Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread David Risch
OK...I gotta ask. I have a 1981 3QM30. Purrs like a kitten. No glow plug. Start up cold just fine. Just a few more cranks.Before this engine I thought all diesels had glow plugs. What gives? David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 04:07:54 + From: cscheaf...@

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread Joel Aronson
yanmars do not. Joel Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2013, at 7:58 AM, David Risch wrote: OK...I gotta ask. I have a 1981 3QM30. Purrs like a kitten. No glow plug. Start up cold just fine. Just a few more cranks.Before this engine I thought all diesels had glow plugs. What gives? Dav

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread Steve Thomas
It may be because these engines are not designed to start in really cold conditions. Inboard marine engines are seldom asked to start at much below the freezing point. Steve Thomas Yanmar YSB12 Port Stanley, ON -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Be

Stus-List A4 Blues

2013-05-16 Thread Damien Morrissey
Bob M. I had a full season of A4 issues last year and finally found a mechanic who was willing and able to visit the 'ole gal and diagnose my engine issues. These issues were related to smooth and consistant running, especially when it was warmed up. He found the problems were all related the ign

Re: Stus-List Overheating due to plugged knuckle

2013-05-16 Thread Gary Nylander
Someone had a source of Yanmar exhaust risers (other than Mack Boring). My old black pipe version decided to rust apart yesterday. I have it patched for a while, but that is going to be a short term solution. Before I build a new black pipe version, I would like to check out a 'real' one. Ga

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread Bill Coleman
The answer is, 'whatever it takes' My old Perkins had no glo plugs, My understanding is that the compression was so high that it didn't need them. I started it up in 35 degree weather when it was well over 30 years old. Just experiment with your glo plugs and only activate them to where your engi

Re: Stus-List A4 Blues

2013-05-16 Thread Bill Bina
A big note of caution is needed when using automotive parts in a marine application: "One of the most common questions my marina customers ask me on a daily basis is what is the difference between marine and auto parts. Many people will ask for a part and when given a price will tell me that t

Stus-List Polyurethane on Floorboards

2013-05-16 Thread Edd Schillay
Listers, We're just about done withe the floorboard restoration and wanted some advice regarding adding polyurethane to get that sealed glossy look. I've put on two coats already with a soft bristle brush and it's looking blotchy in places. One of my crew said you just need to add more

Re: Stus-List Overheating due to plugged knuckle

2013-05-16 Thread Prime Interest
>From an earlier note : "Hi, I just wanted to point out that many of the Yanmar exhaust parts are available at much more reasonable price. For example, the common mixing elbow (124070-13520 Mixing Elbow) which Bob pointed out lists for $270, can be purchased much cheaper from several vendors.

Re: Stus-List Polyurethane on Floorboards

2013-05-16 Thread Steve Thomas
Always use a brush for varnish, and try not to brush it out any more than the minimum required to eliminate drips. Otherwise you can get bubbles in the finish. Take it easy if you stir it, for the same reason. Yes, several coats are often necessary. I find it works best to time the coats accordin

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread Frederick G Street
Unless you sail on Lake Superior… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 16, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Steve Thomas wrote: > It may be because these engines are not designed to start in really cold > conditions. Inboard marine en

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread dwight veinot
Fred Do you guys really start your engines and go sailing at temperatures below the freezing point of water up there on Superior.tough guys but I guess you just have to dress as if you were going skiing. I did that in early spring and late fall seasons for a few years a long time ago when I was

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread Curtis
My Yanmar 2GM dont have them and dont need them. In south Carolina where the temp is always higher than my age they start up with no problems. On 5/16/13, David Risch wrote: > OK...I gotta ask. > > I have a 1981 3QM30. Purrs like a kitten. > > No glow plug. Start up cold just fine. Just a few

Re: Stus-List Disconnecting Shrouds

2013-05-16 Thread Curtis
Same on my C&C30MK1 On 5/15/13, dwight veinot wrote: > Bob > > > > I think these” tubes” are properly called turn buckle boots and they have > boot caps which usually are split…on Alianna I tape the split caps fast to > the boot because the sail and sheet action cause them to ride up the > shroud

Re: Stus-List Overheating due to plugged knuckle

2013-05-16 Thread Fred Hazzard
As always Terry your convoluted advise is a BIG help. NOT! Fast Freddie From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Terry Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Overheating due to plugged knuckle Fred, the older

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread Don Wagner
Just a few comments regarding the use of Glow Plugs.. I vaguely recall reading in a diesel book, that modern designs of the heads and injectors on a diesel do not require glow plugs. I had Caterpiller 3208Ts on a trawler (320 HP) and they did not have glow plugs. I never had any problems startin

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread Frederick G Street
We don't necessarily do it on purpose… but I've been on Lake Superior doing a delivery the second week of October; the weather started out pretty nice, but by the time we got east to Munising, MI an early-season blizzard was blowing up. So we put in there for a few days. Lots of snow, really c

Stus-List Marine vs Automotive parts

2013-05-16 Thread Damien Morrissey
Thanks Bill Bina for the explanation - excerpt below .. I knew there had to be a better reason that just gouging us ""rich" boating types As for the parts I needed for the Atomic 4 engine, the parts list I used came from Stu's list on the C&C Photoalbum and I thought they were the right ones.

Re: Stus-List Marine vs Automotive parts

2013-05-16 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Marine starters, alternators, distributors, carbs, and fuel hoses all have one or more safety features not found on the auto version. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Damien Morrissey Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:00 PM To: CnC-List@cnc-list.co

Re: Stus-List Marine vs Automotive parts

2013-05-16 Thread dwight veinot
If it matters to you Damien I always used NAPA or AC Delco parts on the Atomic 4 in my 27 when I owned that boat, but I changed things like plugs, condenser, points, rotor button and distributor cap out at the start of every season and did a proper dwell angle set on the points and timing on the di

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread Curtis
Yea its the pre-cupped vr. Direct injection. pre-Cupped had glow plug rail the DI did not. On 5/16/13, Don Wagner wrote: > Just a few comments regarding the use of Glow Plugs.. > I vaguely recall reading in a diesel book, that modern designs of the heads > > and injectors on a diesel do not requ

Re: Stus-List Polyurethane on Floorboards

2013-05-16 Thread Graham Collins
If you can get it in spray cans, sand your last brushed on coat smooth and then spray a top coat. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2013-05-16 10:13 AM, Edd Schillay wrote: Listers, We're just about done withe the floorboard restoration and wanted some advice regarding adding pol

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread Jake Brodersen
Someday I will retrofit a glow plug into the intake manifold. It will certainly help with starting. The Cummins diesels use a heating grid in the intake manifold to warm the incoming air. Just the type of thing needed to start a cold diesel. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight

Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal

2013-05-16 Thread Rick Brass
Some diesels don't use glow plugs. Normally they are direct injection and have higher compression than engines that use glow plugs. Requires a more powerful starter, faster crank speed, they are harder to start but easier to get compliance with emissions standards. Engines with glow plugs are n

Re: Stus-List Marine vs Automotive parts

2013-05-16 Thread Michael Cotton
AC Delco is GM's OE supplier. NAPA is an aftermarket supplier. They are not equal. AC Delco is a superior product. I have no interest in either company.  I do have 40 experience in the automotive service industry. Michael Cotton Hunter 23, S/V High Cotton Denver Co >_