Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Thanks Nathan and Rob for the details on these. Unfortunately, mine are completely gone, and it's hard to tell where they once were, although under the right light I can see a few clues on the deck. I'm a bit done with boat projects now after 4-5 months, but maybe next winter I'll investigate more.

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
I have a copy of the same letter that came with our 35-2, #270. I also have a table showing the pressures vs lbs force. I'll try to remember to share it. Some great insight on this thread! Our backstay adjuster needs a rebuild, and won't go beyond about 800psi, but that is still enough to make the

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
Maybe a large, better quality jpg can be added to the website info. . . > On Jun 10, 2020, at 7:38 16PM, david--- via CnC-List > wrote: > > I am not sure this picture will be small enough for the list. When I bought > my 35-2, I found a memo from C&C in the nav table saying the maximum back

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
David, Thanks, Never saw that piece of insight.  I have no idea how accurate the 47 year old backstay gage is.  Those are relative settings that feel right.  Have not folded the boat in half nor driven the mast thru the keel  - yet! Don Kern /Fireball,/ C&C35 Mk2 Bristol RI On 6/10/2020 10:

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread david--- via CnC-List
I am not sure this picture will be small enough for the list. When I bought my 35-2, I found a memo from C&C in the nav table saying the maximum back stay tension is 2050 pounds David Kelly Baraka C&C 35-2 Noroton, CT > On Jun 10, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Don Kern via CnC-List > wrote: > >  > B

Re: Stus-List CnC 39 vs 37

2020-06-10 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
You can compare these boats' predicted sailing characteristics using the sailing calculator on the cncphotalbumn site under technical data. I think it does a pretty good job for the C&C boats I know. Still there is the appearance factor for some of usthe shear lines of the old 39 are classic

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
My MKII 35 too On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:51 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > My 35 MK I has been a bit flexible and creaky for 47 years now, so it > seems to have worked out. Thanks for that explanation! > > > > > > *Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I* > > *www

Re: Stus-List Re fiddle castings.

2020-06-10 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List
There was another option at some point. When "Third Wave" (a 37R I believe) was parted out I bought the fiddles from it thinking I might replace the couple of mine that are corroded (the one closest to the companionway ladder, for example). The ones off Third Wave are plastic, with the top se

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
Bailey I have one of those earlier C&C 35 Mk2 ('74 #255) and have _not_ tried to attach the bulkheads to the overhead.  She does work in heavy air.  Two years ago the original outboard holding tank failed, which I had to remove by dismantling the head's bulkheads and cabinetry.  I replaced al

Stus-List Brendon Dobroth?

2020-06-10 Thread Steve Martin via CnC-List
I'm looking for contact info for Brendon Dobroth, I believe he did the design for the keel on my C&C 44 and I'm looking for the drawings. Any help would be appreciated!ThanksSteve Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android___ Thanks everyone for supporting this

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
One strange looking keel... https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rHnWif-WO_I/WpMjx2P9d-I/AAABsVM/j0JahatW9CgQfrQN7O-a7GTWgDUx_fgDgCEwYBhgL/s1600/Wave%2BTrain%2B-My%2BShadow%2B%2B3.jpg Ken H. On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 16:59, Rob Ball via CnC-List wrote: > But it had a Super Duper Brit Chance keel . . .

Re: Stus-List CnC 39 vs 37

2020-06-10 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
It just sails pretty good. One thing that jumped out at me when I was on his 37, ( and also the custom 42) is how much more roomy it was. You pay a price for interior volume. The brochure lists the 39 at around 17,700#, but the scales were saying something south of 21,000. It also has the ta

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
But it had a Super Duper Brit Chance keel . . . . . . ? Rob BallC&C 34 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contrib

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
My brand new to me 1981 40 with tired sails either stayed with or beat Wave Train boat for boat (without handicap) around the cans consistently. Owner was a really good sailor who was not happy with the boat.I was the last straw. He sold it soon thereafter. Failed experiment… David F. R

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Hi Rob, I recall C&C did that at the factory for Watt Webb's 37R "Wave Trane". There is a drawing for the boat showing the addition of a waterproof crash bulkhead forward, all interior bulkheads tabbed to the deck above, an upgraded deck and bulkhead construction, and a weird custom Britt Chance

Re: Stus-List CnC 39 vs 37

2020-06-10 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Bill, I noted your story about your crew owning a 37 (not a 37+, or 37R, I presume), and not being able to keep up with interest; per Sailboat data, the 37 and 39 have almost exactly the same sail area, but the 39 is a much heavier boat and is pushing more weight; the conclusion would be that e

