If sailing at the right angles I believe you can be competitive....somewhat. 
What was the true wind speed usually. Say on a frustrating night?  Are you 
trying to follow the symmetrical chutes to the leeward mark at the same angle? 
In anything but a good blow you should be sailing a much higher angle and 
therefore gybing more. It will feel very very strange when you are doing it 
right, like at the right angles. 

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> On Jun 17, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Two friends, who are now getting ready to start the Newport to Bermuda race 
> on their Cal 40s,  carry both symmetrical and asymmetrical chutes. They use 
> their pole with both. When they have variable conditions and the wind is from 
> the beam and moving back and forth, they can put the asym on the pole and 
> bring it back when necessary, but can bring it to the forestay for reaching.
>  
> The rules (PHRF Chesapeake) penalize for both spinnakers (3 sec) and have 
> more penalties for poles longer than J. If you use a whisker pole, you have 
> to mark it at the J measurement and not go longer or you will get penalized.
>  
> Gary, St. Michaels MD
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
> Muckley via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 11:54 AM
> To: C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole
>  
> I think you'll find that at typical spinnaker pole is too short.  Spin poles 
> are roughly equal to the "J" length.  As I understand it an asym pole should 
> be roughly the same length as the foot.
> 
> I just bought a whisker pole from forespar.  The website has lots of guidance 
> regarding recommended pole length.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> On Jun 17, 2016 11:45 AM, "TOM VINCENT via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> I race on Wednesday nights on the Bohemia River in Maryland and lately the 
> race committee has been doing a better job having a windward start and a down 
> wind leg. Unfortunately, I use an assymetrical spinnaker which does very 
> poorly dead down wind, even gybing has not helped. One of my crew was 
> wondering if we used a regular spinnaker pole, if it would help us down wind. 
> I was wondering if anyone on the forum has any experience using a pole with 
> an assymetrical spinnaker.
>  
> Tom Vincent
> Frolic II, C&C 36 cb
> Chesapeake City, MD
> 
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