Steve,
...and anyone else - how do you find the 2 blade and vibration? I note you had
a concern; was the concern justified or does the 2 blade run OK? Anyone have
any experience with 2 blade and 3 blade vibration differences?
If anyone is interested, I’ve had a quote back from Max Prop alre
Danny,
I've been on this list for over a decade. I don't recall a single thread on
failure of a bladder tank.
I do recall several threads on failures of rigid tanks.
I have bladder tanks for both waste and fresh water.
Something to think about.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
Back when my boat was built (1990) the main halyard was made of wire and
rope with a wire to rope splice. Some time ago a previous owner changed
the main halyard to all rope. One day, while we were running downwind the
main halyard parted and down came the main. As it turns out, the design of
the
I recently removed our water tank under the port main cabin bunk for some
much needed cleaning of the hull interior. Come to find out there is only
one limber hole at the forward end where the piping runs through.
Unfortunately this is not the low spot so any water that gets in under the
tank sits
I'm mainly a daysailor who has so far avoided the poo issue. If I were to
forgo my very comfortable bed and spend a night aboard Ox, I would first
try to address the poo problem at the source - with bananas. Beyond that,
I'd go Porta Potti and deal with it.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
On Mon, Oct 21, 2
I bought my KiwiProp from the newish company back in 2006. At the
time they didn't make one that would match the lower HP rating of a
motor that you typically find installed in a 26 footer.
Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
There is a new Kiwi company out of New Zeland making com
Thanks for the ideas. I have a rigid vang so it wasn't the topping lift --
good thought though. It must be, as Andy suggested, the sheave or the
exit. I am leaning towards the latter because the cut is well below the
top of the sheave and closer to where it might exit (or possibly below).
Ther
In another couple of weeks, we'll be in prime sailing weather down on the
St Johns River in Florida. Here are the present conditions:
http://staugustine.com/news/florida-news/2013-10-10/algal-blooms-reach-toxic-levels-st-johns#.UmXLinCsjLQ
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM
Maybe the main halyard spent time fouled on a frayed topping lift.
My topping lift recently gave up the ghost. Before that happened I had
noticed that my main halyard and topping lift were fouled. That was easily
fixed. Later on, my mast climber (who goes all the way to the top) told me
my (wire) t
Would have seen you there, David, but for us both coming down with stinking
colds.
The only explanation I can come up with is that the top of the mast; either
the sheave or the exit was chafed by an original wire halyard. I believe
the 33s came with wire halyards, right?
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
On
I had an interesting sail last weekend to Cuttyhunk, in my 1975 C&C33-1.
I was blasting downwind in 17-22 kn wind under main and poled-out jib. The
ride lasted for several hours but was interrupted when I jibed the main (in
a fairly controlled jibe). To my great surprise the jibe resulted in the
RICH
Good question. I consulted with both the engine manufacturer and the Martec
guy who went back and forth in a range and we settled on this. The Martec guy
actually wanted me to swing a larger diameter prop with slightly less pitch but
short of moving the strut, that wasn't going to happen
I have a 9 Gal Mansfield Poly tank I removed several years ago and would
sell for 20bucks. (plus shipping) It has a macerator towards the bottom,
and had some setup by Sealand to treat the tank with a chemical and
supposedly, discharge overboard. I think by the time I got the boat that
wasnt le
Kracor did all the tanks on the LF38 (except for fuel), including the 35-gal
holding tank.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Oct 21, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
> Danny,
>
> My water tank was made by
> http://www.k
Danny,
My water tank was made by
http://www.kracor.com/pages/marinecatalog.html
Don't know if they did the holding tank too.
Joel
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:49 PM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
> I wish he had taken some better pictures of the tank and routing...
> I'm hoping Ronco can put some ki
I wish he had taken some better pictures of the tank and routing...I'm hoping
Ronco can put some kind of tank together for me. Holland Marine products sells
a tanks he says is OEM for C&C and many Canadian sailboats. He wants $429 for
it and I think it holds 16 galons http://www.hollandmarine.c
Ø ... what is a reasonable sized holding tank. <
Depends on intended boat use. Short trips, rarely living onboard for more than
a weekend, mostly tied to a dock lets you get away with a holding tank on the
small end of the capacity range.
For Calypso which had plenty of room in the forepeak f
:-) We still jokingly call it a tide on Lake Champlain, but one that only
is high or low once per year, and it¹s a 10¹ or less tide.