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-10 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
So, when you said a couple weeks ago, you bumped some rocks and were selling your Genoa, I am guessing it was a little more serious than you let on. And you may have lost your 41. Never been on a 41, but by what I see on YW, I would say you may miss the extra space. But on the bright side, you

Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

2020-06-10 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
I believe you may be right. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 11:35 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please Ummm . . . I don’t mean to ruffle any feathers Matt, but my recollection is

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
I sailed on a 40 and we cut the headliner back about 4 inches from the bulkhead – and taped the bulkhead to the deck. Then used wood to fill in the headliner afterwards . . . Not that hard, but labor intensive . . . . Rob Ball C&C 34 ___ Thanks ever

Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Josh I took a picture of the carb. Thats my cell below. I can send it to you to discuss however, I think I know where it is. FYI. Carb cleaned, fuel lines tank pickup all replaced. Thanks in advance. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sen

Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
A partially blocked main jet could cause carb to run lean on the top end. Mixture and idle screws don’t adjust anything above the midrange of the power band. A fine wire can be used to clear any debris that could block fuel flow through the jet. Also check the float level. If the float is s

Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I keep a jug of it for my lawnmower. It is amazing how trouble free it is without car gas in it. On the other side of the equation I know someone who decided to use car gas in a seaplane and sure enough it came home one day at the end of a towline. Ethanol defeats the water separators airplanes

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Bailey White via CnC-List
Has anyone added material to tie the bulkheads to the liners for those earlier boats? I wasn't sure if the liner could take it or if some work would need to be done to grind out the liner and fiberglass directly to the hull laminate, which would be more involved and error prone. -- Forwar

Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Year and serial number would probably help. On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 11:45 David Risch via CnC-List wrote: > Thanks Josh > > > > Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle. I can get serial number if you need more info… > > > > *David F. Risch* > > *(401) 419-4650* > > > > *From:* CnC-List *On Behalf Of *Josh > Muckley

Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Thanks Josh Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle. I can get serial number if you need more info… David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:36 AM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle David, There

Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
I use it for the no ethanol component. Hate ethanol… David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:38 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle Avgas is in 100 octane LL?

Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Avgas is in 100 octane LL? That will eventually lead foul the spark plug, so you’ll need to check it every so often. On the plus side it doesn’t have stink perfume added to it, so if you spill it on yourself you won’t stink all day. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I www.dellabarba.com Fro

Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
David, There has to be an orifice (jet) or screw. Are you sure a screw isn't hidden under a plastic cowl? Get me an exact make and model so I can do some research. Josh On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 08:08 David Risch via CnC-List wrote: > Josh and Chuck, > > > > Mixture is new with AV gas so no is

Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
Hi David, It does sound like it's running lean on the high end. The solution is likely to be related to a fuel flow problem like a clogged carburetor jet or obstruction / air leak / weak point in the fuel delivery system such as a clogged filter / fuel pickup / regulator / missing gasket / dried

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
My 35 MK I has been a bit flexible and creaky for 47 years now, so it seems to have worked out. Thanks for that explanation! Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I www.dellabarba.com ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions

Re: Stus-List Rob Ball comment on 41 "robustness"

2020-06-10 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
Earlier C&C’s had the bulkheads ‘floating’ in the headliner groove, and as we got into larger sizes (bigger loads) those tie downs were the solution. On the C&C 40, there were a lot of warranty claims for those leaks, and eventually it was decided to stiffen up things to prevent this. The first

Re: Stus-List Re fiddle castings.

2020-06-10 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
We switched to laminated corners in more recent boats. I would love to do that on my boat, but it looks challenging . . . . Rob Ball C&C 34 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreci

Re: Stus-List Re fiddle castings.

2020-06-10 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Chuck, No need for pics for me. My 35-1 doesn't have those corner fittings. I was just curious about alternative fixes. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:58 AM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Dennis, > > My Landfall 35 has t

Re: Stus-List Yamaha 4hp 2 cycle

2020-06-10 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Josh and Chuck, Mixture is new with AV gas so no issues there. Only one adjustment screw on carb. Seems to only affect low throttle. As said all good in neutral and good up until ¾ throttle in gear. Chuck mentioned if spark plug grey and chalky, which it is, it is running lean at top end.

Re: Stus-List Re fiddle castings.

2020-06-10 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Dennis, My Landfall 35 has the same corner fixture at the Nav Station but made from wood (teak or mahogany I believe). Rob Ball was on our boat last week and made mention of the piece. Our boat was built in Rhode Island when Barry Carroll was running the operation down there, but I doubt that