Think about this in the context of sailboat ownership.
At one time or another, we've all done it. Some of us still do it. We all know
"that guy down the pier" that's raised it to an art form.
What? Doing or fixing something on a sailboat "on the cheap" that does or can
lead to less than sat
> Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 21:14:16 -0700
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-)
>
> Leslie.
> now on Maverick because the upgrade is free...
> ---
IBM 1130
Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
> Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 21:14:16 -0700
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-)
>
> Leslie.
> now on Maverick because the u
Home built computers using RCA chips. Memory cost around $50 for 1 K as I
mistily recall and got stuffed into breadboards from the electronics
wholesaler. It was a big day when characters appeared in the screen and made a
little sense.
Rich
> On May 16, 2014, at 6:33, via CnC-List wrote:
>
“She wants to do right, but not right now…”
Nice.
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit
On May 15, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List
wrote:
> I drink too much coffee anyway.
>
> I think Java is sponsored by Oracle (who bought SunSoft) so
Forgot my DP bona fides: KL-10
On May 16, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List
wrote:
> “She wants to do right, but not right now…”
>
> Nice.
>
>
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit
>
> On May 15, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Wally Bryant via
In my basement, I still have one of the
huge removable 300mb disc packs from my old CDC washtub backup
drive. New, back then, they were about $25k each and I had 8 of
them. The system it was connected to was mirrored pairs of
PDP-11's that were slightly modified b
At flight school we used to call it
engineering. Best example was using foil gum wrapper to "fix" a break in the
shielding on a spark plug wire.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
via CnC-List
Sent: F
If I install any Linux based OS is that equivalent to reformatting the hard
drive. I mean will I lose my MS Office applications and adobe etc if I do
that. If I make a separate partition for the Linux OS will I be able to
access applications in the Windows XP partition with it? I have lots of
ha
Blue Horizon No. 1. 1981 C&C 36
I believe Dad said they paid $65,000 in October 1980 + $20,000 to outfit
with electronics and sails. $12,000 of that was the Loran-C and the
radar. The broker guaranteed that it would hold its value for at least
ten years and it did.
Current owners are Bria
C&C 29-2 Sold new through New York Yacht Sales, Bay Shore, NY in 1986 for
$46,309 plus $2,394.49 tax. CCY29700H586.
John McLaughlin
"Falcon"
-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
To: Ron's Hardwood ; cnc-list
Sent: Thu, May 15, 2014 7:40 pm
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ENIAC?
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From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; w...@wbryant.com
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I beat you by quite a bit, I started with the PDP-8. ;-)
Leslie.
now on Maverick because the upgrade is free..
Switching to Linux is *EASIER* than switching to Windows 8.
I put Mint on a laptop for my wife, who is NOT an IT person, and it took her
about 5 seconds to learn. Mint uses a GUI that is as close to Windows 7 as can
be and far easier to use than 8.
I had to get rid of Windows 8 on a new laptop fo
I need to secure the keel stepped mast to the step to comply with the
offshore sailing regs. The mast sits in the base about 1.5 inches. I'm
thinking of bolting 2 short tangs to the base and running a bolt or
threaded rod through the mast and tangs. Luckily, the wires exit at the
cabin top, so t
Everything Joe said about Mint is basically the same for Ubuntu. Both can
be downloaded for free and run from a CD so I suggest trying both. Ubuntu
tries to "advertise" that they have better long term support and regular
periodic updates, but who knows. As easy as they both are it probably
doesn
Great machine and 1800s are still in use.
Not all of them were quite so reliable in 65 when I started on tab machines and
computers.
Now to bring things back to at least marine related.
IBM had one of the less reliable in a unit record machine 557 that if you
filled with concrete and threw i
"Haywire" - perhaps a little dated now, as in "gone haywire",
"Close enough for farm use", a couple of my favourites.
But for boats, "flakey" should be the correct term.
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 02:10:47 -0500
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> Subject: Stus-List PC for "cheap"
> From: cnc-
If you live around Annapolis,, then "Weems Creek Engineering" says it all LOL.
