Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

Finally I understand the subject "Lightning on the hard" Rich Knowles Mistyped by thumb. On 2012-08-29, at 21:17, Wally Bryant wrote: > The women as usual, were happy but the men were disgruntled. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album htt

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

Were the women actually happy or just laughing? In my experience I have found it difficult to tell during the tropical naked rain dance. Martin -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant Sent: Wednesday, Augus

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

You wish!! - Original Message - From: "Wally Bryant" To: w...@wbryant.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:17:12 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard Of course, as I wrote that, we just had three lighting strikes followed by immediate thunder tha

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

Of course, as I wrote that, we just had three lighting strikes followed by immediate thunder that would make a Canadian shiver in his timbers. I, of course, leapt on deck to go dancing in the rain, only to discover that there are actually other people in the world who may or may not want to wa

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

You’re right about Florida, which is the lightning capital of North America. We get thunderstorms 120 days a year on average, and 10 people a year die from strikes. Hundreds get injured. I stopped being flippant about lightning after I moved here 35 years ago. In a bad storm, lightning strikes

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

Jack, Thanks for the great link. Based on Ewen Thomson's study I should increase Calypso's mast to keel bolt conductors to larger than #4 and keep her in salt water, in the PNW and not Florida or Costa Rica. Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle From: cnc-list-bou

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

Ewen Thomson is the acknowledged U.S. expert on lightning and sailboats. He used to be a professor at the University of Florida, where he studied lightning for a couple of decades and provided free advice on inexpensive systems for boats. http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/sg071 Now he has gone capita

Re: Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass)

Rick, Your explanation covers Calypso's windlass exactly. I have not attempted to handle two anchors simultaneously, but if I did I expect I would weigh one, tie it off (rolling hitch to a winch further aft) then weigh the other. The capstan has been useful when short handed and I need to get

Re: Stus-List Isaac: Lightning on the hard

Please note that I am talking about lightning on the hard. I have a keel stepped mast which is grounded via a big hunky wire to a keel bolt. When the boat is in the water, it is effectively grounded to the ocean, and that's what I want.Out of the water with the keel on wooden blocks, it

Re: Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass)

The wheel on an anchor windlass that is designed to pull on the chain is indeed called a gypsy. On many windlasses, there is also a drum much like a sheet winch that is intended for line only; that is called a capstan. On a vertical shaft windlass, like I have on Imzadi, the capstan is above the gy

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

That was fantastic. Thanks for the laugh :) On Aug 29, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: > I'm going to be flippant: "Man, you understand lighting?" > > I've listened to this debate for so long that I am totally fatalistic about > it. Sheesh. My mast is keel stepped, onto an aluminum pl

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

>> Heck, there once was the 'cone of protection' emanating from the top of the >> mast to the water. Whatever happened to that? << Can't speak to the prophylactic value of the dead squirrel on the Windex but the 60 degree cone of protection is well documented. Thankfully I have not had to mak

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Lightning on the hard

H... let's try this again: http://www.marinesurveyorschool.org/seminar_files/lightening%20protection.pdf Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Aug 29, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Frederick G Street wrote: > Oops, somehow the second link

Stus-List Fwd: Lightning on the hard

Oops, somehow the second link broke. Try this: www.marinesurveyorschool.org/...files/Lightening%20Protection.pdf Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( Begin forwarded message: > From: Frederick G Street > Date: August 29, 2012 4:31:

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

It's rocket science: http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADP002181 Here's a "bootleg" copy of the ABYC standards for lightning protection: www.marinesurveyorschool.org/...files/Lightening%20Protection.pdf Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Lan

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

I'm going to be flippant: "Man, you understand lighting?" I've listened to this debate for so long that I am totally fatalistic about it. Sheesh. My mast is keel stepped, onto an aluminum plate that is bolted into my lead keel. I think that's the shortest path to ground. Do this. Do that

Re: Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass)

I may have the exact name incorrect but the lower part of the vertical shaft windless can grip rope rode (size does matter) then as the transition to chain happens it fits into the larger spaces on the same rotating gypsy. The Lewmar model Ocean #2 also has a rope/line only section that looks an

Re: Stus-List Isaac: Lightning on the hard

I fashioned a home-made lightning rod for my boat. I bought some thin copper tubing and strapped a four-foot section to a piece of hardwood, then attached 40 feet of no. 4 electrical cable to the tubing. To provide support for the cable, I ran 40 feet of line tied together at set intervals.

Re: Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass)

"capable gypsy?" (remember, I'm a neophyte here) --- On Wed, 8/29/12, Martin DeYoung wrote: From: Martin DeYoung Subject: Re: Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass) To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012, 4:47 PM >> Would a windlass be a welcome addition to our

Re: Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass)

>> Would a windlass be a welcome addition to our anchoring arsenal? As one ages or needs to re-anchor three times within 2 hours the windless starts to make sense. >> What about the chain/rope connection? I use a rope to chain splice and the Lewmar rope/chain capable gypsy. The splice is well

Re: Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass)

"fly" is my way of saying, "...it is hanging from the bow" --- On Wed, 8/29/12, honeys...@aol.com wrote: From: honeys...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012, 4:37 PM Richard   1 question. How do you "fly" an

Re: Stus-List Isaac: Lightning on the hard

>> ...but grounding it also makes it attract lightning. As there are now many >> grounded boats, It's now likely that the safe boats are the ones not >> grounded. << This statement differs from my understanding, granted I am no expert but I have read much on the topic and have sailed (mid-

Re: Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass)