Ed
> From: "Della Barba, Joe"
>
Must be odd to have the ability for the water to go out..and not come
back!
Joe Della Barba
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Danny,
The 35/3 came with a 24 gallon tank. I pump out 1 or 2 times a season.
The brochures on the website list tankage for various models.
BTW, don't forget a vent!
Joel
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:19 PM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:
> Thanks for the responses.
>
> Just outside of buzzards Bay
> There is a new Kiwi company out of New Zeland making composite feathering
> props getting rave reviews. A friend put one on his Sweden 38 and says he
> gained a half knot under sail and power. Here is the contact info. Web
> site -http://www.kiwiprops.co.nz/cms/index.php
Sent from my iPh
Thanks for the responses.
Just outside of buzzards Bay is beyond the no discharge zone. I've sailed out
there quite a few times on nice breezy days. It would only be a 30-40 minute
sail on a good day if I really needed to dump some poo...
what is a reasonable sized holding tank. I really don
Must be odd to have the ability for the water to go out...and not come
back!
Joe Della Barba
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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 3:46 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Season's Over
Suhana is o
Suhana is on a mooring with plenty of water under her keel (something like
13 feet depth there) .. our club is moorings only and we have shared docks
for pickup/dropoff, pumpout, mast crane and such .. that's where it gets
shallow! That's also where we sling the boats for the crane. Plenty of
depth
Have the Max Prop two blade feathering prop. Great forward and reverse and
braking. The prop is pricey but reliable. I looked at many other designs before
settling on MaxProp. You set the pitch during installation, so you can increase
or decrease on the next haul if necessary to tweak it.
Mai
Danny,
Waste thoughts:
Head up then down (loop hose) into holding tank - don't want the whole load
set up to back siphon against that measly joker valve (buy a spare, change
often) Holding tank exit to y valve then either up and out to pumpout or via
a macerator pump through hull overboard. Whi
We moved our C&C 24 around from our bay to the little marina to the north of
us for hauling on Saturday. We snagged a ball there and measured the water
depth. It was
5¹, which didn¹t make us feel too good with 4¹ draft. We finally found one
with 6¹, still not comforting. I don¹t know how owners ca
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Jerome Tauber wrote:
> There is a new Kiwi company out of New Zeland making composite feathering
> props getting rave reviews. A friend put one on his Sweden 38 and says he
> gained a half knot under sail and power. Here is the contact info
Out of sheer curiosity, Alex, how did you determine size and pitch of the new
prop?
Rich
> On Oct 21, 2013, at 14:59, Alex Giannelia wrote:
>
> FWIW,
>
> I had a 14x6 Martec at the end of an old WESTERBEKE 15HP diesel
> pushing/pulling my CC35-II in and out of the slip and only when facing a
I recall a whole thread a while ago concerning solar powered vents such as the
NICRO day night I installed in my boat in 2003 which I believe has a dead
battery amongst a few other minor problems.
Now for my question. Can you get a solar vent which, like the NICRO pulls out
of the deck fitting
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Happy with my Flex o Fold. Quality construction (better machining than others)
- works well because it is geared so it opens every time, forward and reverse.
Gary Nylander
30-1
Chesapeake
- Original Message -
From: Sam Salter
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Saturday, October 1
Suhana was hauled (just barely) on Saturday. Our club has some water level
issues . Suhana and two other boats share the distinction of drawing
the most water. Watching people poke their way to the dock was inspiring.
Barely got the slings under her keel.
One of the last boats out .. Puttered
Well, from the looks of things they may not stay wet for long around here… it
snowed over the weekend. :^(
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Oct 21, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Jim Watts wrote:
> I keep forgetting about the wet bits
I second Rich’s comments regarding MAX prop maintenance and how contacting PYI
Inc plus reading the info on their web site as being helpful in the prop type
decision.
We did modify Calypso’s prop shaft slightly to install our MAX prop. We did
this back in 1999 but IIRC we cut ½” off the thread
Edd,
A sad day indeed! 5 more weeks for me - come to Annapolis! Yesterday was
awesome.
The Admiral is working on Thanksgiving, so weather permitting, I'm planning
to honor the pilgrims by sailing rather than eating.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Edd Schillay wrote:
>
Darn!