Joe Della Barba Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:06 AM
To: Stews List
Subject: Re: Stus-List PC for "cheap"
"Haywire" - perhaps a li
Why do my replies to the list show up as being from "via CnC-List" in stead of
from yours truly?What am I doing wrong? Something has gone haywire. Steve
ThomasC&C27MKIII
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Why do my replies to the list show up as being from "via CnC-List" in stead of
from yours truly?
What am I doing wrong?
Something has gone haywire.
It’s a work-around fix for Yahoo’s DMARC problems.
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There are so many problems with Yahoo that perhaps the listers using them
should consider changing instead of inconveniencing you and others.
Rich
> On May 16, 2014, at 11:29, Stu via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Why do my replies to the list show up as being from "via CnC-List" in stead
> of from yo
I need to replace the stuffing box hose. Boat (30-1) is on the hard and I
have the new Buck Algonquin hose, new packing, new clamps. Anyone have
advice re removal of the forward prop shaft coupling? It is disconnected
from the transmission and I've pulled the prop shaft aft, so there is some
cleara
I don't use Yahoo.
My ISP is sympatico, which uses the Microsoft Hotmail (live.com) server.
I see everyone else's names, is it just mine that appears this way?
Is there something I can do to fix this?
Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 11:41:49 -0300
To: stumurra...@gmail.com; cn
Steve
You are Special.
Mike
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CnC-List
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 12:03 PM
To: Stews List
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I don't use Yahoo.
My ISP is sympatico, which uses the Microsoft Hotmail (live.com) server.
Some people have had success by positioning a nut that is smaller than the prop
shaft, in between the coupling and then using the coupling bolts to force the
prop shaft out. A suitable piece of sheet metal on the transmission side will
ensure that the right shaft gets dislodged.
Steve Thomas
That pretty much describes how the factory did it on our 37.
To be more exact, in our case it is a "U"shaped bracket that is bolted down
to the metal mast step. The tangs of this bracket stick up about 8". The
mast slips over this when the mast is set into the boat, so the bracket is
hidden up i
Then to save the trouble next time, get a split coupling for the shaft.
On May 16, 2014 11:10 AM, "via CnC-List" wrote:
> Some people have had success by positioning a nut that is smaller than the
> prop shaft, in between the coupling and then using the coupling bolts to
> force the prop shaft ou
Nate,
This has come up before. I think the best advice (not mine) was to put a
socket slightly smaller than the shaft against the end of the shaft and
tighten the bolts on the coupling to force out the shaft.
Joel.
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-lis
I think it would be reasonable to ban yahoo email accounts from the
list. This is not the first time yahoo has done something to break
everybody else's lists. I'm using an sbcglobal email address, which is
operated through yahoo. I would have no real problem getting a gmail
account and re-subsc
I had problems with gmail so I switched back to yahoo. Would prefer to stay
there.
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:22:29 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Why via? - yahoo breaks email lists
I think it would be r
The header on all list emails has been change to “via cnc-list”. It is a fix
in our software that circumvents Yahoo’s DMARC installation.
So far it is working. Since the change, we have not had 1 subscriber bounced –
including those with Yahoo accounts.
You will also notice that at the bottom
You are too young, by at least 10 years ;-)
Leslie
DP training started on punch-card sorting machines...
On Fri, 5/16/14, Dave Godwin via CnC-List wrote:
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To: "Dave Godwin" , cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Frid
Can be a tough job. On Windburn I pulled the shaft a couple of years ago ensure
it could be removed in the water if it every was required.
On my C&C 30-1 the dimensions are:
Shaft - 7/8" diameter
Coupling - 3 1/2" outside diameter, three bolt holes
Coupling - 1 5/8" inside machined cavity - 5/8"
Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then
1130.
Gary (retired IBM)
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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 5:33 AM
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IBM 1130
Steve Thom
> Come on, kids IBM punch cards, followed by a 1401 card system, 1440, then
> 1130.
How about:
DR, Sextant, RDF, LORAN, Sat Nav, GPS ...
Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gar
I'll raise you DR from Cape May to Newport on a wooden ketch with a kerosene
stove and an AM marine radio.
Joe Della Barba Coquina
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DeYoung via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:27 PM
To: Gary Nylander; cnc-list@cnc-li
I'll call that. Marina Del Rey to Ensenada on a Kettenburg 41 with the same
'electronics'.
