Yea its the pre-cupped vr. Direct injection. pre-Cupped had glow plug rail the DI did not.
On 5/16/13, Don Wagner <donwag...@comcast.net> wrote: > Just a few comments regarding the use of Glow Plugs.. > I vaguely recall reading in a diesel book, that modern designs of the heads > > and injectors on a diesel do not require glow plugs. > I had Caterpiller 3208Ts on a trawler (320 HP) and they did not have glow > plugs. > I never had any problems starting them, even in below freezing weather. They > > always started promptly on the 1st engine rotation. > This CAT design was essentially the same as the design used on big trucks, > earth movers, etc > > I have also read (somewhere, not sure where) that if an engine has a glow > plug, you should hold it depressed as suggested by the manual, but should > not have it depressed when starting. The reason given was that the extra > stress on the red hot glow plug during start up will reduce the lifetime of > > the glow plug. > > Does anyone have any experience with that?? > > Don Wagner > C&C 41 CB > Yanmar 3HM35F-- no glow plugs > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Curtis" <cpt.b...@gmail.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:15 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal > > > My Yanmar 2GM dont have them and dont need them. In south Carolina > where the temp is always higher than my age they start up with no > problems. > > On 5/16/13, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: >> OK...I gotta ask. >> >> I have a 1981 3QM30. Purrs like a kitten. >> >> No glow plug. Start up cold just fine. Just a few more cranks. >> Before >> this engine I thought all diesels had glow plugs. >> >> What gives? >> >> >> David F. Risch >> (401) 419-4650 (cell) >> >> >> Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 04:07:54 +0000 >> From: cscheaf...@comcast.net >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Starting a Universal >> >> David, >> The glow plugs are only needed when the engine is cold. I hold that glow >> plug button for at least 30secs. Rule of Thumb: Take 100, subtract the >> water temp and hold it for those seconds, and you should be good for a >> first >> try. If the water is 40 F, hold the button for 60 seconds. If the water >> >> is >> 70, hold for 30 seconds. Count 1000 one, 1000 two and so on, or use a >> watch. >> >> Once the engine starts and has warmed up, we go sailing, shutdown the >> engine >> and later I restart the engine without needing glowplugs. >> >> >> Chuck >> Resolute >> 1990 C&C 34R >> Atlantic City, NJ >> From: "David Knecht" <davidakne...@gmail.com> >> To: "CnC CnC discussion list" <CnC-List@cnc-list.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:51:50 PM >> Subject: Stus-List Starting a Universal >> >> I have only had a few tries at starting the M430 engine on my new boat, >> and >> I have been told several different stories. One person said to hold the >> glow plug button for 5-10 seconds and then start. Another said 30 >> seconds >> on the glow plug and then leave the button pushed while also pushing the >> starter. The latter worked when I was first starting the engine after >> the >> winter while plugged into shore power. Yesterday I started it for the >> first >> time without shore power and found that the starter did not kick at all if >> >> I >> started while also holding the glow plug button. Started find when I let >> >> go >> the glow plug button. What is the "normal" starting procedure with a >> cold >> engine in cool weather. Warm weather? Warm engine? Thanks- Dave >> >> >> David KnechtAries1990 C&C 34+New London, CT >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > -- > “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to > change; the realist adjusts the sails.” > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