We had a great weekend up in the Corsica and our club had our annual dinner
Sunday night. The boat is still there, so we'll have another weekend up there
and home next Sunday. Some years we get good sailing in November and December,
other years not so much. The way to know which way it goe
Very true Don, and I should have specified coastal areas. I keep forgetting
about the wet bits in the middle.
The grey water collection and pumpout scheme fell apart only after a lot of
explaining the physics involved (and public ridicule) to chair-warmers in
Ottawa. Even now, there's only about 30
Hate to here that. The sailers over at Port Royal Landing marina will
be doing a Star gazing weekend on the weekend of the November 9th.
temptures will be inb the upper 60's at night and in the lower 80's in
the afternoon. We never stop sailing in the Lowcountry of South
carolina. I am going to rea
Just to clarify a point...In Canada only on the ocean coasts may
overboard discharge be legal. In the Great Lakes, and the inland lakes
of Ontario, not to many years ago, boaters faced impeding legislation
that would have required all water from your boat collected and disposed
of in an appropr
All,
Sad to report the Enterprise's 2013 season has ended -- she was hauled
with the tide on Saturday. Write-up and pictures are on the Captain's Log blog.
Thanks to all for the wealth of information and cyber-friendships. I'm
already looking forward to a great 2014 of C&C saili
Maxprop maintenance is easy. They say to grease every couple of years but so
simple to do every year.
Have a three-bladed one and find the extra value offsets the extra cost.
Bob Morgan
Quicksea
C&C37
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Bill,
I haven't speced the prop yet...I'm still in the water. I don't do many engine
hours at all during the season other than out to the islands...never fails that
there's no wind on the days I go! I chose Gori partly because they are here on
the island and we deal with them regularly.
Harry
Check this out> Skip did exactly the holding tank installation you're
talking about on his C&C 40. The pump out is on deck and when he's offshore
it drains straight out without a macerator pump.
http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.com/2012/11/systems-review-warningpotentially-boring.html
Andy
C&C 40
Pump-out fittings are a friction fit with the deck outlet. They scare the
hell out of me.
The last one I used, the previous user had turned the open/close lever at
the business end to close before turning the pump off. This left the hose
full of waste up to the shutoff. When I cracked the valve to
Danny,
Good luck!
>From the head - discharge hose to Y valve. One branch to a thru-hull, one
to the tank. The one to the tank needs a loop in it so it is above the
water line at all times. The pump out connection is at the bottom of the
tank and runs to a deck fitting. The pump-out fitting sits
Okay guys, I'm planning a new waste system. I'm going with the Raritan PHC
head and a new holding tank. I currently have a very old Jabsco head and a
bladder holding tank. I really don't like the bladder. It has worked okay
but, one day it will fail and it will be disgusting! I just want ri
Hi Damien,How was your season? It was WAY too short! I just asked for a haul
out today... Now we wait... I'm planning a new waste system installation this
winter and I'm wonder how your boat is set up. Where the tank is, how it is
piped, blah blah blah... I'm just looking for ideas in design
There is a new Kiwi company out of New Zeland making composite feathering
props getting rave reviews. A friend put one on his Sweden 38 and says he
gained a half knot under sail and power. Here is the contact info. Web site
- http://www.kiwiprops.co.nz/cms/index.php,
POSTAL ADDRESS:
Sam,
Another vote for Flex-o-fold. Put a 2 blade on Perception after we repowered
and love it, replaced a 3 blade Campbell Sailor – and great in forward and
reverse.
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sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: October-21-13 4:02 AM
To:
Sam,
I found a used geared Gori for my 27 and it works fine in forward and
reverse. I had hoped to find a 3 blade folder of some kind to minimise
vibration but when I checked the manufacturers specifications there were none
available in a small enough diameter. That was a few years ago
The Gori Three Blade?
Bill Coleman
C&C 39 animated_favicon1
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Hallgring
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:01 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding/feathering Props
Sam,
I have a two blade foldi
Sam: www.pyiinc.com will tell all and may well be your best source too. You
may be able to find a used or reconditioned unit.
Maintenance on mine has been annual greasing and zinc replacement. 14 years, no
problems.
Rich
> On Oct 21, 2013, at 5:02, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Good e
Good experiences; thanks for sharing.
Looks like two or three endorsements for the Max Prop; about the
same against the Martec; one for the Flexofold; ...and a Gori
replacing a Martec!
couple of questions:
How big a deal is the maintenance on the Max Prop?
Is it just
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