Tomorrow, May 9, 2013, is the start of the Oregon Offshore International Yacht
Race. The race starts at the mouth of the Columbia River at Astoria, Oregon,
and finishes inside the harbor at Victoria, BC. Two C&C's are entered: Cool
Change, a C&C Landfall 38, hull number 1, skippered by Frank Nor
If you're going to run aground so much, you might want to consider cheaper
batteries and a set of training wheels. ; )
On 8 May 2013 19:10, Chuck S wrote:
> I would buy wet cell batteries if money was tight and I didn't mind
> changing them every 2 to 4 years.
> The reason to buy expensive AGMs
Very classy to list all of the C&Cs in the race.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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Tom,
At the
I would buy wet cell batteries if money was tight and I didn't mind changing
them every 2 to 4 years.
The reason to buy expensive AGMs? No off gassing, no adding water, supposed to
work laying on their side or when submerged.
Ours are located under the aft berth, so I didn't want hydrogen gasse
Rich:
We had a pair of the Walmart deep cycle 27 batteries (because of the
price) and used them for 2 seasons.gave them to Wayne to use in the
club's boats which might have a chance to keep them 'in charge' .
Have had the Group 27's deep cycle GNB's from Maritime Battery in
Burnside eve
In 2002 I bought my boat with no batteries.
Installed two AGMs from West Marine. They were expensive. After 8 years one
didn't hold a charge too long, so I added a 120VAC charger from West that
helped recondition the batteries and charges lasted a lot longer. For 8 years
prior I was charging wi
Steve:
Canadian Tire has portable/rechargeable dual 12V DC /120V AC
batteries..wait for them to go on saleyou will never have to
hand crank your engine with one of these in your tool kit.
Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2013/05/08 12:00 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:
Thank
Steve,
I wired it to the main panel on the input side of the main DC breaker.
It only is shut off when I turn the big ON/OFF switch (A/B/All for some
folks.) That seemed like a good compromise to me. Depending on how
fancy your stereo is, it can be a PITA to go through the setup
constantly
I went with Dow 795 following Select Plastics recommendation. It's only been
one year, but very happy with the results.
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Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT
On May 8, 2013, at 20:30, Thomas Mikos wrote:
> Just an inquiry to the group to determine if there is any new adhesives being
> us
Bob,
Your opinion was substantiated by a reviewing authority... I can't remember
which.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
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On May 8, 2013 8:20 PM, "Bob Moriarty" wrote:
> I've formed the opinion (everyone has one), probably from this list, that
Just an inquiry to the group to determine if there is any new adhesives being
used for window adherence for my CC33-2. I have reattached with Plexus or
Methacrylate in the past and it appears that I am up for another try. Anything
new or is it still plexus adhesives .
Thanks Tom
Hammond India
I've formed the opinion (everyone has one), probably from this list, that a
good way to compare lead-acid batteries is by $/pound.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Bob Dryer wrote:
> I suspect that all batteries with the same label and/or warranty are not
> the same. Becau
Tom,
At the risk of sharing too much below are the times out and back for R2S Class
7 and the other C&C's in the race. The combo of PHRF rating and race times may
give some indication of performance but remember that there is great variation
in current and conditions experienced by different s
Steve,
My radio is wired direct to the battery (with a fuse). No problems in 12
years of operation. Frankly, I'm surprised the radio still works! I would
like to replace it so I can have one with a aux jack for my XM radio. The
FM converter ain't the best.
Jake
Jake Brodersen
C&C 3
Ever left a car unstated for a few weeks? Same thing. Memory retain wire is
always hot. Car clock is always hot. Not enough power usage to measure.
Touché has memory retain hooked up 24/7.
Dennis C.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 8, 2013, at 12:57 PM, "Pete Shelquist"
wrote:
> Stevan –
> Th
Stevan -
This is how I have my radio now. Even being gone for 3-4 weeks with
batteries that are rather dated, they hold up fine. Don't sweat it. Hard
wire the stereo to one battery and keep all other batteries separated while
you're away.
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Thanks, I am very familiar with Maine Sail's writeups on his site and
various message boards and batteries are something I did a fair amount of
reading .. just not enough absorbing! I will revisit the topic when I next
have time. In the meantime, my question about the constant 12v feed for the
ster
Steve,
If you read about batteries, charging (and discharging) you will probably find
that starting from "Both" is not the preferred option.
Switching the batteries when the motor is running (or rather, when the
alternator is charging) may not be a good idea, but it depends on your switch.
If
Steve,
Its fine to switch the batteries while running as long as you don't switch
to off. If you do that, you fry the alternator.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:
> I have two batteries and a switch. I typically start and run from the
> "both" position
The Canadain Tire deep cycle batteries are Exide.
I have had better luck with them than you.
Same for the Interstate deep cycle.
5-6 years when not mis-treated.
Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of M
I suspect that all batteries with the same label and/or warranty are not
the same. Because of shipping costs, it is likely that different brands
come off the same assembly line and are just branded differently. I also
suspect that warranties are mostly a marketing gimmick and have little to
do with
I tried a pair of them. They lost capacity within 2 years and had to be
replaced. I always checked and filled them regularly and never abused
them. Batteries, regardless of manufacturer, are built to a price point
for big retailers. This is especially true of the goliaths such as
Walmart, who h
I have two batteries and a switch. I typically start and run from the
"both" position simply so that the alternator can charge both batteries. I
heard it's bad to switch while the engine is running. I leave the switch on
"battery 1" while away so that both batteries don't drain accidentally.
When I
I'm not doing AGM again. My gels lasted at least twice as long and the price is
within 5%.