Richard 1 question. How do you "fly" an anchor? Curious minds want to know. LOL Jack Fitzgeald C&C 39TM In a message dated 8/29/2012 4:25:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sailind...@yahoo.com writes: Greetings, I admit I am completely ignorant when it comes to windlasses. INDIGO (1978 36

Stus-List Isaac: Lightning on the hard

Hi, On Saturday, the weather predictions had Isaac a cat 2 hurricane heading right for us. The travel lift at my marina was working over time, and by afternoon the boat yard ran out of stands and were only hauling out those who had their own stands. My boat remained at the slip, and I prepa

Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass)

Greetings, I admit I am completely ignorant when it comes to windlasses. INDIGO (1978 36-footer) has a double bow roller, but we only fly a single anchor. We carry a Danforth anchor on 33 feet of chain to braided rope rode. Like a schlub, I just set it and pull it up by hand. My questions: Wo

Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week (now anchoring)

I agree with Colin, I have anchored comfortably at Vineyard Haven (and other places). I agree too that anchoring is the way to go. When I anchor, I feel smarter and more sailor-ly. Heck, I paid for the anchor, chain, and rode, I'm gonna use it. Also, every night anchoring saves us enough $$ for

Re: Stus-List Isaac..Dauphin Island Without Power Thanks to Runaway Bo at

any idea what kind of boat that is...it seems to be pretty stable in that it just keep sailing away with no one to control it. I guess it would be pretty hard to capsize that boat even if you were trying!Danny -- Original Message -- From: "Della Barba, Joe" To: "cnc-list@cnc-li

Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week

I have oft used the moorings in and around the islands for over 10 years...for a few specific reasons; I know and trust the local yards who maintain them, It is cheap insurance when I go off exploring knowing that if the wind shifts Corsair won't be bumpin' uglies with her neighbors, Its not m

Re: Stus-List Isaac..Dauphin Island Without Power Thanks to Runaway Boat

During Isabel a boat took out the power line that supplies my island. The boat had been hauled out, but the water rose enough for the boat to float off her cradle and take off across RT 50. Joe Della Barba From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-l

Re: Stus-List Isaac..Dauphin Island Without Power Thanks to RunawayBoat

He’s going to have a hard time explaining that one to the insurance company. From: Dennis C. Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:36 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Isaac..Dauphin Island Without Power Thanks to RunawayBoat It was me! It was me! NOT!! Never underestimate

Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week

Besides, who knows if you can really trust the mooring: I do trust my ground tackle, because I inspect it every time I use it! Wal I know lots of people are uncomfortable anchoring, but the more you do it, the more you'll swear by it as your p

Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week

Yea, Anchoring will be my norm I think. I've picked up what I think is a good anchor, I do have a windlass but I haven't gotten the chance to install it this year, unfortunately. From what I'm hearing around the marina, there are lots of good anchorages about the islands. Who wants to spend $

Re: Stus-List Isaac..Dauphin Island Without Power Thanks to Runaway Boat

It was me!  It was me!   NOT!! Never underestimate the idiocy of a boater. Poor Dauphin Island.  In 1979, Hurricane Frederic destroyed the old Dauphin Island Bridge.  A ferry was used for many months while the new bridge was being built.  The ferry continues today but runs across the mouth of

Re: Stus-List Ross MacLennan

Ross was always the C&C 24 source for this list. I have never met Ross but like so many others here I feel almost like I know him. It is all of our loss. Fair Winds Ross - wherever you are Mike From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun

Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week

Harry, Disagree on the traffic/bike issue. The island has a pervasive network of bike trails. The only limitation is the strength of one's legs. - On moorings, yes there are lots available, but they're expensive compared to laying down your own anchor. I know lots of people are uncomfortable

Re: Stus-List Edson Steering System

I did a word-by-word translation from french..   ( even worse, the real word-by-word translation would have been "an open-end english key"  :-) Actually I think it is called a 9/16 open-end wrench   Sylvain C&C27 MkIII From: Richard Walter To: Sylvain Lapla

Re: Stus-List Edson Steering System

...open end key...? --- On Thu, 8/23/12, Sylvain Laplante wrote: From: Sylvain Laplante Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson Steering System To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Date: Thursday, August 23, 2012, 10:55 AM And also it is a good idea to attach/tape an inexpensive open end key to the emergency ti

Re: Stus-List Isaac..Dauphin Island Without Power Thanks to Runaway Boat

Not sure if this link was submitted . sorry if duplicate http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopular/story/Dauphin-Island-Without-Power-Than ks-to-Runaway/TiNG7p_wUEacS97IJ9Ro5Q.cspx Nice video ed _ From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.

Stus-List Ross MacLennan

> Sad news indeed. Ross was an enthusiastic sailor and contributor to the C&C > List. I was lucky enough to meet Ross and take him out sailing a couple of > times on his previous vacations to the west coast. A very fine fellow. We'll > miss him. > Frank & Deanna Walczak > C&C 32 'Felicity' > V

Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week

Yea we plan to stay at menemsha for couple days, then to VH for a couple, the admiral wants to stay at the black dog, and then Edgartown for a couple and then figure out where to spend the last night before heading home. I've been studying the currents and I think I can basically sail under goo

Re: Stus-List Isaac..prepping for storm and surge

I was amazed at the number of boats in my marina that rode out Isabel with full canvas up! That hurricane had to be the most forecast hurricane ever – it basically went ruler straight right at us for days. For the hurricane last year I grabbed a mooring in Annapolis. Much easier than adjusting l