Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Polars

2018-11-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
This topic is about 2 years old. I finally got a chance to play with the polars for the 37+. I use an Android app called SailGrib WR. It downloads grib files and then performs routing based on expected wind and boat performance. It requires the boat's polar data to be provided in order to be accur

Stus-List digest ejection!?!

2018-11-04 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Might be. I had that happen to me after a inadvertent “digest post” a week or so ago. After I posted I started getting a peach email. It took mere a while to find the digest delivery button on the last web site. It had got turned off. I turned it back on and it’s been all good since then.

Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Obviously, if you have a gin-pole, it is a different story. Marek From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Ed dooley via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 23:02 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ed dooley Subject: Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast I unstep and step the mast on my 24 with 2 people and my h

Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Ed dooley via CnC-List
I unstep and step the mast on my 24 with 2 people and my homemade a-frame gin pole. We use the same gin pole to step and unstep my friend's Morgan 25. Ed > On Nov 4, 2018, at 9:56 PM, Marek Dziedzic wrote: > > ...Btw. On my old 24 the mast was like a tree trunk. I would not attempt to > step

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
I’ll try them! Thank you Marek!C Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 9:58 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote: #yiv9766068990 #yiv9766068990 -- _filtered #yiv9766068990 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv9766068990 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Try The Ottawa Chandlery or Marine Outfitters (Kingston). They both sell the kits and I think have better prices. Marek Ottawa, ON Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: CnC-List on behalf of Chris Graham via CnC-Li

Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
I'll second the ATN mast climber. It works well enough once you get the hang of it but unless you are fairly athletic, be prepared to make rest stops. It is more of an upper body workout than it appears in the video. Steve Thomas "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" wrote: If you plan t

Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I was never a fan of either being hoisted or hoisting some up the mast. This is really hard work for the person on the winch. I like the electric winch hoisting even less, but YMMV. I also believe that any “climbing” gear is much better than similar “sailing” gear, so I would prefer a climbing

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Looks like the binnacle site crashed :/ Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 6:21 PM, Chris Graham wrote: Thanks Dennis!!! I did the final rinse with simple green. The brakekleen worked about as well as the Naptha I used on the other one! Took me half as long to brea

Stus-List Interior

2018-11-04 Thread Pat via CnC-List
Hello, New owner here of a C&C 34 with my husband Rob, in Dartmouth, Massachusetts. Does anyone have suggestions for replacing and/or recovering the interior cushions? Where to get it done, prices, fabric preferences, color preferences, any Photos? Not do it yourself, thank you. Pa

Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread James Hesketh via CnC-List
ALAN wrote: > If you use someone to hoist you up the mast, tie the halyard to you or to > your climbing gear, rather than using the shackle that's on the halyard. > Don't let anyone stand under you while you're going up or while you're at > the top, just in case you drop something. A friend of m

Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Joseph Bognar via CnC-List
I had a 24 years ago . Three men can drop and raise the mast by hand . I also have a ladder called a Mast Mate . It’s made from webbing and has sail slugs to help raise it up . I have used that to go aloft on my 24 several times Sent from Joe Bognar > On Nov 4, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Marek Dziedzi

Stus-List digest ejection!?!

2018-11-04 Thread rick bushie via CnC-List
For the last few days I’ve been receiving individual messages instead of the digest. Is this possibly a result of forgetting to change out a subject line? I did apologize as soon as I realized what I had done. I’ll apologize again if that’ll help! _

Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
If you use someone to hoist you up the mast, tie the halyard to you or to your climbing gear, rather than using the shackle that's on the halyard. Don't let anyone stand under you while you're going up or while you're at the top, just in case you drop something. A friend of mine ;loaned me his hal

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Thanks Dennis!!! I did the final rinse with simple green. The brakekleen worked about as well as the Naptha I used on the other one! Took me half as long to break it down and clean it all.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 6:01 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
I’ll look for some  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:33 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote: I think I got some at Home Depot.  I use it for turnbuckles. From: Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:00 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc:

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
This is awesome! Thanks :) Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 4:32 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: This is the home page.  It says you can buy it online or at PepBoys, NAPA, AutoZone... And a few others. https://www.greengrease.net Josh  On Sun, Nov 4, 2018,

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Wander the piers during the summer. When you see a boat with grease oozing out of a winch, ask the owner what he used. Don't buy it. For the record, when I had my marine repair business, I maintained a lot of winches. I cleaned them with Simple Green or, if really dry and stiff, mineral spirits

Re: Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

2018-11-04 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Thanks Chuck. How about we just have a beer - or a rum drink :) I think I’ll go the tent route, not the shrink wrap / canvas cover route. Cheers, Randy > On Nov 4, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List > wrote: > > Shrink wrap to the toe rail and no lower. Found out the hard way w

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I think I got some at Home Depot. I use it for turnbuckles. From: Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch grease Wow Josh, that’s ridiculous! I’ve never heard of green Grease. Where can you find

Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
If you plan to routinely climb solo, you may want to invest in an ATN mast climbing bosun’s chair. From: John Irvin via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 4:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: John Irvin Subject: Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast That boat - easier to take the mast down.

