Richard
 
1 question. How do you "fly" an anchor? Curious minds want to know.  LOL
 
Jack Fitzgeald
C&C 39TM
 
In a message dated 8/29/2012 4:25:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
sailind...@yahoo.com writes:

Greetings,

I admit I am completely ignorant when  it comes to windlasses. INDIGO (1978 
36-footer) has a double bow roller,  but we only fly a single anchor. We 
carry a Danforth anchor on 33 feet  of chain to braided rope rode. Like a 
schlub, I just set it and pull it  up by hand. 

My questions:
Would a windlass be a welcome  addition to our anchoring arsenal? 
What about the chain/rope  connection? 
Can a windlass accommodate two anchors on the bow  roller?
Brand/model recommendation(s)? (We are partial to Lewmar for  our winches)
What else do I need to consider?

Thank  you,
Richard

--- On Wed, 8/29/12, Richard Walter  <sailind...@yahoo.com> wrote:


From:  Richard Walter <sailind...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List  Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week (now anchoring)
To:  cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012, 3:54  PM

   I agree with Colin, I have anchored comfortably  at Vineyard Haven (and 
other places). I agree too that anchoring  is the way to go. When I anchor, 
I feel smarter and more  sailor-ly. Heck, I paid for the anchor, chain, and 
rode, I'm  gonna use it. Also, every night anchoring saves us enough $$ for  
another dinner ashore!

Richard

--- On Wed,  8/29/12, Colin Kilgour  <charliekilo...@gmail.com> wrote:


From:  Colin Kilgour <charliekilo...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:  Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week
To:  cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012,  12:35 PM

Harry,

Disagree on  the traffic/bike issue.  The island has a  pervasive
network of bike trails.   The only  limitation is the strength of one's
legs.

-
On  moorings, yes there are lots available, but they're  expensive
compared to laying down your own anchor.

I  know lots of people are uncomfortable anchoring, but the more  you do
it, the more you'll swear by it as your preferred  method of mooring.
(Having good ground tackle, a sweet bow  roller, and kickass windlass
makes this much  easier)

