"fly" is my way of saying, "...it is hanging from the bow"


--- On Wed, 8/29/12, honeys...@aol.com <honeys...@aol.com> wrote:

From: honeys...@aol.com <honeys...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List (now anchoring/windlass)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012, 4:37 PM



 
 

Richard
 
1 question. How do you "fly" an anchor? Curious minds want to know. 
LOL
 
Jack Fitzgeald
C&C 39TM

In a message dated 8/29/2012 4:25:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
sailind...@yahoo.com writes:

  
    
    
      Greetings,

I admit I am completely ignorant when 
        it comes to windlasses. INDIGO (1978 36-footer) has a double bow 
roller, 
        but we only fly a single anchor. We carry a Danforth anchor on 33 feet 
        of chain to braided rope rode. Like a schlub, I just set it and pull it 
        up by hand. 

My questions:
Would a windlass be a welcome 
        addition to our anchoring arsenal? 
What about the chain/rope 
        connection? 
Can a windlass accommodate two anchors on the bow 
        roller?
Brand/model recommendation(s)? (We are partial to Lewmar for 
        our winches)
What else do I need to consider?

Thank 
        you,
Richard

--- On Wed, 8/29/12, Richard Walter 
        <sailind...@yahoo.com> wrote:

        
From: 
          Richard Walter <sailind...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List 
          Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week (now anchoring)
To: 
          cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012, 3:54 
          PM


          
          
            
            
              I agree with Colin, I have anchored comfortably 
                at Vineyard Haven (and other places). I agree too that 
anchoring 
                is the way to go. When I anchor, I feel smarter and more 
                sailor-ly. Heck, I paid for the anchor, chain, and rode, I'm 
                gonna use it. Also, every night anchoring saves us enough $$ 
for 
                another dinner ashore!

Richard

--- On Wed, 
                8/29/12, Colin Kilgour 
                <charliekilo...@gmail.com> wrote:

                
From: 
                  Colin Kilgour <charliekilo...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 
                  Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week
To: 
                  cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2012, 
                  12:35 PM


                  Harry,

Disagree on 
                  the traffic/bike issue.  The island has a 
                  pervasive
network of bike trails.   The only 
                  limitation is the strength of one's
legs.

-
On 
                  moorings, yes there are lots available, but they're 
                  expensive
compared to laying down your own anchor.

I 
                  know lots of people are uncomfortable anchoring, but the more 
                  you do
it, the more you'll swear by it as your preferred 
                  method of mooring.
(Having good ground tackle, a sweet bow 
                  roller, and kickass windlass
makes this much 
                  easier)

