drama and didn't blink at throwing in a new cutless

Re: Stus-List House/starting batteries.

2015-05-18 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
The A4 draws about 125 amps starting. I use a U1 size battery as the start battery – 35 AH and about 350 MCA. It works just fine. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com COQUINA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John Pennie via

Stus-List Heat exchanger problem

2015-05-18 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I hope someone can help with this problem. I removed my heat exchanger from my Universal M4-30 last winter and had it cleaned out and a radiator shop and then I repainted it. As far as I can tell, the guy who did it did not pressure test it because it came back disassembled. I did not think m

Re: Stus-List Prop Walk C&C 29-2

2015-05-18 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Rick, Is their such a thing as prop-wash? If so what is it? Josh On May 18, 2015 7:22 PM, "Rick Brass via CnC-List" wrote: > Josh, the proper term for what you are describing is "torque steer", not > prop wash. > > > > Torque steer to port in forward is present on all single screw boats with >

Re: Stus-List House/starting batteries.

2015-05-18 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
An A4 or a small diesel are pretty easy to start. I’d guess the A4 needs 200 amps or less. My 36 HP Westerbeke needs 175. And a small Yanmar is around 165-180. Heck, I’ve seen lawn mowers with bigger engines than we have. And just about any motor cycle draws more cranking amps than one of our en

Re: Stus-List House/starting batteries.

2015-05-18 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I have watched the meter when I start the engine. The A4 usually draws about 125-130 amps or so. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Monday,

Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's Flag

2015-05-18 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
I don't believe you may fly the C flag is you're not the current C.If a PC, then you may fly the PC flag only.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL From: Dennis C. via CnC-List To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Flag Etiquette - Past Commodore's F