, PA
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"In light air and flat water the barn door trim seems to be th
, August 24, 2016 10:50 AM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole
Hi Rick,
I am not familiar with the rule of thumb for optimum whisker pole length,
though it looks like
the geometry is setting the pole at right angles to the boat, and
If you are in a phrf region that doesn't limit the whisker pole to the J
measurement it may well be faster to go dead downwind poled out.
Since under LakevMichigan phrf we are limited to J I have had success with
gybing downwind. BUT, it requires that you know and apply your Polars to the
co
d, Aug 24, 2016 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole
"In light air and flat water the barn door trim seems to be the fastest."
It's been my observation that that's how the most experienced and winningest
JAM boat skippers and crews in my club run d
ruising chute; don't bother. Turns out
they're only about a 160% and not much better than your genny, unless it's
really light.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL
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30-1 #7
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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:49:47 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole
Hi Rick,
I am not familiar with the rule of
For what its worth, Forespar gives whisker pole sizing info for C&C:
http://www.forespar.com/products/sail-spinnaker-pole-size-guide.shtml
In PHRF Long Island Sound, the max whisker pole length is equal to your
LP measurement. If you use your J-length spinnaker pole instead, PHRF
LIS gives yo
Hi Rick,
I am not familiar with the rule of thumb for optimum whisker pole length,
though it looks like
the geometry is setting the pole at right angles to the boat, and the jib holds
a 60 degree angle
at the tack.
For light air dead run I set the jib at 90 degrees to the centerline to
max
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole
My SPL is 13'4" and my J is 13'6". I used the spin pole to pole out my 155%
genoa running wing and wing, and it stretch
Cheers,
Randy
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:47:34 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole
If the desired effect is to have both the main and genoa p
s being spilled off. The line control pole is
adjustable so
I can find a spot to raise the spinnaker car to that provides the combination
of downward
angle and distance needed.
Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:10 PM
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S
whisker pole length is 80% of LP), my spin
pole is ~4" too long as a whisker pole for my 155.
Cheers,
Randy
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Spin or whisker pole longer than J is subject to penalty in most areas
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Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 1:33:25 PM
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"If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on
centerline and using
a pole like you would use a whisker pole on a headsail I
guess that
would work but as pointed out is not legal under common
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole
I poled out my 155% genoa last night with the spin pole, because I don't have a
whisker pole, and I found the spin pole to be almos
erker"
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"If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on centerline and using
a pole like you would use a whisker pole on a headsail I guess that
would work but as pointed out is not leg
fractional chute on the 24.
Gary
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"If yo
"If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on centerline and using
a pole like you would use a whisker pole on a headsail I guess that
would work but as pointed out is not legal under common Racing
Rules of Sailing."
I've found the spin pole is too short for use as a whisker pole even when
I have both symm and asymm spinnakers flying from a pole. I assume
you mean to connect a guy to the spinnaker tack and pole that out.
The symm is better from 120 AWA to 180 AWA, the asymm starts to
work as well tighter than 120 AWA.
If you are considering leaving the asymm tack on centerline and u
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Mike's advice is spot on. If your thinking of using the pole as to :"wing out"
the asym as you might do with a genoa; this would be total
Mike's advice is spot on. If your thinking of using the pole as to :"wing
out" the asym as you might do with a genoa; this would be totally illegal.
The pole could only be used to attach the tack of the sail while the clew
must remain free-flying. PHRF regulations generally state that there be no
o
Gary, St. Michaels MD
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> I think yo
will get penalized.
Gary, St. Michaels MD
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I think you'll fin
e any fun though
Mike
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Subject: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole
I race on Wednesday nights on the Bohemia River in Maryland a
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I think you'll find that at typical spinnaker pole is too short. Spin poles
are roughly equal to the "J" length.
I think you'll find that at typical spinnaker pole is too short. Spin
poles are roughly equal to the "J" length. As I understand it an asym pole
should be roughly the same length as the foot.
I just bought a whisker pole from forespar. The website has lots of
guidance regarding recommended pole
I race on Wednesday nights on the Bohemia River in Maryland and lately the race
committee has been doing a better job having a windward start and a down wind
leg. Unfortunately, I use an assymetrical spinnaker which does very poorly dead
down wind, even gybing has not helped. One of my crew was
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