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread billbruce--- via CnC-List
SuperLube is what the Anderson which company uses...it's synthetic, temperature stable and safe with plastic. Bill Bruce Landfall 38 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is g

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread schiller via CnC-List
I think a lot depends on a salt water or fresh water environment.  We are in fresh water.  I cleaned and lubed my primaries (Barlow 26) on Corsair (1970 Redwing 35) after about 30 years of service.  The aft winches were a little dry, the forwards were just fine.  Our new boat will get winches d

Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
That boat - easier to take the mast down. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Two or three climbing ascenders, climbing harness. If you have someone to help you (belay), two is enough. If you try doing it solo

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
This is the home page. It says you can buy it online or at PepBoys, NAPA, AutoZone... And a few others. https://www.greengrease.net Josh On Sun, Nov 4, 2018, 4:03 PM Chris Graham via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > This is great information thanks so much Josh! > Chris > > > Sent f

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
This is great information thanks so much Josh!Chris Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 12:02 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: As promised.  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K6BjDMRWXsjeenlURzxj1x6x1278iH_c/view?usp=drivesdk Josh On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 9:46 PM Chri

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Great, thank you Michael; I appreciate it!Chris  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:57 AM, Michael Brown via CnC-List wrote: A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings.At low speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Wow Josh, that’s ridiculous! I’ve never heard of green Grease. Where can you find it? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 11:44 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: I found an old PS edition from when I still had my subscription.  I'll try to get it digitized and  

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Too late for those who already did it, but a good tip is to use an old shoe box with a hole through which the witch can go. This way any small parts (e.g. pawls) cannot jump into the water (they do have that propensity). Marek Sent from Mail for

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Acetone works, as well. Be careful where you do it, it does dissolve various things (e.g. garnish on any wood). Marek Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: CnC-List on behalf of svrebeccaleah via CnC-List Sent: Su

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I am with Dwight on this. Maybe 15 years is a bit of a stretch, but I did my winches last spring and I bet this was their first time in 24 years, maybe second. They still were working fine (before cleaning and greasing). My winches are Lewmar. I don’t believe that the winches run in such a dema

Re: Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Two or three climbing ascenders, climbing harness. If you have someone to help you (belay), two is enough. If you try doing it solo you need the third. Make sure that your halyards are in good shape. This step is CRITICAL. Climb on one halyard; preferably, tied very tight to the bottom

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
You da Man Josh i have yet to open / service a winch since i have owned Halcyon, and by the shape of many unused items on the boat doubt they have been touched in last 3 years. Will add it to my spring to do list. i pay to sail all winter when weather allows :) John Conklin S/V Halcyon www.flir

Re: Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

2018-11-04 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Shrink wrap to the toe rail and no lower. Found out the hard way with my first boat painted Mauritius Blue Perfection. Lots of blistering under the shrink wrap. Especially if Grenadine was recently painted and is still out gassing. I’ll be out in Colorado over Thanksgiving and maybe can brea

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Superlube for grease as it isn’t petroleum based and won’t damage nylon caged needle bearings. I like Dri-Slide for lubricating pawls etc since it won’t attract dirt. Chuck Gilchrest Half Magic 1983 LF 35 Padanaram MA Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 3, 2018, at 9:54 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-Lis

Stus-List Climbing the mast

2018-11-04 Thread Sidney King via CnC-List
Hello I would like to add a antenna at the top of the mast for a marina radio. Looking for advice on how to accomplish this. I have a 1980 c&c 24ft sailboat. Is there a weight limit to climb the mast? What kind climbing gear to use? Thank you ___

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
You guys seem to have lube problems with you winches that i have not experienced. My winches have been cleaned and lubed only once in 15 years and they work and sound just fine. Last time about 5 years ago I used Harken white winch grease and Harken winch pawl oil. Still worin smooth and sounding g

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
As promised. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K6BjDMRWXsjeenlURzxj1x6x1278iH_c/view?usp=drivesdk Josh On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 9:46 PM Chris Graham via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: > I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if > there was a preferred machine

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
A calcium based greases are among the more water resistant offerings. At low speed and medium pressure calcium sulphonate is a good choice. I contacted Shell and one of their product specialists called me back. After a discussion of the properties of marine winches she recommended looking at the