Joe Della Barba
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Dziedzic
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:26 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List EverStart Marine B
Steve, sounds like you need a separate starting battery with no other loads on
it.
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-05-08, at 12:00, Stevan Plavsa wrote:
Thanks all. Yeah I was thinking about the car but you know .. there's a bilge
pump too and it's a boat and if the battery dies I'
I have a couple of AGM batteries at the moment (Optima) and I am only so-so
happy with them.
A friend with an RV (similar use to a boat, but somewhat different) swears by
the Costco deep cycle batteries; they are reasonably priced, have a decent
warranty and last fairly long (in his case about
I connected mine. The Kenwood I have - absent a memory power supply - will
always come on in "Demo" mode and require a few button pushed to get going. It
has a fuse I can pull if I want to save power.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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While sailing on the Long Island Sound, I find it sometimes useful to tune in
an AM
radio station in New York City to monitor static interference from
electrical activity in the atmosphere. Our weather most often comes from
the southwest in the summer, and "chance of thunder storms" is
boilerplat
Martin
Thanks so much for sharing. Last weekend was truly amazing around here with
temps in the 80's and solid 15-20 Knt winds, I can see why you had the best
race ever! What were your times out and back?
We got a little time put on Sunday and had a blast!
Tom B
Tom Buscaglia
Alera, C&C 37+
Thanks all. Yeah I was thinking about the car but you know .. there's a
bilge pump too and it's a boat and if the battery dies I'm stuck on my
mooring with no way to recharge the battery short of hand cranking the
engine. I guess it's not such a bad scenario.
We used a little logitech iPod thing f
Steve,
Even though the draw is minimal and I am dockside I did not connect it. Not
sure I can articulate a good reason why.
The only downside for me is the colors of the display keep changing. I
plug my iPhone into the stereo and run Pandora. The FM reception in my
marina sucks, so losing the pr
I've never had a problem with current draw from the "memory" circuit in my
stereo. Usually, the current draw is in the uA (I think). Consider the
fact, that a car might be parked for a couple of weeks while someone goes
on vacation, and there little to worry about when he returns.
Gary
S/V Expre
Steve,
The draw is minimal, and many people do keep it hooked up.
Personally I ditched my boat's marine stereo and purchased a Bose
Bluetooth portable speaker set to connect to my iPhone, iPad and MacBook Pro.
That way I can listen to my music or I-Heart-Radio, or even watch mo
I think you'll find your deck only draws milliamperes of power to maintain the
memory. I'd hook it up to the house battery and keep an eye on it.
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-05-08, at 11:19, Stevan Plavsa wrote:
Hi All.
I've gone ahead and hooked up a kenwood car stereo in my 3
I installed two blade-type fuse blocks behind my electrical panel, one before
the House main breaker and one after. One of the fused circuits ahead of the
house breaker is for the "always on" lead to the stereo. Then all the settings
will stay live (unless I disconnect the battery, which I do
Hi All.
I've gone ahead and hooked up a kenwood car stereo in my 32. I like to
think I did a pretty neat install. I removed the cross member at the top of
the nav station, cut a hole in it for the deck and reassembled. It looks
"factory", you know, if they installed disco light stereos back in 198
Thanks, Joe. For the mostly inshore sailing I anticipate doing with the odd
week on the boat, I think I'm going to stick to good old basic lead acid
technology. The current Surrette batteries have lasted 14 years and are only
now corpses because I neglected them last fall.
Rich Knowles
Indigo.
FYI our local Sams Club has rebadged DEKA AGM batteries selling with an
Energizer label. They are Group 27s and are under $200 if memory serves. They
also have a wet cell 4D for around $160. My AGM 4D at West Marine is now around
$600 (OUCH).
Joe Della Barba
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Thanks, gang. I think I'll have a scotch with myself and then make an informed
decision. Chocolate or vanilla?
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax
On 2013-05-08, at 10:13, "Rick Brass" wrote:
I have 4 of them in the house bank on my 38, and 2 old ones (circa 2004) in my
25. They were instal
I have 4 of them in the house bank on my 38, and 2 old ones (circa 2004) in my
25. They were installed circa March 2009 and still going strong. As I said when
the subject of batteries came up a few weeks ago, based on my experience
working with Johnson Controls for more than 20 years as a produc
2 years is a decent lifespan for bargain car batteries in a boat.
We routinely did 2 year replacements until I got an expensive gel battery that
made about 10 years and my current AGMs that look like they'll make 5-6.
By *FAR* the cheapest total cost solution for batteries is golf cart (or
forkli
I tried a pair of them. They lost capacity within 2 years and had to be
replaced. I always checked and filled them regularly and never abused
them. Batteries, regardless of manufacturer, are built to a price point
for big retailers. This is especially true of the goliaths such as
Walmart, who h
Don,
I had sweeper batteries (larger than golf) from US for five years. Will do
the same again. Lots of discharges and charges.
David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
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> Subject:
While we are at it, I'd appreciate any opinions about 12 v. golf cart
batteries from US Battery and Crown.
Don
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Explore the warranty carefully. Like many battery sellers now, I think Walmart
has a XX month free replacement followed by NOTHING. NO prorated replacement.
Few months ago. I was talking with a lady behind the Walmart auto counter
about them. She said she wouldn't buy one. Not much of a r
I had some a few years back, not too bad but I think the GNB deep cycles
sold at Maritime Battery are a better deal long term
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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Knowles
Sent:
Has anyone had experience with Walmart's EverStart Marine Battery 27DC-850N?
The units on sale here are made by Johnson Controls. They seem like a good
deal.
Rich Knowles
LF38
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