Cheers
CK




On 8/28/12, 
                  Harry <hhallgr...@cox.net> 
                  wrote:
> Danny,
> Keep the anchor dry...Vineyard 
                  Haven moorings are always available.
> Traffic
> 
                  is tough on bikes...1, 3 or 7 day bus passes are cheap.  
                  Make sure you see
> the whole island...lots of 
                  variety.
>
> Harry
> MIRAGE
> 
                  Northeast 39
>
> -----Original 
                  Message-----
> From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
> On 
                  Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
> Sent: 
                  Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:08 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: 
                  Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week
>
> I 
                  bought a windlass and an autopilot early this spring and 
never 
                  got around
> to installing them...it is killing to know 
                  thw warranty on both are just
> running out with no 
                  use...
>
> Thanks for the advice!  For some 
                  reason the admiral is not keen on the
> whole
> 
                  cuttyhunk thing...she heard some people at the marina 
                  complaining about
> them
> charging $30 for a 
                  mooring for a couple hours just to go get ice cream 
                  and
> now she just want to get to MV.
>
> 
                  I'll get to cuttyhunk though.  I think we'll do a weekend 
                  there later.
>
> I saw a couple with those folding 
                  bikes from west marine.  They said they
> loved and 
                  they only cost $200 each on sale...33' of boat is getting 
                  tight
> pretty quick...LOL
>
> 
                  Danny
>
>
> ---------- Original Message 
                  ----------
> From: Colin Kilgour <charliekilo...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: 
                  Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next week
> Date: 
                  Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:58:59 -0400
>
> Mine's 66lbs 
                  (Bruce) and I've pulled it up by hand in shallow water
> 
                  (20 feet or less), but only because the windlass solenoid had 
                  pooched
> on me.  For normal use though, you really 
                  need a windlass with a hook
> that big.
>
> 
                  --
> As for MV and environs anchorages - Edgartown hates 
                  it when you
> anchor, but if you've got a good dinghy 
                  (or don't mind a long ride)
> you can go up beyond the 
                  mooring field and anchor there. It's a
> fabulous 
                  protected anchorage, but the harbormaster will sometimes 
                  tell
> you that you can't anchor there.  (Could 
                  have something to do with him
> getting paid to rent 
                  mooring balls.)
>
> You can also anchor outside 
                  the harbor, but if there's any chance of
> north in the 
                  wind I wouldn't do it.  (Disclosure: That's the 
                  only
> place, in zillions of nights at anchor, where 
                  Bojangles has dragged -
> because I stupidly trusted the 
                  harbormaster's weather forecast rather
> than consulting 
                  it myself)
>
> We prefer Vineyard Haven, where 
                  there's lots of room to anchor
> (outside the 
                  breakwater, but still quite sheltered) and it's not 
                  quite
> so touristy.   My son's also a 
                  Black Dog fanatic, so VH is a mecca for
> 
                  him.
>
> The beaches on the Vineyard are great, 
                  but you need transportation to
> get 
                  there.   If you have bikes, you'll get good use 
                  out of them on MV.
>  If not, renting bikes is 
                  strongly recommended.  Also, the bus service
> 
                  around the island is also good.
>
> Cuttyhunk is 
                  certainly a good stop, too, on the way there.  You 
                  can
> buy fresh stripers on the dock there if you've 
                  been unsuccessful with
> your trolling.  (Don't ask 
                  me how I know this)
>
> Have a great 
                  trip...
>
> Cheers
> 
                  Colin
>
>
> On 8/28/12, djhaug...@juno.com <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
>> 65 
                  lbs??!!  deeeuuummmnnnn...thats a heavy 
                  anchor!
>>
>> Can yoiu pull that up by 
                  hand.
>>
>> Is it possible to use float and 
                  ring to pull up your anchor on a
>> 
                  sailboat,
>> or do you need more speed for that to 
                  work?
>>
>> Danny
>>
>> 
                  ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: 
                  Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
>> To: 
                  "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> 
                  Subject: Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next 
                  week
>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 00:28:31 
                  +0000
>>
>> On of the better books about 
                  anchors and anchoring is written by Earl
> 
                  Hinz;
>> "The Complete Book of Anchoring and 
                  Mooring".  Great winter reading.
>>
>> 
                  I have used several of his techniques over the years with 
                  great success.
>> That and 90' of chain and a 65lb 
                  CQR.  It is rare I need to switch anchor
>> 
                  types here in the PNW.
>>
>> 
                  Martin
>> Calypso
>> 1971 C&C 
                  43
>> Seattle
>>
>> -----Original 
                  Message-----
>> From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> 
                  [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
>> On 
                  Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
>> 
                  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:00 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: 
                  Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next 
                  week
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>> 
                  I'm always looking for tips!  I read alot about the 
                  anchor and I know it
> can
>> be a heated 
                  discussion...but it seemed to rate well from all I read and 
                  I
>> got one a bit big.  Well, it says from 
                  36-40 footer.
>>
>> I don't plan to do too 
                  much anchoring the first time out.  It is kind of
> 
                  an
>> off week with the kiddies all going back to 
                  school so, we're planning on
>> paying for moorings 
                  this time out.
>>
>> 
                  Danny
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original 
                  Message ----------
>> From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
>> To: 
                  "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> 
                  Subject: Re: Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next 
                  week
>> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:56:08 
                  +0000
>>
>> Danny,
>>
>> I 
                  saw several responses regarding the charts but none about 
your 
                  anchor
>> choice.
>>
>> Do you have 
                  any questions about the best anchoring set-ups and
>> 
                  strategies,
>> especially for that cruising 
                  area?
>>
>> Martin
>> 
                  Calypso
>> 1971 C&C 43
>> 
                  Seattle
>>
>> -----Original 
                  Message-----
>> From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> 
                  [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
>> On 
                  Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
>> 
                  Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:53 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: 
                  Stus-List Martha's Vineyard Cruise next 
                  week
>>
>> Hello 
                  all,
>>
>> It seems strange that I'm 
                  preparing for a cruise while other are
>> 
                  hunkering
>> down for a big blow.  Best of Luck 
                  to you all in Issac's path!
>>
>> I've 
                  finally got Lolita out and sailing on Sunday.  Things 
                  went very well
>> (with the exception of a temp alarm 
                  going off falsely...)  The A4 runs
>> 
                  beautifully, we didn't have a a lot of wind but I managed to 
                  get about 5
>> knots out of her at points but I have 
                  to say, she moved along a 2 knots
>> in
>> 
                  very little wind.  It was a good day for the initial sail 
                  and great to be
>> out of the 
                  marina!!!
>>
>> I'm also having a little 
                  trouble finding charts of this area.  There 
                  is
>> Narragansett bay to cuttyhunk to block island 
                  but I'm going to be a bit
> east
>> of 
                  that.  I'm looking for Buzzards bay, Elizabeth Islands, 
                  Martha's
> vineyard
>> and Nantucket (I once 
                  knew a man from there...), Any one know if there 
                  is
>> book that covers all 
                  that?
>>
>> So, we're planning to head out 
                  to Martha's vineyard on Saturday for a
> 
                  week!
>> I just picked up a new Rocna 33# galvanized 
                  anchor from defender for
>> $299.99.  I found 
                  this to be a great price and I'm not finding any
> 
                  negative
>> feedback from this anchor.  It's 
                  funny as the info I am finding from a
>> 
                  few
>> years ago indicated the Rocna was pretty 
                  expensive and people were going
>> with a 
                  Manson.  Which is a very similar design but was supposed 
                  to be
> quite
>> a bit cheaper.  Turns out 
                  I'm getting the Rocna for about $50 less than
> 
                  the
>> Manson.
>>
>> Anyway, I just 
                  wanted to share something other than working on the 
                  boat
>> questions...  
                  LOL
>>
>> Danny
>> 
                  Lolita
>> Viking 33
>> Buzzards 
                  Bay
>>
>>
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