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I found an old PS edition from when I still had my subscription. I'll try to get it digitized and uploaded soon. In the mean time hear are the standout results. 13 greases tested. Between the official winch greases, Andersen, Harken, and Lewmar. Lewmar was the given the "best choice" star. U

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Brakekleen is awesome. As I understand it the non-chlorinated version is to ensure that the chemicals don't destroy the plastic and rubber partschoose wisely. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun, Nov 4, 2018, 10:55 AM svrebeccaleah via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.co

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread svrebeccaleah via CnC-List
I soaked my winch parts in Brakekleen. Came clean after 10 minutes soak time. I keep a spray can onboard for any oily cleaning I need to do. Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah LH39Port Orchard YC wa. Original message From: Chris Graham via CnC-List Date: 11/4/18 05:49 (GMT-08:00)

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread schiller via CnC-List
It might be a good time to remind what grease is.  It is a lubricating oil, a thickener and additives.  The oils will be petroleum based or synthetic.  The thickeners range from soaps (aluminum, lithium or calcium based), clay (think kitty litter), or polyureas.  The additives are for rust/oxid

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Thanks Don! Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 9:09 AM, Don Wagner via CnC-List wrote: I also prefer a teflon or silicone based grease. I avoid lithium based grease since they seem to dry out and get hard after a while. Don Wagner Der BaronC&C 41 CB  From: Chris G

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
They wanted $18 for shipping for the kit!! So, I think I’m just going to order them separately online Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 8:49 AM, Chris Graham via CnC-List wrote: Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 anyway. May

Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

2018-11-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
FYI, I posted earlier, even though I worked for the parent company that made Fram filters, I wouldn't buy them. However, just for clarity, like many filter manufacturers, Fram makes a couple lines of filters. The standard line, which is found in many big box stores, isn't highly rated. Fram's pr

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Don Wagner via CnC-List
I also prefer a teflon or silicone based grease. I avoid lithium based grease since they seem to dry out and get hard after a while. Don Wagner Der Baron C&C 41 CB From: Chris Graham via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 8:49 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Graham Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Oh... that sounds good. The Pawlls are rusted so I need to replace all 8 anyway. May buy the kit and use the cheaper stuff for yearly servicing. Took me almost 4 hours per winch to get the sticky hard varnish that had developed!! What a mess. They look and feel brand new now!  Chris  Sent from

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
There is a very similar teflon based grease used for pool valves, and if you have a pool store near you it will be easier to find and probably cheaper. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Date: 11/4/18 8:35 AM (G

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Good to have on the boat. This is what Peggie Hall recommends for lubricating the head pump, as well. A small tube is about $7 (CAD) at Home Hardware (special order). Readily available in any h/w store S of the border. Marek Ottawa, ON From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Chris Graham via CnC-List Se

Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

2018-11-04 Thread robert via CnC-List
FYI.http://www.awlgrip.com/support-and-advice/topcoat-maintenance.aspx Do not shrink wrap awlgrip! Rob Abbott On 2018-11-04 9:10 AM, robert via CnC-List wrote: I think I read that boats that have been painted with Awlgrip should not have shrink wrap around the topsides.bring the plasti

Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

2018-11-04 Thread robert via CnC-List
I think I read that boats that have been painted with Awlgrip should not have shrink wrap around the topsides.bring the plastic down to the toe rail.  I think the Awlgrip site addresses this. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - #277 Halifax, N.S. On 2018-11-03 4:52 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wr

Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

2018-11-04 Thread robert via CnC-List
I use NAPA's 1064 Gold Oil Filter on my Yanmar..any comments on the quality of this filter? Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - #277 Halifax, N.S. On 2018-11-03 2:19 PM, svrebeccaleah via CnC-List wrote: I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store. Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah L

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread billbruce--- via CnC-List
I use synthetic motor oil on pawls. Synthetics are more temperature stable Bill Bruce Landfall 38.   ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread John and Maryann Read via CnC-List
Ditto – I use 10-30W oil sparingly on pawls. I find the grease only occasionally needs more added each year John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, November 03,

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
I’ve never heard of it! Good price!Chris Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, November 4, 2018, 5:53 AM, billbruce--- via CnC-List wrote: I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread billbruce--- via CnC-List
I use superlube. A local supplier has it for about $15 Cdn full size cartridge. It's a clear synthetic grease and it is what the Anderson winch company uses at the factory.   Bill Bruce Landfall 38 ___ Thanks everyo

Re: Stus-List Winch grease

2018-11-04 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Here is a source: https://us.binnacle.com/Sailboat-Hardware-Winches-&-Winch-Handles-Winch-Service-Kits-&-Parts/c28_30_424/p889/Lewmar-Winch-Maintenance-Pack-19701500/product_info.html Lewmar Winch Maintenance Pack 19701500 Kit for basic maintence including greasing, pawl lubrication and replaceme