Cheers
CK




On 8/28/12,  Harry <hhallgr...@cox.net>  wrote:
> Danny,
> Keep the anchor dry...Vineyard  Haven moorings are always available.
> Traffic
>  is tough on bikes...1, 3 or 7 day bus passes are cheap.   Make sure you 
see
> the whole island...lots of  variety.
>
> Harry
> MIRAGE
>  Northeast 39
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
> On  Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
> Sent:  Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:08 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week
>
> I  bought a windlass and an autopilot early this spring and never  got 
around
> to installing them...it is killing to know  thw warranty on both are just
> running out with no  use...
>
> Thanks for the advice!  For some  reason the admiral is not keen on the
> whole
>  cuttyhunk thing...she heard some people at the marina  complaining about
> them
> charging $30 for a  mooring for a couple hours just to go get ice cream  
and
> now she just want to get to MV.
>
>  I'll get to cuttyhunk though.  I think we'll do a weekend  there later.
>
> I saw a couple with those folding  bikes from west marine.  They said they
> loved and  they only cost $200 each on sale...33' of boat is getting  
tight
> pretty quick...LOL
>
>  Danny
>
>
> ---------- Original Message  ----------
> From: Colin Kilgour <charliekilo...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re:  Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week
> Date:  Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:58:59 -0400
>
> Mine's 66lbs  (Bruce) and I've pulled it up by hand in shallow water
>  (20 feet or less), but only because the windlass solenoid had  pooched
> on me.  For normal use though, you really  need a windlass with a hook
> that big.
>
>  --
> As for MV and environs anchorages - Edgartown hates  it when you
> anchor, but if you've got a good dinghy  (or don't mind a long ride)
> you can go up beyond the  mooring field and anchor there. It's a
> fabulous  protected anchorage, but the harbormaster will sometimes  tell
> you that you can't anchor there.  (Could  have something to do with him
> getting paid to rent  mooring balls.)
>
> You can also anchor outside  the harbor, but if there's any chance of
> north in the  wind I wouldn't do it.  (Disclosure: That's the  only
> place, in zillions of nights at anchor, where  Bojangles has dragged -
> because I stupidly trusted the  harbormaster's weather forecast rather
> than consulting  it myself)
>
> We prefer Vineyard Haven, where  there's lots of room to anchor
> (outside the  breakwater, but still quite sheltered) and it's not  quite
> so touristy.   My son's also a  Black Dog fanatic, so VH is a mecca for
>  him.
>
> The beaches on the Vineyard are great,  but you need transportation to
> get  there.   If you have bikes, you'll get good use  out of them on MV.
>  If not, renting bikes is  strongly recommended.  Also, the bus service
>  around the island is also good.
>
> Cuttyhunk is  certainly a good stop, too, on the way there.  You  can
> buy fresh stripers on the dock there if you've  been unsuccessful with
> your trolling.  (Don't ask  me how I know this)
>
> Have a great  trip...
>
> Cheers
>  Colin
>
>
> On 8/28/12, djhaug...@juno.com <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
>> 65  lbs??!!  deeeuuummmnnnn...thats a heavy  anchor!
>>
>> Can yoiu pull that up by  hand.
>>
>> Is it possible to use float and  ring to pull up your anchor on a
>>  sailboat,
>> or do you need more speed for that to  work?
>>
>> Danny
>>
>>  ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From:  Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
>> To:  "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>  Subject: Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next  week
>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 00:28:31  +0000
>>
>> On of the better books about  anchors and anchoring is written by Earl
>  Hinz;
>> "The Complete Book of Anchoring and  Mooring".  Great winter reading.
>>
>>  I have used several of his techniques over the years with  great 
success.
>> That and 90' of chain and a 65lb  CQR.  It is rare I need to switch 
anchor
>>  types here in the PNW.
>>
>>  Martin
>> Calypso
>> 1971 C&C  43
>> Seattle
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>> From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>>  [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
>> On  Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
>>  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:00 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject:  Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next  week
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>>  I'm always looking for tips!  I read alot about the  anchor and I know 
it
> can
>> be a heated  discussion...but it seemed to rate well from all I read and 
 I
>> got one a bit big.  Well, it says from  36-40 footer.
>>
>> I don't plan to do too  much anchoring the first time out.  It is kind of
>  an
>> off week with the kiddies all going back to  school so, we're planning on
>> paying for moorings  this time out.
>>
>>  Danny
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original  Message ----------
>> From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
>> To:  "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>  Subject: Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next  week
>> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:56:08  +0000
>>
>> Danny,
>>
>> I  saw several responses regarding the charts but none about your  anchor
>> choice.
>>
>> Do you have  any questions about the best anchoring set-ups and
>>  strategies,
>> especially for that cruising  area?
>>
>> Martin
>>  Calypso
>> 1971 C&C 43
>>  Seattle
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>> From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>>  [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
>> On  Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
>>  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:53 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject:  Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next  week
>>
>> Hello  all,
>>
>> It seems strange that I'm  preparing for a cruise while other are
>>  hunkering
>> down for a big blow.  Best of Luck  to you all in Issac's path!
>>
>> I've  finally got Lolita out and sailing on Sunday.  Things  went very 
well
>> (with the exception of a temp alarm  going off falsely...)  The A4 runs
>>  beautifully, we didn't have a a lot of wind but I managed to  get about 
5
>> knots out of her at points but I have  to say, she moved along a 2 knots
>> in
>>  very little wind.  It was a good day for the initial sail  and great to 
be
>> out of the  marina!!!
>>
>> I'm also having a little  trouble finding charts of this area.  There  is
>> Narragansett bay to cuttyhunk to block island  but I'm going to be a bit
> east
>> of  that.  I'm looking for Buzzards bay, Elizabeth Islands,  Martha's
> vineyard
>> and Nantucket (I once  knew a man from there...), Any one know if there  
is
>> book that covers all  that?
>>
>> So, we're planning to head out  to Martha's vineyard on Saturday for a
>  week!
>> I just picked up a new Rocna 33# galvanized  anchor from defender for
>> $299.99.  I found  this to be a great price and I'm not finding any
>  negative
>> feedback from this anchor.  It's  funny as the info I am finding from a
>>  few
>> years ago indicated the Rocna was pretty  expensive and people were going
>> with a  Manson.  Which is a very similar design but was supposed  to be
> quite
>> a bit cheaper.  Turns out  I'm getting the Rocna for about $50 less than
>  the
>> Manson.
>>
>> Anyway, I just  wanted to share something other than working on the  boat
>> questions...   LOL
>>
>> Danny
>>  Lolita
>> Viking 33
>> Buzzards  Bay
>>
>>
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