Gary
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List java updates
I'll raise you DR from
At least you could use the AM radio as a RDF in a pinch… :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On May 16, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List
wrote:
> I'll call that. Marina Del Rey to Ensenada on a Kettenburg 41 with
> I'll raise you DR from Cape May to Newport on a wooden ketch with a kerosene
> stove and an AM marine radio.
> Marina Del Rey to Ensenada on a Kettenburg 41 with the same 'electronics'.
Aye, but were the sails cotton or polyester? (Bonus points for scratchy wool
clothes.)
Martin
Calypso
1971
a word of caution – be very careful with how you tighten the nuts. It never
happened to me, but I read of people who managed to deform the coupling (on the
transmission) in the process.
Marek
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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 11:16 AM
To: Nate Flesness ; cnc-list@cnc-l
Not THAT kind - the kind that had tubes and was a transceiver. They transmitted
AM between 2 and 3 MHz. I think they were technically illegal when we did that
trip, but the USCG still monitored 2182 KHz. I think even to this day marine
SSB sets have an AM equivalent mode for 2182 even though the
Maine Sail has written about this:
http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/new_shaft
Ken H.
On 16 May 2014 12:16, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
> Then to save the trouble next time, get a split coupling for the shaft.
> On May 16, 2014 11:10 AM, "via CnC-List" wrote:
>
>> Some people have had s
Slide rule.
Remember the maneuvering board for navigation? All manual with circular slide
rules built in.
Ron
C&C 30
STL
PS Checking whether the "fixes" work with yahoo.
Come on, kids IBM punch cards,
followed by a 1401 card
system, 1440, then 1130.
Gary (retired IBM)
did you have a paddlewheel log (or taffrail log) or used the manual chip log
for your speed?
Marek
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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:37 PM
To: Della Barba, Joe ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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I'll call that. Marina Del Rey to Ensenada on
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Leslie Paal via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> You are too young, by at least 10 years ;-)
>
>
That's 2 in decimal.
Back in the day,
"We programmed in 1's and 0's."
"Well, we had to program in 1's"
"We only had "el's""
(From an old Dilbert)
Bob
Is it still winter up there?
Just waiting for hurricane season to kick in so I can ride the
southerlies out of the zone.
Wal
you wrote:
Switching to Linux is*EASIER* than switching to Windows 8.
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I used a 3 arm puller, PB blaster, a blowtorch, and the largest wrench I
could fit on the puller, with a pipe on that as an extension. I had a
12" adjustable wrench wedged in to keep the shaft from turning (the
puller would have turned with it). The adjustable wrench now has a very
impressive
Geez Missed the 088 card sorter . I may still have a programming
manual for the 1130 and 1800 ..
Paul Fountain
Managing Director
SeaSource Inc.
Bookkeeping & IT Services.
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Nylander via CnC-List
Sent: May 16, 201
This photo was taken yesterday at my marina:
My launch date is now in mid-June...
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On May 16, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List
wrote:
> Is it still winter up there?
>
> Just waiting
If all else fails, cut it in half and buy a new one. :)
Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 16, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> I used a 3 arm puller, PB blaster, a blowtorch, and the largest wrench I
> could fit on the puller, wit
Ouch. I just got back from a couple of days on the boat. I had to stay down
below for much of the afternoon yesterday with fans running because of the
oppressive heat and lack of wind.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 16 May 2014 13:52, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrot
It's nice here in St. Margaret's Bay...nice to see sails on the Bay
again...I don't launch Alianna until 18 June so my season will be shorter
this year but I like the warm days in May and early June on land now that I
am older with so many years of early season sailing behind me
-Original Mess
I’m getting set up to do the same thing and from my investigations and
discussions with local marine mechanics, I’ve determined:
1) The coupling would be a tolerance fit.
2) Cutting the old coupling off is the quickest method and you should do
that at the keyway to minimize the potential f
DYI - Damn Yankee Ingenuity.
We C&Cers have tremendous platforms for tinkering - old but solid design
and construction. And, aesthetically correct.
Some like to tinker moving cars and travellers. Others change rudders, rigs
and keels. It's all fun.
Maybe you're thinking about something like the
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