Have you guys ever seen the Y-flyers sail downwind?  Here in the US they don't 
use chutes, but they have an extra long whisker pole and they actually wing it 
forward of the 90deg mark.  They then sail at a broad reach instead of a 
run.There was an article in Sailing World that suggested it for big boats.  
Can't find it right now so don't know the circumstances, whether it was for 
more modern designs with the larger mains or all types.Haven't tried it on my 
30, but then I race with others more these days.BTW found out something 
interesting about racing with the cruising chute; don't bother.  Turns out 
they're only about a 160% and not much better than your genny, unless it's 
really light.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL


      From: RANDY via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net>; Michael Brown <m...@tkg.ca>
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole
   
"In light air and flat water the barn door trim seems to be the fastest."
It's been my observation that that's how the most experienced and winningest 
JAM boat skippers and crews in my club run downwind in their Catalina 27s, 
Ranger 26, and Cal 22 - wing and wing, headsail poled out.  They must believe 
that's fastest, and they've passed me doing it while I was broad reaching and 
gybing downwind.  Made a believer out of me, so I did the "if you can't lick 
'em, join 'em" thing.
Cheers,Randy StaffordS/V GrenadineC&C 30-1 #7Ken Caryl, CO
   
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